>Being of pure love>HatesMake it make sense
>>18062178>tell you a statement of fact, i.e. 'but you must not eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, for when you eat from it you will certainly die'>"uhm akshully saying that was hateful"I don't see the hate in announcing to someone that the consequence of an action results in death. That's like saying 'shooting yourself in the brain results in death', where is the hate?
>>18062204God explicitly says that he hated Esau, you lying RAT.
The original Bible uses the word μισέω, which can mean to reject, to oppose, to set against.
>>18062178>create dogs>decide you hate them
>>18062231>*squeak squeak*
>>18062236>nooo theres is a picture in that hpuse for thst you will burn in enternity
>if you let that ark touch the ground you're DEAD>but if you touch it to stop it from falling over? oh yeah, you're SUPER dead. Enjoy hell for being told by your boss to stand next to this rickety cart. All according to plan...
>>18062178The authors of the bible did not share a single conception of their deity.
i'm not convinced the god of genesis in eden is the same one that talks to abraham
>>18062231>schizo who thinks the OT was originally greekSeek help. שָׂנְאָה נַפְשׁוֹ means "his spirit hates".
>>18062204It is natural for children to disobey their parents. It is part of normal and healthy development. God allowed the serpent to manipulate his children, under his own house and under his own watch, and then punished them instead of stepping in.Now the thing is that this never happened in reality since christianity is part of a larger ancient myth dating back possibly tens or hundreds of thousands of years ago so it was never meant to be literal, its a story.
>>18062178>pickek OP got self-btfo. the wojaktheist makes it 10 times more hilarious
>>18063930nta but both OT and NT were originally Koine Greekthis is not a matter of debate, and never really was
>>18064090The vast majority of the OT is ancient hebrew with a few books writter in aramic. Take your meds.
>>18064082>christianity is part of a larger ancient myth dating back possibly tens or hundreds of thousands of years ago so it was never meant to be literal, its a story.It's only 2300 years old though.
>>18064090And Das Kapital was originally written in German. It's still a jewish book.
>>18064100It was originally written in Greek as the Septuagint cope and seethe juden
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>>18064871Christians literally can't reason
>>18064876You lost. :)
>>18064883Your worthless brain is noted. Christians can't reason.
>>18064604The dead sea scrolls disprove this thats why only low iq protestants still use it
>>18064102>It's only 2300 years old though.lmao
>>18065869Show me any torah/tanakh/septuagint that dates to before the 3rd to 4th century BCE.
>>18064604Meds.
>>18064892>dead sea scrollswhen were they written?oh yeah, after the OT which was originally written in Koine Greek why lie like a jew? are you one of them?pic 100% related, but not in Koine Greek because I want others to understand it
>>18066071No thanks dr. shekelsteinI will keep trusting my lying eyeskvetch harder
>>18062178He hates the sin because it destroys the sinner, dumbassIt's like hating cancer, not the patient.
>>18066541Psalm 11:5
>>18062178>define thing as x>how can it y (opposite of x)God is pure being, creation, not love. That's some misunderstood Christian expression. "God is Love.”
>make it make senseI got you. Take a lump of clay and a lump of wax and sit them out in the hot summer sun.The clay will brittle and harden, thinking "The sun is oppressive!"The wax will soften and relax, thinking "The sun loves and comforts."You see, God hasn't changed His nature. The different states of the human heart are what determines how He affects us.
>>18066207>OT which was originally written in Koine GreekThe Septuagint is indeed the oldest manuscript we have, and the scripture that Jesus Christ and the apostles quote word for word from in the NT. But we know it was commissioned by Ptolmey Philidelphia, Greek Pharoh of Egypt (son of a general under Alexander the Great) to be translated out of the Paleo-Hebrew. Not to be confused with modern block script Hebrew that the corrupted Masoretic Text uses. I think it was divine providence that the whole region was Hellenized and then has the OT and NT written in Greek, the language of trade and commerce that everyone then spoke. It set the stage for the Gospel to flourish throughout Europe. >>18065938You think the Septuagint was written out of thin air? It was translated in the 3rd century, necessarily coming from scripture that predates it by a lot. We don't have the Paleo-Hebrew parchment before it, no, but that means to you the religion began with the Septuagint.
>>180672463rd century BC*
>>18067246>necessarily coming from scripture that predates it by a lot.NTA, but no. There is no textual or archaeological evidence for anything that resembles judaism prior to the Septuagint being recorded.The whole thing is made up 2300 years ago after some jews read Plato.
>>18067265Again, Ptolmey Philidelphia brought 72 Israelites to Alexandria to translate their scripture into Greek (the Septuagint). According to you, some jew just winged it and made up the entire OT on the spot in this moment. Absolutely no one believes that because that's ridiculous.
>>18067585>2+ anons in this thread believe that>Absolutely no one believes that kek Regardless, that's an appeal to the masses fallacy. >jew story from the 3rd century BCEThat's not textual or archaeological evidence of judaism prior the the 3rd century BCE though.
