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Berbers are a lot whiter looking than Lebanese people yet Lebanon plots closer to Europe. The Berbers of Al Andaluz were White. I'm from Extremadura Spain and the Berbers were White and not Arabs before they owned slaves. They weren't Semites like Jews and Arabs.
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The Moors of Al Andaluz were White and not Arabs. I can show more pics
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MUH SKIN COLOR!!!
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>>18057687
Arabs are dark. They look like Indians. Berbers are White in skin just like Spain. Jews can have light skin but their face features are Semite and ugly not aesthetic
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The current Moroccans are not like the Moors of Al Andaluz. They got mixed up with Arabs and Blacks. The Moors were White.
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>>18057679
>Berbers are a lot whiter looking than Lebanese people yet Lebanon plots closer to Europe.
stop trolling, your shit threads got banned already multiple times, berbers are brown as fuck

>The Berbers of Al Andaluz were White
al andalus was a mutt kingdom, not "berber"

> I'm from Extremadura Spain and the Berbers were White and not Arabs before they owned slaves. They weren't Semites like Jews and Arabs.
berbers are and were brown as fuck
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>>18057809
Lmao kabyle look like that? They are literally quadroonish looking
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>>18057679
the girl in the middle is a pakistani, pca plots are in line with how berber look like actually
>>18057693
you berbers look as brown as arabs
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>>18057679
>>18057683
the moors of al andalus were barely berbers, they were a three way mix of middle easterners, north africans and europeans
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>>18057809
I get 11% Berber on illustrative. The Moors were Berbers but back then Berbers were White. Current Berbers are brown because Arabs and Blacks mixed with them when they got expelled from Spain.
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>>18057828
They are brown now because Arabs and Blacks mixed w/ them.
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>>18057894
>I get 11% Berber
i'm sorry to hear that
>The Moors were Berbers but back then Berbers were White. Current Berbers are brown because Arabs and Blacks mixed with them when they got expelled from Spain.
the moors in iberia were mutts, berbers back then were brown, current berbers are brown because they largely descend from berbers
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>>18057901
no, they were brown yesterday too, berbers are as brown as arabs, andalsians are irrelevant and were mixed triracials with middle eastern, berber and european ancestry, in the case of nobles a vandal component too
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The old woman with the child is Romanian, and the blonde girl is Kalash. Why do Berbers like to claim other ethnicities?
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>>18057901
They were 6 times closer genetically to literally sub-Saharan Africans than to Nordics or even to French.
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>>18057906
Lately, I've seen many Iberians claiming al-Andalus and claim that berbers were whites. They don't realize that their entire country was formed from the expulsion. If they had continued, they'd be browner than Canarians.
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>>18057928
berbers and other northwest africans look the exact same regardless of identification, they were always brown

