Whats the particular fixation with this version of the bible when it was written centuries after jesus also what about the billions of humans that dont speak english? Theres a kjv version of every language?They sound like muslims when they claim only the arab version of the quran is valid but at least the quran was actually first recorded on arab
>>18070070It tries to preserve the intended double meanings embedded in many of the verses.
>>18070075a reason so many children of families that are KJV only are so fucked in the head>learn double entendre really early>insane innuendos in the Bible>sexual repression and guilt>???>Profit
>>18070087>insane innuendos in the Bible>sexual repression and guiltLol, no. That is not it.
>>18070089enlighten me
>>18070070>Whats the particular fixation with this version of the bible when it was written centuries after jesusIt's a perfect translation in our native language.>also what about the billions of humans that dont speak english?They need a Bible in their own language.>Theres a kjv version of every language?No. The King James is the best translation of the original Greek and Hebrew in any language. It was a blessing from God because the Anglo-Saxon nation cried out for God's word 400 years ago. There is no Spanish equivalent, for example, because beaners don't care what the Bible teaches. There have been attempts in the same manner that there were good attempts prior to the final product of the King James, but it's impossible to put together such a work when just one Mexican is working on it.
>>18070160>perfect translation>best translation>still kept the camel misspellingKJV onlyists are unserious people.
>>18070160I didn't even know this variant of the bible schizoid existed until just now. Fascinating.
>>18070169Have fun burning.
>>18070169Nope, it really is that hard for a rich man to make it on the path. The other way wouldn't make sense anyway, threading a needle with thread isn't hard.
>>18070171>schizoidYou don't know what that word means.>Fascinating.>>>/r/eddit
>>18070169
>>18070070It's another flavor of Protestant heresy. Once you buy into Sola Scriptura, you can buy into believing that no English-speaking person had God's Word until 1611.Think about the implications of that.
>>18070184>It's another flavor of Protestant heresy. Once you buy into Sola Fide, you can buy into believing that no one believed in Jesus' resurrection until 33 AD. Think about the implications of that.
>>18070160>There is no Spanish equivalent, for example, because beaners don't care what the Bible teaches. There have been attempts in the same manner that there were good attempts prior to the final product of the King James, but it's impossible to put together such a work when just one Mexican is working on it.Oh so you are just a racist faggot ok jesus ordered to make disciples of all nations he will not call your name the day of judgment
>>18070070People whose faith is 100% centered on the Bible are uncomfortable with the fact that they can't read the real Bible. So they convince themselves that one English translation is just as real as the real Bible and use that. Same thing with the Catholic Church which declared the Latin Vulgate infallible tbqh.
it is the only genuine version of the bible in englishan alternative is to learn greek, latin and aramaic and study the earliest sources for yourself, but god created different languages for a reasonGenesis 111 And the whole earth was of one language, and of one speech.2 And it came to pass, as they journeyed from the east, that they found a plain in the land of Shinar; and they dwelt there.3 And they said one to another, Go to, let us make brick, and burn them thoroughly. And they had brick for stone, and slime had they for morter.4 And they said, Go to, let us build us a city and a tower, whose top may reach unto heaven; and let us make us a name, lest we be scattered abroad upon the face of the whole earth.5 And the Lord came down to see the city and the tower, which the children of men builded.6 And the Lord said, Behold, the people is one, and they have all one language; and this they begin to do: and now nothing will be restrained from them, which they have imagined to do.7 Go to, let us go down, and there confound their language, that they may not understand one another's speech.8 So the Lord scattered them abroad from thence upon the face of all the earth: and they left off to build the city.9 Therefore is the name of it called Babel; because the Lord did there confound the language of all the earth: and from thence did the Lord scatter them abroad upon the face of all the earth.
>>18070252>he will not call your name the day of judgmentCorrect. I will not be at the great white throne judgment, because I'm not going to be damned.>>18070260>the real Bible1. You don't read Greek.2. You don't read Hebrew.3. No, you do not.4. You are LARPing.5. The King James says exactly the same thing as the originals.
>>18070272>1. You don't read Greek.>2. You don't read Hebrew.So? >The King James says exactly the same thing as the originals.No translation says exactly the same thing as the original, things are always lost or added unintentionally.
So this is all we have? We're just fucked and stuck with a 500 year old version because the others made after it suck? English speakers before us all got to have the accurate translation in their contemporary english but ours are cursed to be heretical so we have to read ye olde english to get the word?
>>18070090>enlighten meI don't do skin lightening treatments and it wouldn't do you any good anyways because your fruit would be no good.
>>18070295>gets shown arguments against KJV>lol no thats not true>oh yeah? Explain how it isnt>u-uh well your skin or something uh also it wouldnt helpWhy are "Christians" like this? You see someone who you could enlighten about Christ and maybe correct about His word but you'd rather dismiss it and be a sardonic cunt? Yeah that's real Christlike. I see you're keeping up the "good works" part of being a Christian.