>>18067610What you're suggesting is that religious manuscripts denser than Tolkien that span every genre of literature that would've taken decades to think through and flesh out was compressed into a few months and that it's all made up for...fun? What is Philidelphia making them translate from if nothing is there? That is a greater leap of faith than simply saying we don't have the parchment. It was probably destroyed in 70 AD along with the 2nd Temple.>sorry chud, but if don't have the papers, it never happened Okay then. I find that impossible to reason.
>>18067628>What you're suggesting isNot even slightly.>I find that impossible to reason.I don't know what that means, Pablo, but it sure doesn't look like textual or archaeological evidence of judaism prior the the 3rd century BCE.
>>18067666>666Well, well, well....I rest my case.
>>18062657what makes you believe that?
>>18067687>I rest my caseThat would require you to have one to begin with sweetie.
>>18067687>is told not to divine by his own doctrine>divines anywayReally makes you think.
>>18068113There's not a single e-christian on this board that has read the bible.
>Slavery? Perfectly fine (Numbers 31)>Human trafficking? Perfectly fine (Exodus 21:7-11)>Genocide? Perfectly fine (1 Samuel 15:3)>Capital punishment? Perfectly fine (Genesis 38:24-26)>But you built a statue of me? Unacceptable, this is so evil! Oh my me! You are such a bad person you are going to hell!Why does YHWH tolerate and encourage such vile acts, but can't stand some drawings and statuettes? It reeks of insecurity, totally not a trait of an omnipotent being
Just read Nietzche instead of arguing with christkeks, he destroyed Christianity 150 years ago
Who decided hate and love are mutually exclusive?
>>18068154He's in unspeakable agony right now. Tick tock!
>>18062204you forgot to mention how before that he created a talking snake that he knew it would 100% deceive them (he's omnipotent afterall)
>>18068142>slavery still exists today for 90% of workers, we just call it something different. Slavery is just a fact of the fallen world.>genocide you have to imagine a civilization so wicked that it's completely irredeemable. Child sacrifice, cannibalism, widespread violence. Everyone points out God delivering justice through people like this and then seemingly doesn't care when God directly caused global genocide of literally every person and animal through the flood. It also needs to be understood that these rules are being given to a desert tribe thousands of years ago in an extremely hostile world. Jesus arrives and amends ideas like eye for an eye and divorce, and explains that some of these things were never the will of God. They were condescended to the level of human development to those people at that point in history, whose "hearts we hard."
>>18068451This is the classic "why does bad thing happen if God good" argument. If we weren't allowed to have free will we couldn't choose acts of goodness and love ourselves. Sure, God could've made us all robots programmed to love Him all day, but that wouldn't be genuine. The bible from start to finish is an epic meta narrative of the fall away from God and our cooperation with His plan to restore the Edenic mandate and overcome darkness. The meaning of life might be "good from evil" or "beauty from filth." God Himself came down as man and suffered horribly to show us it's not pointless that we struggle and that He does care for us immensely.There would also be no story. It would be LOTR except it's just the Shire and nothing bad happens. Who would care about that? Peace is the end goal but only has meaning because it was achieved through sacrifice, courage, learning, and fellowship.
>>18067246>The Septuagint is indeed the oldest manuscript we have,some idiotic jew was claiming otherwise with the dead sea lie as I've seen beforeThis has always been my claim but more than thatI believe the Septuagint is the original written OTIt does not matter because Christ is the Lord
>>18068547what's the deal with the dead sea scrolls? i saw someone say they're a hoax because they're written in modern hebrew script and on sheep skin which is something never found from that era. i've not looked into them enough to know and secular scholars seem to think they're genuine
If we agree that there's a such thing as objective evil, then God would hate that and by extension hate someone's participation in it.
>>18062178OT: Jewish tribal fairytalesNT: Bastardized greek thought written way later
>>18068505>Sure, God could've made us all robots programmed to love Him all day, but that wouldn't be genuine. What happens in heaven?
>>18069335A lot is guesswork but at the end of history, the saved get resurrected into incorruptible glorified bodies. Sin, evil, and death are destroyed. The things that cause sin or evil thoughts no longer exist. And when I hear incorruptible, I imagine intrusive and impure thoughts can't penetrate your consciousness anymore.The love of God by people that go to heaven would be genuine because they chose to love God before in the fallen world when they didn't have to. There's also the idea that time doesn't exist and everyone is in a state of ecstasy and bliss that never fades.
>>18069363>The things that cause sin or evil thoughts no longer exist. And when I hear incorruptible, I imagine intrusive and impure thoughts can't penetrate your consciousness anymore.And this can't be the default state of humanity because?
>>18069331They're actually both bastardized Greek thoughts run through the minds of jewish fairy tale schizos, and are written within a few hundred years of each other (3rd century BCE to 2nd century CE).