all paintings are artistic depictions, they're not made by researchers or scientists or whatnot, they're not hard proof, the artist does what he wants, but anyway al andalus was a mixed civilization, and they mostly didn't identify as berber and mostly spoke arabic so it's simply incorrect to call them berbers
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>>18057932
Basically, if la limpieza de sangre hadn't occurred, would the Iberians be like the canarians or even less European?
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>>18057928
without the reconquista, modern iberians would be literally moroccans or algerians genetically
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I've seen those Iberians who call the Nordic people Mongoloid, but say the Berbers were Caucasoid. Luckily, there are some intelligent people, like picrelated.
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>>18057937
if the reconquista happened but "limpieza de sangre" south and west iberians would have stabilized around something inbetween a canarian-maltese profile due to both high middle eastern and north african ancestry
if the reconquista didn't happen at all modern west and south iberians would resemble nafris while northeast iberians would resemble canarian
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>>18057938
>>18057948
In the Canary Islands, a completely non-European phenotype regularly occurs, with only 1/4 nafri blood. Then they say the Berbers were completely "Caucasoid."
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>>18057702
Spain is an enemy of Al-Andalus. A Moor cannot be white.
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>>18057951
He looks White
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>>18057955
Christianity and Islam are both from Jews.
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>>18057962
In Brazil
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>>18057968
The difference is that Christianity was built in Europe.
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>>18057951
they're easily the darkest iberians
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>>18057679
like 0% of berbers look white
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>>18057894
The purest Berber group is in Egypt and they are literally just black people.
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>>18058007
nah, the purest berber group is in south morocco, they're still brown as fuck tho
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>>18058009
Why do you think they're the purest?
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>>18058012
they're the most similar to ancient berbers >>18057932 (and have the largest percentage of mesolithic north african ancestry)
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>>18058017
Oh I see.
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>>18057693
Both Ashkenazi and Sephardic Jews are a thousand times whiter than the Berber quadroons.
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>>18058032
Berbers make jews look aryans hyperboreans. Picrelated sephardics.
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>>18058032
these are coastal berbers, lol, the purer inland berbers are browner
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>>18058032
The only ones who do not have considerable Negroid blood in North Africa are Sephardics.
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>>18058037
>Muh berbers wuz pure caucasoid
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>>18057942
Berbers were light nonwhite Caucasoids like Hasan Piker
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>>18057687
>MUH HAIR AMOUNT
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>>18058129
IA berbers were definitely somewhat more exotic than hasan
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>cue the cope and seethe
kek
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>>18058211
not cope, average kabylian looks like picrel factually speaking
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One is italian
One is berber

Can /his/ tell which is which?
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>>18057918
>saaaar this is not a kabyle dress saaar. this is pakistan saaar.
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>>18058217
who knows, but the large majority of berbers look more exotic than the guy on the left
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>>18057828
poor girl, used as propaganda by crazy self hating berbers
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>>18058193
original berbers
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>>18058220
A literal brown horde
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>>18057679
>The Berbers of Al Andaluz were White.
Al Andalus was an Arabized Phoenician kingdom. Berbers did not contribute anything of worth to this kingdom.

>I'm from Extremadura Spain
Abdu pls
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>>18058006
>like 0% of berbers look white
Yes, all berbers look brown. It is that simplistic saar.
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>>18058266
those are albanians
https://www.kinderadoptieplan.nl/2018/02/09/ze-zien-het-gedrag-van-anderen/albanie-drie-meisjes-2/

coastal berber kabyle kids look like this
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>>18057679
Why is it always children in these types of pics? Obviously children are gonna have lighter coloring than the rest of the population.
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>>18058273
Whiter than European kids.
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>>18058273
>saar is pakistan
>saar is albania
saar it's coping time
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>>18058266
https://www.humanium.org/en/albania/?utm_medium=organic&utm_source=yasmartcamera
albanians
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>>18058342
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>>18058342
>>18057828
berbers are really pathetic
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>bb-but saaar, these are europeans saaar
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>>18058354
>these are europeans
clearly not, they look as brown as indians
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>>18058358
Whiter than Donnarummas
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>>18057679
Modern Mahgrebis are 1/3 Black and 2/3 White due to a trans-Saharan slave trade that pre-dates the Romans. It's why they look so similar to Andrew Tate, but distinct from Arabs and South Euros
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>>18058362
>whiter than a shitskin
okay?

also what's the point of extreme cherrypicking like this? there are 10000 pictures of brown as fuck berbers for every cherrypicked berber of yours, i'm still unsure you're an actual berber, you're likely a troll, too dumb to be serious, likely OP (that is also obviously not spanish) bumping his own thread by larping as a 20 iq berber
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>>18058362
also, and i noticed this now, Fakhreddine Ben Youssef, the guy you posted, is a tunisian that does not even identify as berber, so i assume nafris that don't identify as berbers like picrel are also fine to use right?
smells more and more like a troll
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>>18058380
They are obviously Arab judging by their phenotype so no.
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>>18058380
>saaar he's not berber saaaar
I wonder when the copes end. I guess these are larpers then.
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>>18058375
He has negroid facial features. Donnarumma's brother looks much whiter.
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>>18058398
>Black hair
>huge jewish nose
He looks significantly browner. Could pass as a local in Lebanon.
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>>18058389
he's not berber, just nafri, which is fine by me, means i can use the nafris that identify as arabs
no berber would call that guy berber or use it as an example of berbers, i've spoken with too many berbers and i know how they operate, but you know this already, since you're obviously trolling and trying to keep your shit bait thread in first page

