will race become irrelevant in the future? the same it was in ancient times?
Race was always relevant, and will continue to be so.
>>18068702everyone will look like this
>>18068702>will race become irrelevant in the future?"""""No""""". Race's relationship with culture, politics, etc.. Will change though. It will be for lack of a better term "different from what it is now". In another 300 years we might be a technically post-race society due to some combination of: wide-scale generational miscegenation creating a novel homogenized phenotype, and having access to cosmetic gene-therapy or cybernetic prothesis, all these things would dramatically, and permanently, change our relationship with race. Probably in ways we can't anticipate or understand until it happens.
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Whites have been killing whites and blacks have been killing blacks long before they met each otherIf everyone was of the same race they would find a difference no matter how insignificant to hate (hey that rhymes)
>>18068777I wish. In reality, it'll most likely be ugly mutts however.As an aside, I remember when I got the Natgeo magazine that photo was from back in 2013 when i was still in HS. That's when I realized mixed women with really activated my neurons.
>>18068783truelightskins vs darkskins would go from a meme to genuine prejudice
>>18068702>the same it was in ancient timesThe ancients were racistshttps://thuletide.wordpress.com/2020/12/07/race-ethnicity-and-racism-in-greco-roman-society/https://keithwoods.pub/p/ethnopolitics-in-the-roman-empire
>Only black people have curly hairCan't fool me I grew up in Scotland plenty of white people had legit curls and where bullied into using straighteners.
>>18068898It's a genuine prejudice in parts of Africa.
>>18068997The scott irish had a lot of jew dna mixed in its one of the reasons they are sometimes insufferable people
it definitely will be, considering the truth that race isn't anything more than a social construct with zero basis in biology
Ancient times were some of the most racist shit ever. Romans called everyone else barbarians, greeks thought they were superior to all non-greeks. Race/ethnicity was the literal basis for war and slavery.The only difference now is we have globalism and tech. But tribalism is hardwired. As long as skin color and culture look different, people will notice. It won't ever be "irrelevant".
>>18069016The concept of a "basis in biology" is itself a social construct
>>18069022>As long as skin color and culture look different, people will notice. It won't ever be "irrelevant".This, people have gotten more racist since white replacement accelerated. Social media the past few years has gotten quite racist
>>18068971there was no concept of race in the ancient past
>>18069041What do you mean by "race"?Why were the ancients racist then? Read the articles, the primary sources are plain as day
>>18068702racialism is mostly contained to Westerners and their allies. the most amazing thing i recently read was that the republic of china's constitution was specifically racialist whereas the people's republic of china's was not. >>18069016it's already irrelevant in the scientific field but most people aren't involved in science. so who knows when or if things will change for the broader public
>>18068778humans have been a post race society since the last of the ancient hominids died off
>>18069051>racialism is mostly contained to Westerners and their allies. the most amazing thing i recently read was that the republic of china's constitution was specifically racialist whereas the people's republic of china's was not.Meanwhile in realityhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Cleanest_Race>it's already irrelevant in the scientific field but most people aren't involved in science. so who knows when or if things will change for the broader publicAnother inversion of reality. Scientists in China believe race is "biological" while the Western consensus is that it's a "social construct".You can stop pretending to fawn over BASED LEFTIST LIBERAL BROWNS now.
>>18069048race means genus. homo sapiens sapiens is the only race of humans extant today. if people are "racist" that means that they believe that different races exist, but obviously they are wrong since all the other hominids are extinct. like your article notes being a racist simply means believing that other races exist. and like your article also says greco-roman thinkers did not use modern racialist terms like "white", which the author hilariously defines as "anyone who is european". like all racialist diatribes it is a gigantic nothingburger and trash. we all know that greco-romans knew that people other than greco-romans existed. nobody is debating that.
>>18069022you are mistaking tribalism with racialism. as you know rome itself was a multi-ethnic empire. what made you barbaric was the fact that you were not a subject of rome.
>>18069061>Another inversion of reality. Scientists in China believe race is "biological" while the Western consensus is that it's a "social construct".well the U.S. census literally has boxes where you can check your race. idk what chinese census says. i'm actually kind of curious now. i know for a fact that chinese people are not stupid enough to believe in biological race. their scientific fields are extremely cutting edge and racialism has been a known pseudoscience since the 20th century. idk why you posted juche north korean propaganda, that is a whole separate thing from china they diverged after the korean civil war. their political system is different than china.