>>18070075It makes up entire sections out of the blue. I'm not sure why it removes so many books either. It gets a lot of flak for adding in the name Lucifer, which is actually a name that appears in the old Vulgate, but then people just ignore that it completely fabricates the battle of Carchemish.
>>18070313>It makes up entire sections out of the blue. Those flames just got hotter.
KJVonlyists worship these booksNot God, but KJV books
>>18070319I couldn't agree more. The dirty prot proles will get what's coming to them.
>>18070272etnic hatred will land you on hell enjoy burning the pain will never end
>>18070306>he didn't grasp the fruit referenceSad.
>>18070323The King James Bible is God. If you don't see Jesus when you read it, you aren't saved.>>18070335Tick tock.>>18070337>etnic>land you on hellYou're brown.>enjoy burningI'm going straight to Heaven when I die. You aren't.
>>18070361>Tick tockWait are you saying IM going to...?
>>18070369>a Catholic who can readAnd they say miracles don't happen!
>>18070376I'm not Catholic.
>>18070361Wait the tick tock is like... time until....? :o
>>18070369to Raspberry Heaven:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3ZtmLaNhbc&list=RDK3ZtmLaNhbc&start_radio=1
>>18070379>I'm not Catholic.Yes, you are.
>>18070381Oh thank goodness I'm so relieved
>>18070383Maxing out flames, are we?
>>18070387Yes he's a satanist
>>18070387>>18070389>HellmaxxingIs this the newest TikTok trend? xDDD
All you need.
>>18070659Enjoy Hell, loser.
>>18070681My wife told me you're being mean and you should stop.
>>18070681Tick tock.
>>18070070Mostly dumb hillbillies in my experience.
>>18070160>It's a perfect translation in our native language.No it isn't. The translators made this very clear in their comments about the translation.
>>18070397Unfortunately!
>>18071002>The translators were humble>Therefore we should reject JesusNon-sequitur.
>>18070160they hated him because he spoke the truth
>>18070070Because if things can be complicated and ambiguous that's emotionally difficult for them.
>>18070270>picrelHow do you know it's a matter of the other manuscript traditions having taken those verses out and not of your preferred manuscript tradition having added them?
>>18071025Where did they say that?
>>18070070Thanks but I'll stick to Wycliff.
>>18070293>English speakers before us all got to have the accurate translation in their contemporary english but ours are cursed to be heretical so we have to read ye olde english to get the word?There's just not a real need because the KJV is perfectly readable, unless you're being a disingenuous twerp who pretends he can't read beyond a Dr. Seuss level (which, if true, signals that you have far bigger problems).
>>18071622There are bits that a modern English speaker is likely to not just fail to understand but misunderstand, though, like "appearance" in the sense of "sort" or "kind" ("avoid all appearance of evil") or "conversation" in the sense of "citizenship" ("our conversation is in heaven")
>>18070070It's just a Protestant thing. Even in their apologetics >>18070270 you don't see them even mention the current Catholic bible in America, the New American Bible (NAB), or the traditional Catholic English language bible the Douay–Rheims Bible which is the Catholic Counter-Reformation response to the King James Bible. It's a Protestant thing and they just want to convince other Protestants. Their views aren't taken seriously outside of Protestant America.
>>18070172I will, I always burn local, so I always have fun doing it.
>>18070270No, read chapter 10 before chapter 11:>10 This is the account of Shem, Ham and Japheth, Noah’s sons, who themselves had sons after the flood.>The Japhethites>2 The sons[a] of Japheth:>Gomer, Magog, Madai, Javan, Tubal, Meshek and Tiras.>3 The sons of Gomer:>Ashkenaz, Riphath and Togarmah.>4 The sons of Javan:>Elishah, Tarshish, the Kittites and the Rodanites.[b] 5 (From these the maritime peoples spread out into their territories by their clans within their nations, each with its own language.)The various languages were created because noah's decedents took to the sea.
>>18070070>Theres a kjv version of every language?Technically yes, how is that even a question? How do you make a thread like this and ignore that fact?
>>18071888king james wasnt the king of india if thats what ur saying. get a grip
>>18070361>I'm going straight to Heaven when I die. You aren't.Nope, its going to be you and the anon you are arguing with and St. Peter will tell both that you have exactly one minute to decide which one of you gets to go to heaven and if you don't send the other anon to heaven in your place, you will both go to hell.
>>18071025>The translators were humble enough to cite their own flaws.>Therefore they have no flaws and their words are divine.
>>18071890Thats not what I meant. What I meant is that the KJV does have its equivalents in other languages of the world since they all share the same source of text.
>>18070999So the only whites still maintaining a TFR above 2 in the whole world.
>>18071915Sounds retarded. Repent and believe in the Latin Vulgate and all its derivatives.
>anything other than the actual original aramaic Enjoy burning!