>>18058385
>They are obviously Arab judging by their phenotype so no.
they are berbers judging by their phenotype and genetics, troll
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>>18058398
this comment is also made by the troll, since he noticed i have no interest in this "donnarumma" shitskin dude
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>>18058407
And Youssef looks like a mulatto with red hair. I'm sure you can find those in Brazilian favelas too.
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>>18058408
I noticed that too, that's why I mostly stopped replying to him, he did the same in the previous thread when he denied the Algeria ia sample was berber

Nafris have largely been bullied out of /his/ after their copes were debunked
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>>18058423
>Nafris have largely been bullied out of /his/ after their copes were debunked
yes he's likely trolling
>I noticed that too, that's why I mostly stopped replying to him, he did the same in the previous thread when he denied the Algeria ia sample was berber
the kenchela sample destroyed the entire berber identity lmao
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>>18058415
He looks like a Nordic man and would stand out due to his whiteness in Brazil. Donnarumma would fit well in a favela tho, as would most Italians and Arabs on account of their same negroid features.
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>>18058408
Yes you can cope that he's froum Saudi Arabia, I don't care. I know it must be rough to be the brownest on your continent when berbers are whitest on theirs. Mind broken. Also whiter than you, lol.
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>>18058434
He's not even saudi tho, just a buck broken moroccan arab-haratin mongrel.
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>>18058434
>Yes you can cope that he's froum Saudi Arabia, I don't care.
he's a nafri therefore mostly berber even if he identifies as "arab", just like these guys >>18058380 or pic rela are berberlattos and brown because of their berberlatto genes, but berberlattos understand the slipperyslope of accepting typical nafris as berbers in argument, and also in general they wouldn't call someone that doesn't identity as berber a berber anyway, they would say nafris, you're likely trolling

> know it must be rough to be the brownest on your continent when berbers are whitest on theirs. Mind broken. Also whiter than you, lol.
i'm not the "brownest of my continent", those are southern european half menaoids, as for berbers, well it's not hard to be browner than negros i guess
>Also whiter than you, lol.
berbers are brown as fuck
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>>18058445
Berbers look brown
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>>18058445
>moroccan arab-haratin mongrel.
they're impossible to distinguish from berbers
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>>18058448
if only they were browner, they would resemble their chleuh-like berber ancestors more
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>>18058426
How did this sample destroy berber identity?
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>>18058482
90% of berbercels online are coastal, this is devastating for them, it's like when the early latins turned out to be catalan-like, italians coped a lot they didn't start saying "well they were med brothers from iberia", there's no unity among berbers
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this very late neolithic tunisian sample likely represents the earliest formation of the berber profile, this is likely what original berbers were like
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>>18058497
ancient berbers were a bunch of brown africans, we all know this, what we need to know is why they weren't genocided by the french
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>>18058512
Other European powers weakened France
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>>18058497
This sample is not Berber. Just some Somali nigger.

tunisia-I22852
Territory: Tunisia - Hergla
Molecular Sex: M
Datation: 4035-3804 calBCE (5130±25 BP, PSUAMS-9396)
Skin: N/A
Hair: N/A
Eye: N/A
>Predicted Y-DNA: T1a1a
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>>18058497
>>18058524
Same goes for I18193 posted here >>18058231, it's some somali nigg.