>>18069061also the link you posted literally says that the book was derived from japanese fascism, fascism was invented in europe and it became associated with racialism because of hitler. so this is basically another way of you telling me that i am correct.
>>18069072>if people are "racist" that means that they believe that different races exist, but obviously they are wrong since all the other hominids are extinct.>like your article notes being a racist simply means believing that other races exist.Why are you equivocating about the fixed meaning of the word "racist"? The usage of the word is very dynamic and fluid, often vibe-based, as we all know. In practice it means something like "holding (usually negative) opinions about someone based on their ancestry".Why does it matter if they used the word "white" or not? They applied inborn, usually negative characteristics to other ethnic groups and peoples. Is that not racist?Why are you even pretending that the ancients weren't racist? Like, what's the cope angle here?
>>18069094yeah vibe-based like astrology and those crystals european girls love playing with. i don't care about vibes. do you know how gay you sound?ancients cannot categorically be racist because there is not even a concept such as race. it's like trying to convince me that blind people all hate the color red. they would have no opinion on that color because they have never seen it. so how are you going to tell me that ancient people are racist when, if you asked them if they were or were not racist, they would blink and ask you what that even means? >They applied inborn, usually negative characteristics to other ethnic groups and peoples. Is that not racist?no. racist means believing that race exists.
>>18069084>>18069089>just trust me bro, the Chinese definitely don't hate blacks and other racial outsidersLol, like all men they hate other races unless they see a sexy woman of another race, then it's boner time. It's like that everywhere, in every society, without failure.
>>18069101By this logic they didn't practice eugenics because they didn't have the word "eugenics" and didn't know genes existed.
>>18069022not true, Romans cared about culture not race which is why they hire everyone from nubians to syrians to goths and made them citizens
>>18069296>this slave-owning patriarchal violent militaristic regime who spent centuries fighting "primitive barbarians" was actually wholesome anti-racist because they had imperial subjects of other ethnicities
>>18069296https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbarian>The slaves of Athens that had "barbarian" origins were coming especially from lands around the Black Sea such as Thrace and Taurica (Crimea), while Lydians, Phrygians and Carians came from Asia Minor. Aristotle (Politics 1.2–7; 3.14) characterises barbarians as slaves by nature.
>>18068702If anything, after the decimation of white race is complete sometime in the next 30 years, other races would feel existentially threatened and race-conscious mentality will flare up with revived vigour. With no institute of stable family and lack of laidback economy to pacify the population, people will gravitate towards racial cooperation as they always did before the atomization of the industrial age.
>>18069102Dark skin is disgusting
>>18068777The opposite of that is true. Unless there is some weird uniformity-eugenics breeding program, humanity will not have a same look because. More intermixing between individuals just means a more diverse combination of traits and thus more phenotypes. It would only lead to the disappearance of some recessive traits such as blue eyes.
>>18068971>thuletide>keithwoods
>>18069531Primary sources in the articles
>>18069016>>18069051https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_Genetic_Diversity:_Lewontin%27s_Fallacy
>>18068702Not even specifically fascists in ww2 could agree if race was even real. Italy pushed that race was a social construct.
>>18069581For the 100th time, this is false. Fascist Italy was racist and, for example, declared Slavs to be a barbarian race.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italian_fascism_and_racism
>>18068745FPBP. Black people argue amongst themselves about light skins vs dark skins. Race will never not be a factor.
>>18068777Her children will just look as her husbands race. I have seen this a lot with clear mulatto women with white husbands
>>18068702>the same it was in ancient times?Lol, no. You are retarded if you think race did not matter in "ancient times". Race has always mattered, and it will always matter. Trying to pretend as if race does not matter is insanity, and a modern aberration.
>>18069022>Race/ethnicity was the literal basis for war and slaveryNot at all. Greeks enslaved and warred with other greeks with no problem, as did the Latins. Race was invented as a propaganda tool at best, but was never the reason behind a conflict. Nobody greek or roman ever felt a kinship with their "race", they didnt need to LARP this crap like a rootless 4chan poster. They already had familial networks that placed them in a social being, a phratry to tend to as a representation of their living blood line, Gods their house worshipped and payed respects to, etc.
>>18069422Blue eyes will still be able to appeal so long as both parents have the recessive gene. Reminder blue eyes can be found all over Afro-Eurasia albeit in smaller numbers than Europe. Especially the Levant, Berber tribes in North Africa Central Asia .
