Why didn't they just take the Rhine post world war one or two?
>>18073153The obvious reason is that the rhine is the natural border obviously. Almost all nations have natural borders, even the line in the sand desert nations have a natural border there. The only other rule is that islands 100 miles apart with 20 million people form nations. Otherwise natural borders decide all of the national borders in Europe. In other parts of the world the lines become more arbitrary due to both frequent warfare and also lack of a government to enforce them. The modern Polish Belarus border is arbitrary and the places where the border is contentious usually don't have a fixed permanent border. Simple river natural borders that lasted a long time make sense for nations that don't go to war and just want something to mark the border.
>>18073172ok so why DIDNT they if it was the natural border
>>18073192Because the rotschilds organized wars but also WW1 was artificially prolonged by England and France refusing to agree to peace during their early losing position, and afterwards the German high command destroying itself on orders from the rotschilds. In WW2 France just supported the Nazis and there was no border, the border was returned when the allies let Nazis achieve their initial war goal of retaking the war and agreed to peace. Before then Germany didnt exist and medieval Germany was a smattering of disconnected states and the question means nothing.
>>18073153France lost WW2 and america dictated the terms in WW1
Alsace-Lorraine are Germany.
>>18073153France's borders in Europe were established in 1815. Overstepping them would mean France wanted to get gangbanged again by a coalition
they tried???https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occupation_of_the_Rhineland
>>18073239>France Lost WW2So did Poland, and unlike France, it also didn't win WW1 as the main force on the front that won the war; yet Poland gained half of Germany's territory after WW2, a war that It didn't won, while France didn't gain anything it didn't already own before 1870 after WW1 at best, and didn't gain shit after WW2 at worst.
>>18074249France had a mysterious population loss throughout the 1800s while every other country's population grew from industrialization
>>18074249Germany was inhabiting polish territory whereas france was already inhabiting german territory. They didn't just give poland territory in ww2 either they also gave a bunch of its territory away.
>>18074790>gave a bunch of its territory away.they stole it from the USSR. And France lost all of its colonies by America (which they knew would happen post W)
>>18073153By the early 20th century, nationalism had become fully established as an important concept in western countries, so giving land that is 99% German to France was not something that would have had much support. It was a time where Empires were broken up into new smaller nation states - France expanding its borders to the Rhine would have been the opposite.