-I18193
Territory: Spain
Molecular Sex: M
Datation: BC_?
Skin: N/A
Hair: N/A
Eye: N/A
>Predicted Y-DNA: T1a1a
Predicted mtDNA: U5b1e
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>>18058524
berbers absorbed levant_c ancestry (that were mostly t), so not 100% of berbers had e-m81, but autosomally he likely represents the early stages of the berber autosomal profile
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>>18058535
Even i15940 carry an Ethiopian haplogroup. None of them are Berbers, just some nigger slaves you cherrypicked.

italy_sardinia_n_oafrica:i15940.ag-I15940
Territory: Italy - Anghelu Ruju (Sardinia, Sassari province)
Molecular Sex: M
Datation: 2397-2146 calBCE (3815±25 BP, PSUAMS-6697)
Skin: Mixed Dark/Dark to Black
Hair: Black
Eye: Brown
>Predicted Y-DNA: E1b1b1a
Predicted mtDNA: M1a1b1
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>>18058524
internal nafri variation, this >>18058231 sardinian outlier is E1b and >>18057932 i24206 is E too

e-m81 was likely still confined to the saharan deserts
none of the punic samples has E-m81 curiously
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>>18058540
all of them are berbers autosomally, this is undeniable, e-m81 likely was still in the saharan deserts where it belongs

mauritanians have more e-m81 than average moroccans or algerians lol
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>>18058542
> no E-M81 in punics
The earliest E-M81 are found among Pheonicians. LMAO.

Poor little haratin nigger.
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>>18058545
>meme amateur chart
my chart is from the study, there's literally not a single sample with e-m81, there's only 1 sample that has e-L19, I21971, but it develops into e-z21068, that is a different branch from e-m81 and mutually exclusive
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>>18058542
>>18058543
>saharan deserts
Which was T like the rest Nafrica. Nice self own.
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>>18058545
>phoenicians
>400 AD
hilarious but holy shit you gotta be joseph, since when are you pro berber?
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>>18058551
>Which was T like the rest Nafrica.
what do you mean? T in iron age berbers is from levantine ancestry, we have multiple studies confirming natufian/levant_ppnb ancestry arriving in neolithic northwest africa
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e-m81 is not phoenician, it's from saharan mongrels in the desert, saharawiniggas and reguibate algerians from the extreme southwest of algeria are 80%+ e-m81
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>>18058553
Since this guy has been attacking my haplogroup.

>>18058555
T was already present in Neolithic North Africa. Your entire falls apart, nigga.

>natufian/levant_ppnb
All E. Not T.
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>>18058557
Your entire theory falls apart, nigga.*

>>18058556
E-M81 is Phoenician as shown by the oldest E-M81 himself and the distribution of its basal clades in the Levant.

It's impressive how the Sahara went from 100% T during the Neolithic/Iron Age to 80% E-M81 today. Phoenicians sure did a number of these T bulbheads.
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>>18058557
T was present in neolithic north africa BECAUSE of levantine neolithic migrations
levant_late neolithic had a ton ton of T

>>18058556
>kabyle are 47% e-m81, less than southern algerian mozabites and reguibats
lol
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>>18058569
>oldest E-M81
I19190 is too low quality and the study doesn't assign any haplo to it >>18058542, those T are from levantines
>>18058557
>Since this guy has been attacking my haplogroup.
i will not mention e-m81 if you stop defending berbergroids
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>>18058571
The Levantine genetic marker is E. Levantine ancestry is exclusively associated with this haplogroup. That one T is an outlier originating from elsewhere, possibly from Africa, where many T lineages have been identified.

As for the occurrence of T among Berber populations, it is a of conquering and assimilating the local North Africans, who were pred to entirely T.