>>18069783>Nobody greek or roman ever felt a kinship with their "race", Wow that’s a mighty bold claim to make with 0 degree of how retarded and baseless it is. You know what every Greek and Roman felt all the time?
>>18069790I do yeah, because they werent deracinated and estranged cosmopolitans they had no reason to feel kinship with a universal made-up identity like race.
>>18069783>Greeks enslaved and warred with other greeks with no problem, as did the LatinsI guess the Nazis weren't racist then, they did war against Brits after all
>>18069812You don’t think two Italic Romans or Hellenistic Greeks that came across each other in Gaul or Judea or some other place, felt kinship with each other? First off it’s not even true that these societies weren’t cosmopolitan because they were. Second, they certainly did feel kinship more so than with Celts or Jews. Otherwise why would they even speak of themselves as a people ie Aristotle talking about “The Greeks”? You make 0 sense.
>>18069787That's underselling it. It's virtually nonexistent outside of European peoples.
>>18069863> It's virtually nonexistentExcept, it’s not?
>>18069871Light eyes and light hair is found at an extremely low frequency outside of European peoples. Hence the "virtually". Gaslighting to say otherwise.
>>18069838Did the nazis enslave brits like they did so for slavs, gypsies and jews?
>>18069856At their most decadent level they were, however any sort of in-group out-group distinction within civil society did not arise from racial charecter. Their are aristocrats who have historically differentiated themselves from the masses out of a racial basis such as in the french revolution when they had fled to the Netherlands and subsequently identified themselves as germanic franks who deserved to rule over the gaulish french peasantry. This distinction however only exists to retroactively justify class and power relations, it doesnt have any basis in reality, its more of a symptom of a power dynamic just like with propagandistic accounts of foreign peoples rome sought to conquer.
>>18068702>the same as it was in ancient times?LMFAOOOThe mystery races created in this era will evolve into brand new ethnicities and genetic groupsIf civilization collapses the sheer diversity of genetics will be greater than ever before. We are becoming more and more divergent from one another not less.
>>18068777>everyone will be a nigger mongrel o algo even doe there's a shitton of other races amerishartian nigger worship at its best
>>18069102>unless they see a sexy woman of another race, then it's boner time. This applies to literally every race except niggers and abos, nigger women are repulsive, that baboon in your webm is disgusting
>>18069406>>18070128Clearly people haven't always thought this as evidenced by the mass amounts of rape in every state with black female slaves
>>18070136Using an ape as a cumdumpster to produce more slaves != actually attracted to those monkeysNigger women are the equivalent of Indian men, no one likes them and everyone including niggers prefer women of other races
>>18068702Damn the straight hair looks way better. Also no. Race is the easiest identity people have. Ideology provides you an identity to which you then conflict with others through, but race is born.
>>18070144>Damn the straight hair looks way betterTrue, nigger hair is fucking hideous, it should be bred out entirely
>>18068745Race is a social construct which started as a pseudoscience in the 18th century. Before then, people judged each other based on culture and language. It still baffles me that people, including anti-racists, assume race is a biological reality. It's like still believing that Chinese medicine can prevent cancer or that the earth is flat
>>18070139You clearly dislike them for whatever reason but you are not the arbiter of objective beautyOvid's Sappho said>If I am not dazzling fair, Cepheus’ Andromeda was fair in Perseus’ eyes, though dusky with the hue of her native landHer native land being Aethiopia.Pompeii graffiti>He who loves a dark-skinned girl burns on black coals; when I see a dark girl I gladly eat blackberriesPeople have always had different tastes and I assume your dislike of black women is motivated by your general dislike of black people
>>18069598>>18069602>Brings up an example of something that is explicitly not race>DUUURRR RACE IZ RAEL!!1Leftists dont have to lift a finger when race realists do everything in their power to diminish race themselves. When Romans and Greeks pointed out how pale and retarded northern Euros were, was that an example of race? No? Now you have to explain why it isn't when blacks noticing differences in their shades or brown somehow is. Yes? Congratulations, you just split the white race in half and paved the way for the further reduction race down to total uselessness. Stop pretending race is simply whenever people notice other people are different. You're doing a disservice to real racists who at least tried to apply science to it.
