Why is Christianity gaining a resurgence in the West?
How much of it is cultural or some kind of identitarian reaction?
>>18074386Westoids are a bipolar people that swing from liberalism and secularism like a pendulum. Your next generation would be back.Also>Americans>"tHe WEst>>1807439090%
>>18074386Christian Resurgence is going to be lit
Because Jesus Christ is the Son of God
Nobody post the racial demographics of the young.
>>18074390it's 100% driven by idpol. and if this place is anything to go off of, most of said "christians" are disingenuous and are just leveraging it for their racist incel views.
Covid, unironically
>>18074400Secular world hasn't given people what it promised and left a void in many people. >>18074400Yes America is the west
>>18074386The west is more brown now
>>18074386>B-but The Amazing Atheist told me I would always bee cool and hip with the youngsters by hating God!Oops!
>>18074414What did the secular world promise? The LARP promises a RETVRN and that’s completely asinine.
>>18074386Atheism was a CIA psyop to get the public to support wars in the Middle East. Now that America is shifting its geopolitical focus to China, religion is no longer politically relevant
>>18074414Religion would do likewise as well. It would also eventually drive westoids out when it goes fun police mode.Besides looking at the demographics the "gains" seem to be quite minimal.>>18074414This is also a big reason lmao. The modern west is secular by default so being a religious LARPer is the new edgy.Pretty pathetic desu.
Logos rising
>>18074386I think this is just a sad Christian cope unfortunately. I became Christian about seven years ago and I notice no noticeable differences between young people today and young people ten years ago in regards to religion. I mean, my younger brother is a zoomer and he is a Christian, but I also brought him to church when he was younger so he at least had exposure to Christianity through his family.
>>18074386It's a larp, nobody believes in God.>>18073001
>>18074430Wars in the Middle East? You mean in the Bush years when the “moral majority” was a thing?
atheists don't care about raising families
>>18074386>people suffer or are otherwise disillusioned with the world >religion resurgences >religious authorities become corrupt and decadent>religion declines for secular authoritiesrepeat
>>18074477Religious upbringing (especially a Christian First World one) is the fastest way to produce atheists. Its a big reason why Mormons shit out tons of kids as they figured half of the kids would go secular.
>>18074430??? wtf am i reading? the biggest supporters of the war on terror were all boomer christians.you fucking braindead incels just throw your vomit onto the screen and don't even give them a second guess lmao
>>18074477Where’s your wife and children, mr. trad man?
>>18074487Christopher Hitchens popularized the term "Islamofascist" and he was a big supporter of invading Iraq
>>18074386Non White population is rising.
>>18074498>b-but the left!notice how you completely avoided replying to my point because i just pointed out how room temperature IQ your take was
>>18074487No it was a Jewish-Secular Alliance first and foremost
>>18074487True but American rhetoric during the GWOT was also heavy on "LOOK AT HOW SUPERSTITIOUS THESE RETARD GOATFUCKERS ARE UNLIKE US WHO ARE RATIONAL AND SECULAR."You could also see it in the media of the time. Zack Snyder's 300 was a thinly veiled cheerleading of the GWOT and the Persians are depicted as superstitious nonces while the ebin Greeks were fighting for" the light of reason."The CIA Anon is still a schizo btw. Ignore him.
A critical mass of people have realized something in western culture is deeply wrong. Like all mass movements, it is this fruition of consciousness spreading memetically from individual to individual that has an unseen but real effect on a whole people through their collective unconscious. It's an effect that cannot be explained by a series of interactions between individuals alone, but must be taken as an emergent phenomenon that grows out of these individual realizations.These people are tired of amoral key jingling distractions and a lying mass media hellbent on denying people coverage or popular discussion of incredibly important issues that happen to be inconvenient to powerful interest groups and NGOs, this empty media circus, alienation and materialism, algorithms and machines pretending to be men. They want to give up drugs, whoring and pornography, etc because it is all acidic to the fiber of society as a whole. They recognize that this profligacy is killing society.They want meaning, morality, and strong community. All the people telling them that truth is subjective have nothing valuable to say as a consequence, it's become clear that modernism is unsustainable even conceptually.And there is always the sterling observation from Morpheus of Deus Ex fame. That people, deep down inside, crave judgement. Because without it, group cohesion becomes impossible.This is a mass movement based on a rejection of subjectivity in favor of objectivity. Something firm, fixed, that people can hold onto in changing, dangerous, and uncertain times. For many, when they begin to really look for this thing the first thing they find is Christ. That can be explained by cultural legacy.A link to the past, context. Which is not something the entertainment moguls, cultists, and bankers that rule over this failing culture can provide. Mostly because they want you to forget that anything was ever different. Oceania has always been at war with East Asia.