>kabyle are 47% e-m81, less than southern algerian mozabites and reguibats
Going from 100% T to 47% E-M81 is still a win no matter how "little" the increase. Besides E-M81 peaks in Tunisia (Carthage) at 100% frequency.
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>>18058529
Funny how AI still detects this Nafrigroid as a regular nafri. He would look like a typical Brazilian without the light pigmentation.
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>>18058593
Of course he's berber, why are you surprised? Still in the denial stage Gianluigi?
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>>18058587
>The Levantine genetic marker is E.
in the mesolithic yes, but ppnb carried t1a also, africans didn't, ppnbs migrated to neolithic north africa therefore ppnbs carried t with them to north africa

>As for the occurrence of T among Berber populations, it is a of conquering and assimilating the local North Africans, who were pred to entirely T.
so are you pro berbers or against berbers? you're switching sides constantly

are saharawis phoenicians? are mozabites phoenicians? are reguibatians from southern algeria phoenicians?
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>>18058596
>>18058593
troll replying to himself again, no one gives a shit about this nafri and about donnarumma the shitskins begone
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>>18058596
You said he looks Nordic. He doesn't. Second closest ethnicity is Levantine, another African-adjacent population via negroid Natufian genes.
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>>18058587
you didn't reply to my comment yet >>18058574 i frankly don't give a shit about e-m81, i can even not mentioned it at all if you stop defending berbergroids
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>>18058602
I didn't, since that wasn't me. But I can understand the confusion since there are no ids here. He looks like a light berber because he is one. We don't claim no nordic, no arap, no nothing. North Africa. That's it.
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>>18058605
not him but 99% of berbers are brown, he's an arabized berbers just like these coastal algerians from algiers
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>>18058605
>We don't claim no nordic, no arap, no nothing
no one called you arab or nordic, people are calling you brown, and that's exactly what you are, just stop coping and posting these cherrypicked pictures, you are brown as shit
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>>18058613
Gianluigi please. I wasn't talking to you. Go back to the coping bench.
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>>18058619
italians are shitskin half menas, here we go again with the random accusations
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>>18058619
Gianlugi sounds like a spic name, my point still stands, just accept that you're brown
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>>18058610
coastal algerians are some of the brownest people on earth
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>>18058587
>The Levantine genetic marker is E. Levantine ancestry is exclusively associated with this haplogroup. That one T is an outlier originating from elsewhere, possibly from Africa, where many T lineages have been identified.
>As for the occurrence of T among Berber populations, it is a of conquering and assimilating the local North Africans, who were pred to entirely T.
are you and this >>18058531 >>18058540 the same poster?
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>>18057679
andalusians were arabs that subjugated berbers and europeans
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>>18058598
>but ppnb carried t1a also
That one T carrier was an outlier and not representative of Neolithic Levantines who carried predominantly E.

By Levantine migrants, all these studies on prehistoric NA, refer to actual Levantines who brought E1b to NA like Taforalt, IAM and Nuerat.

>so are you pro berbers or against berbers?
I am pro-Berber in the same way that you are anti-Berber, since you conflate M81 with them and attack both indiscriminately, I conflate it with them and defend both indiscriminately.

>are saharawis phoenicians? are mozabites phoenicians? are reguibatians from southern algeria phoenicians?
All are rapebabies of Phoenician men and Libyan women yes. I disagree with your portraying of Ancient Berbers as Saharawi-like tho, some were Northern while others weren't.
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>>18057968
>Christianity and Islam are both from Jews.
Christianity is from jews and christians worship a dead jew, but islam is not, islam was created by arabs, and the prophet was not a jew
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>>18058706
>That one T carrier was an outlier and not representative of Neolithic Levantines who carried predominantly E.
that wouldn't change the fact that T was carried to north africa by levantines
>I am pro-Berber in the same way that you are anti-Berber, since you conflate M81 with them and attack both indiscriminately, I conflate it with them and defend both indiscriminately.
but your statements are contradictory, you say that I18193 and i15940 can't be berber because they don't have E-M81, but later you say that E-M81 is a phoenician marker from the levant and T is from africa
>I disagree with your portraying of Ancient Berbers as Saharawi-like tho, some were Northern while others weren't.
the ones that aren't are simply mixed with non berbers
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>>18058706
why are southern berbers more e-m81, central berbers something inbetween and northern berbers the least e-m81?
wouldn't it make more sense for northern berbers to be more e-m81 and southern berbers less e-m81 if they were more phoenicians?
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>>18058735
>>18058706
another study with southern berbers from the Azgour Valley having more than 80% e-m81
>Total DNA was extracted from blood or buccal swabs of 195 unrelated males from three populations: 68 from Pedroches Valley, a region located in the northwest portion of Cordoba province (Andalusia, Spain) that presents evidences of Berber settlements during the Islamic occupation; 94 from a representative Andalusian sample (Spain), considered for comparative purposes; and 33 from different hamlets in Azgour Valley from the Amizmiz region (Marrakech, Morocco), which represents a typically Moroccan Berber population. For all participants, appropriate informed consent and information about the geographical origin of their four grandparents was obtained
why would these southern people have such high percentages of e-m81? they have 2 times the amount of e-m81 that kabyle have, did phoenicians love saharan pussy?
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>>18058728
>>18058735
>but your statements are contradictory, you say that I18193 and i15940 can't be berber because they don't have E-M81, but later you say that E-M81 is a phoenician marker from the levant and T is from africa
It's not contradictory, because I was careful to distinguish between the Ancient Berbers, who carried haplogroup T and have been present in North Africa since at least the Neolithic, and the Modern Berbers, who are the byproducts of Phoenician groups like I19190 and I21971 replacing Ancient Berbers.