No because it so happens that black people are not IQ 100 high trust low crime like white people and decades of civil rights, affirmative action, DEI and special treatment for black people hasn't fixed it. Some might say "well some white people are IQ 80 and some black people are IQ 120" and argue for a form of social darwinism, but even so, when you look at the people above IQ 120 it is wall to wall white people, a few east asians, a handful of brown people and virtually no black people.
>You, Indra, are the destroyer of all cities, the killer of the dasyu, the prosperous man, the Lord of Heaven. (8.87.6) >The god who destroyed the dasyu and protected the Aryan Color (Aryavarna). (3.34.9) >The mighty Thunderer, with his fair skin friends, won the Earth, the sunlight and the waters. (1.100.18.) >Upon Father and Mother they have roared in unison, shining with the verse of praise, burning those who have no rite, sweeping from the earth and the heavens with supernatural strength, the dark skin hated by Indra. (9.73.5.) >You killed the dasyu without nose, with your weapon and in their home you overthrown the hostile talkers. (5.29.10.) >Indra protected in battle the devotee Arya, and subjugated for Manu to the lawless ones and conquered the black skin. (1.130.8.) >Indra, the killer of Vritra, the destroyer of the cities, has dispersed the dasa, born of dark ancestry. (2.20.7) >Indra chased away "the vile brood of dasyu". (2.12.4). >They arrived active and brilliant, impetuous in speed like bulls, expelling away the black skin. (9.41.1.) >Indra brings drops of moisture on his yellow beard. (10.23.4.) >With the drink, the Soma drinker grew in power, the Iron God, with a yellow beard and yellow hair. (10.96.8.) >Oh, Lord of all men, with a clear cheek. (1.9.3.) Throw your dart against the dasyu, Thunder God; Increases the power and glory of the Arya, (1.103.3.)
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>>18068702It's all about that race, about that race, always will be.
>>18070199The question isn’t what race is and isn’t scientifically. It’s about whether or not race, no matter what conceptions if it people have, will be a factor in how people think and act. Some blacks being lighter, by being mixed RACE, and being at odds with blacks that are dark, just one RACE, is an example how race governs how people think even when they should have a lot in common. Though you or I might apply a scientific answer to what races are what, whether you like it or not, people think of race mainly as just skin color. This isn’t to say their conception is correct, but their concept of race is still a factor in their thoughts and actions.
>>18070128>>18070186I'm technically "racist" because I'm against mass immigration, but I'm attracted to women of nearly all races. If she has big butt or booba, peepee go boing, simple as
>>18070186There's men that also fuck literal animals lol nigger women are bottom of the barrel, I'm sure there's also extreme outlier cases of women who are attracted to pajeets, but that doesn't change the fact that jeets are bottom of the barrel in terms of attractivenessYou're either a seething nigger or a seething nigger lover, nigresses are hideous apes, have some fucking taste
>>18070316>ugly as shit monkey with a wig/straightened hair mogged by a superior race of womeneven niggresses know their features are inferior
>>18070316Anti-immigration of a different race is just common sense but I’m not passing up a cutie no matter the race. And I’m not treating anyone with undue disrespect regardless of race. But the entire obsession about race, is exactly the issue that trying to force different races together causes. It’s not on mind when everyone is around their own people. Then we just come up with some other differences to kill each other. But at least we’re not adding fuel to the fire.
>>18070177yeah bro pygmies and swedes are the same. Don't you have a reddit post to make?
>>18070318>>18070321I don't know why you have to be so rude. I try to have a discussion about history and all you do is write about how much you hate niggers.I think your hatred for their appearance comes from your dislike of their uncivilzed behavior rather than being innate.
>>18068997My mother does too. Red hair, fair skin, burns in the sun. She dyes her hair now and its straighter now but she had red curls growing up in the 70s.
>>18069015>source: my ass
>>18070316Well put
>>18070446>I think your hatred for their appearance comes from your dislike of their uncivilzed behavior rather than being innate.Nope, I actually hate them because of how hideous they are, I was disgusted by them since kindergarten
>>18070446It's probably both.
>>18068702acting like most african americans aren't mulattos already.>>18068777looks white coded I dunno. I wouldn't worry so much about the phenotypical. the genetics of brain structure worry me more.
>>18070776>the genetics of brain structure worry meWhy?
>>18068702In the future they will include haplogroups and other genetic information on everyone's birth certificates, passports, etc.
>>18069102BWC whore.
