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>Humans have an innate desire for incest, and the taboo exists to repress it, forming the basis of civilization and morality.
Is he right?
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>>18066193
> Bourgeois class has innate desire for incest.
There, fixed
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>>18066193
>coked out sex addict insists all people are as degenerate as him and every single man to ever exist wants to rail his mother the way he wants to rail his
gonna call bs on that mr sometimes a cigar is just a cigar
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>>18066193
>>18066291
There's some very loose connection to be made with traditional religious concepts. Namely the idea that a woman always belongs to a man throughout her life - first her father, then her husband. Freud made an observation that if you could get a girl to recount childhood stories to you, and hold yourself in a paternal frame while doing so, it could make her become attracted to you through an unconscious process to seek the man she belongs to.
Of course he would end up expanding the notion beyond what's neccessary, but I found the core premise interesting.
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>>18066193
Freud was a cokehead who projected his own nasty shit onto everyone.

> Humans have an innate desire for incest
What about Westermarck effect? People raised together have zero sexual attraction.
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Freud was a perverted Jew. Never in my life have I harbored the faintest sexual attraction toward my mother.
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Of course he is.
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>>18066267
>>18066291
If you belong to a religious tradition there are laws against incest, murder, and everything else you think you're above because in actuality your civilization has held you back; but the "code" is still there, repurposed for socially acceptable things, including "antisocial" things which are just more acceptable than incest and murder.

Is *everything* a libido issue? Depends on the person but in general no, Freud was wrong about that. Still, when society was a little more controlled, a lot more boiled down to poorly repressed libido.
Does that mean the answer is to express the repressed libido? No. Unfortunately that's how normies have responded since the 60s. But that's been turning around rapidly in the last 10 years and everyone is missing the point again for the second time, again pawning off all their own inadequacies onto projections.
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Can we at least agree that we look for characteristics in potential companions that our parents had, most likely due to association with dependancy and commitmnt?
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>>18066378
Speak for yourself
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>>18066318
Freud is completely useless in his field. He is, however, very useful to study to gain an insight into the psyche of jewry, since he and his patients were jews.
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>>18067093
just talk to jewish people. they're not ghosts or something.
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>>18067104
Thank Kronion and Argosbane, I live nowhere near any.
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>>18066193
Actual incest, not really.
But 4chan should have clued you in that for some reason, a lot of guys and girls get off calling someone they're attracted to "mommy" or "daddy"
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>>18067202
then don't make up shit about people you don't know. you wouldn't like it if others did that to you, so follow the golden rule.
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Incest porn wouldn't be so prolific if he was wrong.
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>>18067210
>moving is impossible
You of all people should know this isn't true, jacob.
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>>18067227
who are you quoting? fucking weirdos on here. speak normally.
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>>18067240
Your argument relies on the idea that because I don't currently live near you jews I couldn't possibly know anything about you.
Where's that high IQ we hear about? Keep up jacob.
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>>18066309
>People raised together have zero sexual attraction.
Yeah… as if there aren’t countless examples showing the opposite
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>>18067281
NTA, but pheromones essentially block you from developping sexual attraction to someone you've been raised alongside, so anyone who does want to bang his sister is a true freak of nature.
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>>18066309
Westermarck effect is supposedly this big thing preventing siblings from fucking each other, but there is no indication whatsoever that rates of sibling incest are lower than parent-child incest, where Westermarck doesn't apply. Fathers seem to experience a comparatively strong suppression of sexual attraction towards their daughters as brothers typically do for their sisters. Weird how that happens, given how Westermarck is supposed to be this critical safeguard against inbreeding.

I'm open to there being some innate sexual disinterest between children grown up together based on data, but the bulk of what is considered Westermarck really just seems to be socialized rather than innate. I don't care for Freud overall but he's probably more right than his detractors on this particular subject.
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>>18066193
>Humans have an innate desire for incest, and the taboo exists to repress it, forming the basis of civilization and morality.
Does that mean aristocrats are uncivilized?
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>>18066193
are you retarded?
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>>18068590
>I want to fuck my sister
>and my daughter
>therefore every man must be a giant pervert like me
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>>18069902
It's just the usual projection. Herve Ryssen has an interesting documentary on jews, incest and their incessant projections about it.
https://odysee.com/@WorldTruthSeekers:6/JewsIncest:1
Laurent Guyenot also has some articles on the same topic, such as this one.
https://www.unz.com/article/freud-sexual-abuse-and-cover-up/
pic unrelated
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>>18066193
Yes and no.
As a human being develops, they shift their identity and grow their faculties - an infant realizes they exist, realizing there exists causation, that there are social roles, that those roles shift in time etc. Incest is a reflex to try and go back where you came from. To re-merge with the void (suicide) or to re-merge with your subconscious mind (opiates) or to fixate on your social role (avarice)... these are symbolic incests. The basis of civilization and morality is to afford those while showing you a way out.

Many ideas that Freud had were legitimate except for the part where he sees sex as the key fundamental basis of it. Once you realize sexual characteristics are only chronologically, but not symbolically fundamental to a human mind, he starts being more useful.
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>>18069902
Except my post explicitly states that most people don't want to fuck neither their daughters nor sisters.
Are you the product of multi-generational cousin marriage, by any chance? Or is there another explanation for your inability to grasp basic English?
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>>18066193
[Jews] have an innate desire for incest, and the taboo exists to repress it, forming the basis of [Judaism] and its """morality""". - the Jew in the pic

He was just "projecting" his own cultural norms on others.
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>>18066193
What he says makes complex sense when you consider that his experience is based on extremely rich, neurotic and bored jewish housewives
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Kinda weird that anybody takes Fraud seriously after Jung.
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>>18068264
>NTA, but pheromones essentially block you from developping sexual attraction to someone you've been raised alongside, so anyone who does want to bang his sister is a true freak of nature.
There is no scientific evidence of this.
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>>18072670
It might not affect jews if that's what you're thinking.
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>>18072444
Jung was outed as a pseud with the shadow nonsense. id, ego and superego are more relatable, observable concepts.
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>>18072694
Wrong again Jew. Show me the anatomical structures, genes and underlying biochemistry for this "Id", "Ego" and "Super Ego" you speak of.......Go ahead. I'll wait. Sure, you can go fuck your mother first. We all know that's how you praise Lord Freud.
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>>18066267
But nobles loved incest
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Funny how Christcucks, trannies and incestfags have such similar arguments.
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>>18067281
You being one of those examples?



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