>wouldn't it make more sense for northern berbers to be more e-m81 and southern berbers less e-m81 if they were more phoenicians?
The point you raised is a non-issue, since it peaks in Tunisia, which was the most intensively colonized by the Phoenicians, rather than in Morocco.

But if I were to hazard a guess, southern Morocco is mostly plains and desert, making it easier to replace its population, unlike northern Morocco, which is mountainous.
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>>18058766
>It's not contradictory, because I was careful to distinguish between the Ancient Berbers, who carried haplogroup T and have been present in North Africa since at least the Neolithic, and the Modern Berbers, who are the byproducts of Phoenician groups like I19190 and I21971 replacing Ancient Berbers.
so I18193 was an ancient berber
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>>18057679
>PCA plots mean nothing
Non whites in north Africa are the result of the original white population race mixing with their imported black slaves from sub saharan regions. That is proved by the genetic analysis.
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>>18058773
Sure, but he carried haplogroup T and was therefore unrelated to modern Berbers and to E-M81. Using him or other such samples to attack either is pointless.
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>>18058784
he was related to modern berbers autosomally, this is what ancient berbers were like, as you said, that was an ancient berber
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>>18058784
>Sure, but he carried haplogroup T and was therefore unrelated to modern Berbers and to E-M81. Using him or other such samples to attack either is pointless.
joseph you told us that your father was an extremely proud arab, he would have spit in your face for even suggesting any connections to berber bums, you're insulting him memory
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>>18057679
Lebanese have less than 10% Subsaharan DNA. They are White adjacent.

Berbers are literally quadroons. They are closer to fucking Ethiopians than to 90% of follow Arabs.
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>>18057693
>>18057679
>I'm from Extremadura Spain
dumb larper, not a single person believed you
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>>18058713
islam was created by semitic jews
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>>18058610
this "algiers" looks like pakistan
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people from mali are 30% e-m81, is this the result of phoenician migrations?
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>>18058798
You are making things up. My father is still alive and comes from the Oulad Saleh tribe which has known Israelite descent and perfectly preserved the racial memory of our E-M81 ancestors.

>>18058798
>he was related to modern berbers autosomally
He was related to Southern Moroccan Berbers but only distantly related to other Berbers such as Tunisian Berbers, Mozabites and Riffans who in turn are more closely related to I24205.
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>>18058925
the sample is less related to northern berbers because these have more foreign non berber ancestry, but he's very related to the berber portion of the autosomal ancestry of northern berbers
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>>18058925
breaking news: joseph is jewish, he's half northern french half moroccan jewish, not even his "moroccan" side is really moroccan
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>>18057679
let's see what the andalusians say about berbers:

>As for hatred and hostility, they are the race, we hate the Berbers and they hate us.
Ibn Rushd