>>18071915There are decent TR-based translations in most major languages that I am aware of. I wouldn't quite rank these translation with the KJV in terms of sheer accuracy and amount of work put into making a technically accurate and high quality translation, especially when you factor in all the revisions it went through before arriving at the form it is today. Lots of proofreading and checking for consistency by different scholars. I'm not aware of another translation that had quite as much work put into it, since the KJV had at least 47 bible scholars assigned to the project. Most other Bible translations, including the earlier English ones, are the work of far fewer people. Some of the Geneva translations (like the French Geneva Bible, later edited by Beza and even later Louis Segond) come close. The 1611 KJV itself also took a lot of inspiration from the English Geneva Bible of 1560. In a lot of places it's basically the same in the main text. Although the 1560 translation was good, based on my comparisons I would still say that the 1611 translation shows that it had even more work put into it than the 1560 English Geneva Bible did. There are a few places in the New Testament where the textual criticism of 1611 was more accurate as well, such as including the second half of 1 John 2:23.
>>18071977But we don't have Jesus's words in Aramaic, only what some people wrote down in Greek years later.
Because Americans are mentally ill. The average American Protestant idiot is so uneducated and propagandized with exceptionalism bullshit that they believe "the Bible" (they don't know about deuterocanonicals or apocrypha) was written in English, or Hebrew. They don't know the gospels were originally in Greek.
>>18070160>There is no Spanish equivalent, for examplehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reina_Valera#Reina_Valera_Only_movement
>>18071982False. Teachings other than Peshitta Primacy are heresy.
>>18072240On what basis? Especially when it's not even written in the same dialect of Aramaic he spoke?
>>18072279Don't tell me you believe that languages """evolve""", too?
>>18072318You can literally see English evolving right there on the page. Today's English is different from the English of the Renaissance, which is different from the English of the High Middle Ages, which is different from the English of the Dark Ages.
>>18071982Have fun burning.
>>18072349Not an argument.
>>18072352Tick tock :)
>>18070070KJV is the best version because it preserves the English language at it's most interesting and refined state. If you want to "learn English", you have to know the English of the KJV/Shakespeare. Any English before that, seems too "German" and difficult to read easily for Normies. Anything after that sounds derivative and invariably references, or quotes KJV and Shakespeare. In terms of it's word-for-word accuracy to the original Greek......it's meh(B-/C). There Greek was OK, but not as good as ours today and their """Hebrew""" was virtually non-existent and no Gringo in Europe was fluent in any way, so all of those bits were a bit of a guess. Even the Jews of the day had pretty sketchy Hebrew and factual, historical info about the Levant. The authors also had to turn it into Royal Propaganda to please a Protestant King, etc......Considering they did all of that by committee while making it quite poetic and a pleasure to read, and it becomes more impressive than it being a simple historical document.I forget the name of it, but there was an accompanying document submitted with the first KJV saying that they knew that it was an imperfect translation, but that they did the best they could with what they had and that future authors should be willing and open to corrections and edits......so, of course no one has touched it ever since. Normies couldn't read anyway, so it was written for the clergy, who obviously took to it. The rhythm and rhyme of it, makes it easy to memorize and to preach a loud to the masses, which is how 98% got their Bible. No matter where you go in the world today, when people say "The Bible(tm)", they mean KJV. Even if you despise Christianity to its core, and you should, you MUST know the KJV to be considered educated.
>>18072568Those flames just got hotter.
>>18072748My innately superior Teutonic blood allows me to "pass through the fire" without harm, just like Sigurdr. He's like Jesus, but not a Jew, not a gay, not a pedo and not a gay-Jew-pedo. You wouldn't like him.
>>18074343Sounds based. I'm in. Can I bring Hercules?
TWANGThose demon cocks just got rock-hard and doubled in size
Just get a copy of RSVCE, RSV2CE, or the Challoner Dhouy Rheims since that's like 99 percent KJV after he was done 'fixing' it. It's got the KJ books and the language is mostly the same, excepting that it comes from the original texts rather than the Vulgate. And with modern wording instead of thee/thou in 2ce. DR is quite poetic and edifying in the original pre Challoner though I've not read it cover to cover.Nsrvce is proooobably actual heresy tho.
>>18075024Nrsvce is not heresy, it doesn't remove any condemnations of any behavior, it just broadens the categories
>>18075029Eh. The ddf thinks it's defective and had to redo the entire lectionary. There's no corrected edition, it's not permissible for use. I'm going to assume it's polite heresy. I do have a copy, and while I enjoy the brief introductions to the books and the maps I'll stick to the others.
>>18070070I was looking this up and found out about the Wicked Bible which sounds badass but it was just an ordinary version of the KJV where they forgot to print "not" in "Thou shalt not commit adultery". This is a very obvious error and was corrected almost immediately but it makes you wonder what other printing errors might have made it into the final versions that weren't obvious, went unnoticed and became accepted "truth". I don't hate the KJV but it's honestly overrated, you should read multiple translations and compare them rather than just blindly trusting one in the first place. If you want the unaltered original text you'll have to learn Hebrew and ancient Greek anyway.
>>18072568>No matter where you go in the world today, when people say "The Bible(tm)", they mean KJV.I'm pretty sure that's specific to the English-speaking world. In Greece, for example, when they say "The Bible" they mean the Septuagint and the original Greek New Testament.
