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the Holy Roman Empire was neither holy, nor Roman, nor an empire
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>>18069076
> Holy
Literally crowned by the pope you dipshit. It was the pope's main thug for centuries.

> Roman
Founded by charlemagne to restore the western roman empire. Kept the title and claim alive for a millennium.

> Empire
Controlled most of western/central europe. Was a supranational state with an emperor ruling over kings and princes.
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>>18069076
Would be more relevant, if not for his status as the intestinal worm of kings.
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>>18069076
>jeetcope
shit thread
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>>18069076
it was an Empire
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>>18069076
Every time I see someone saying that this is how I imagine them.

You people are completely missing the time and context of this quote and think you're so clever. Meanwhile you literally know nothing about the Holy Roman Empire.
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>>18069076
Unholy German Confederation is what it should be called.
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It shouldn't have been considered Roman after it lost control of Rome.

>but what about the Eastern Roman Empire?

Same.
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>>18069076
i'm Voltired
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>>18069861
confederations usually are not imperialists. they are not compelleled to get subjects nor land by force.
free will, individual and collective, is at the very heart of it. very much like the eu. you can join (if all agree), you can leave (without force) and you can even be kicked out.

they are reeeeeeally slow on the decision making, but the efectiveness pays out.
>1k years

hre was just a namely thing: a spirit.
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>>18069076
Napoleon was a homosexual. But I agree the HRE was an abomination.
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>>18069076
Time to go to bed, Voltaire
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the united states of America is neither united, or american



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