>God has specialised the Jelqa and the Berbers with tyranny and ignorance, and has filled them with aggression and injustice.
Sa'id al-Andalusi

>The Berbers are your offspring, so Eve is divorced, if what they claim is true.
al-Samisir al-Ilbiri

>The Berbers are often characterized by dullness in their minds.
Ibn Khaldun al-Hadhrami
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>>18058944
>jewish
Israelite* which is distinct from Jews

You are much closer to these larpers than I am btw as you both carry haplogroup J & R1a.
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>>18059027
juif means jew tho, a jew with e-m81 is still a jew
>You are much closer to these larpers than I am btw as you both carry haplogroup J & R1a.
only ashk carry r1a tho
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>>18059035
Yes, "Juifs" does mean "Jews," but strictly speaking, Jews originally referred only to the >>>>supposed<<<< descendants of a single Israelite tribe, namely Judah, not the other Israelite tribes. Therefore, this label is incorrect in this context, as Saleh claimed descent from Simeon rather than Judah according to Arab historians.

Moreover, Jewish identity ceased to be purely ethnic or tribal after Alexander Jannaeus forcibly circumcised Edomites and Itureans (Arabs) and integrated them into the Judean population, transforming Jews from an ethnic group into a religious one. Thus, the label is again inaccurate, as no one from this tribe follows Rabbinic Judaism.
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>>18059083
And they also convert:

-Medes
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nahum_the_Mede

-Greeks
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Onkelos

-Italians
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kalonymos_family

-Germans
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bodo_(deacon)

And many other races until their genepool became the mutted slop it is today >>18059027
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This is just your own personal bias over attributing certain phenotypical traits as being white and ignoring less obvious and less visible traits.
Also you're cherry picking examples on google images so I guess I'm the idiot for paying you any attention.
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ok non-shill response, what are they?
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>>18057679
Not really, most NW Africans look either like mixed-race Brazilians or like stereotypical Arabs, while Lebanese lack African traits, looking like darker and more "Eastern" Caucasoids
>>18057683
A lot of them were local converts or heavily mixed
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>>18057679
correct
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>>18058810
Taleb looks whiter than 99% of Berbers.
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>>18059422
lebanese look like jeets
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>>18059437
But it's more common phenotypes that can pass in Europe.
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These "light nafris" are outliers and products of the Punics/Roman Empire/Vandals/Barbary slave trade/French colonialism. Any nafri group looks brown as a whole. Here's Kabyles protesting in France. These are supposedly the lightest nafris.
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don't even reply to the obvious shill
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>>18059451
Several Levantine politicians pass in Europe as Assad's family. But even the Nafri elite looks straight out of a Brazilian favela.
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>>18059548
>These "light nafris" are outliers and products of the Punics/Roman Empire/Vandals/Barbary slave trade/French colonialism. Any nafri group looks brown as a whole.
Biggest cope I ever heard
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>>18059661
Meanwhile
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>>18059674
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>>18059732
No levantine in sight, I agree. Thank you saar.
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>>18059749
I didn't say they were Levantine. I said it's one of the reasons you find the rare light haired/light eyed nafri occasionally.
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>>18059679
Salma is from jewish origin
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>>18057679
>Posts children
Everyone is blonde as a kid, I bet fucking Wesley Snipes was blonde as kid. It means very little.
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>>18059781
>Salma is from jewish origin
>trusts wikipedia
ngmi
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/8/21/behind-mohammed-vis-push-for-a-more-amazigh-morocco
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>>18059661
>>18059679
>>18059732
>>18059749
>>18059781
>>18059791
yeah, you are the troll samefagging and replying to yourself and bumping up your own thread, least natural conversation ever

there are only 4 posters in the thread, joseph, me, another anti berber poster and you OP
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>>18059865
/his/ in a nutshell, might as well kill the board at that point because these faggots don't have a life and sure love spamming their nonsensical bullshit 24/7
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>>18058713
Islam and Christianity are both spinoffs from Judaism



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