>>18074508>"LOOK AT HOW SUPERSTITIOUS THESE RETARD GOATFUCKERS ARE UNLIKE US WHO ARE RATIONAL AND SECULAR."no one said this>Zack Snyder's 300 was a thinly veiled cheerleading of the GWOT and the Persians are depicted as superstitious nonces while the ebin Greeks were fighting for" the light of reason."??? read the graphic novel you gigantic faggot, that's how they're depicted there. holy shit i can feel myself getting dumber being on this board
>>18074411This criticism is true of pagan LARPers who use their reconstructed religion as a proxy for race idolatry.Christianity isn't resurgent only among one ethnic group alone. In fact, that it isn't attached to any particular ethnic group is why the numbers are leveling out.
>>18074386None of it is authentic. Nobody who has a stable life is flocking to Christianity, it's all losers who are doing it for political and social reasons. That's why they're mostly joining Catholic and Orthodox churches, with a few even talking themselves into Islam. It's all vibes and aesthetic and how best to upset liberals rather than a genuine conviction of faith.
>>18074548Wrong because Jesus Christ is the Son of God
>>18074386It’s part of the larger backlash against the Enlightenment values like rational thought or scientific reasoning. It’s the same impulse which leads to things like vaccine skepticism and conspiracy theories. A sign of a society in decline, or at least an education system in decline.
>>18074531Posts like this cement how tradlarps are literally just fedoras, which is to say just socially maladjusted dorks lashing out at their peer group.
>>18074538The graphic novel and the movie are 2 different things. The Miller comic was basically Herodotus. Hack Snyder meanwhile was definitely sniffjng GWOT farts for his themes.But yeah Im old enough tk remember American BS during these years and trust me, there was a marriage of Christards and Epic Secularists among the warfaggots during these times.
>>18074531contBut more than it's cultural legacy, it's the tenets and and teachings of that faith which makes the religion so attractive to people seeking objectivity in a world filled with chaos and malignant actors. When you cannot trust your neighbors, your government, your own family even due to the ever encroaching march of the fuck you got mine low trust culture, faith in Christ becomes a way to win peace within. And people really do appreciate being able to trust.With all it's talk of eternity, an undying love, and it's firm commitment to truth as something real in itself and not subject to the whims of who ever has more power between men, it is positioned as a medicine for most of the problems modern secular democracies and dictatorships alike are afflicted by.Economically speaking too, it provides a golden mean between the artificial extremes of crony capitalist debasement and selling out of a nation's entire industrial base in favor of sweatshop child labor, and totalitarian communist gulag slavery. If this practical aspect of the faith life were more rigorously embraced and put into action their popularity would explode within a year.
>>18074565You are a lemming with nothing of value to say. I am so right that you have nothing better to use as damage control other than calling me a dork and implying that things like fentanyl zombies taking over entire downtown areas, OnlyFans recruiting tables set up in high schools specifically targeting 17 year olds so they can start working for them as soon as it's legal, pornography addiction and companies releasing it for free to addict and demoralize minors at a young age are socially "well adjusted" behaviors. Which way, you choose.*tips fedora*
>>18074597You do not need to pretend the ramblings of ancient Middle Eastern fanfiction writers are a key to the truth of reality in order to keep degeneracy in check. See the USSR or China.
>>18074550IFLSDEBOONKED YOURE KILLING GRANDMAGET THE JAB OR YOURE FIREDITS SO SAFE AND EFFECTIVE THAT WE PERMANENTLY INDEMNIFIED ALL THE PHARMACEUTICAL MANUFACTURERS BY FORCE OF FEDERAL LAW AHEAD OF TIME SO THAT NO LEGAL CONSEQUENCES EXIST EVEN A LITTLEJUST TO REITERATE HOW SAFE AND EFFECTIVE THE VAXX ISLE EBIN CONSPIRACY LOOK AT HOW GOOD A PERSON I AM FOR ACCEPTING WHAT LAB COAT TALKING HEADS TELL ME TO DO WITHOUT ANY CRITICAL EVALUATION WHATSOEVERDO NOT DO YOUR OWN RESEARCHTRUST THE SCIENCELOBOTOMY IS SAFE AND EFFECTIVE
>>18074611Getting the measles, HPV, etc. vaccines is good actually. Congrats on bringing nearly eradicated diseases like measles back to life in the US.Do you even know why you oppose getting vaccines? Like besides some dude online telling you they are bad? The way in which vaccines work is not a secret, you can learn all about it right now if you want
>>18074597>nothing of value to say.Funny you regurgitating this trite rhetoric we’ve been discussing ad nauseam since goddamn 2013. Overcoming your porn addiction does not hinge on the necessity of jewish mythology.
>>18074606>keep degeneracy in check. See the USSR or ChinaWhat those governments did, and is still ongoing and in many cases, is some of the most heinously evil shit you can ever imagine. To put it into perspective, Putin's Russia today is a choir boy compared to the USSR under Lenin and Stalin; even if Russia has demographic problems, like China I might add, they have nothing on the sheer inhuman banality of the USSR. In no sense does that somehow fall outside the umbrella of degeneracy, moral conduct is not just a performance for other people to see. If you bury your bodies deep enough that nobody can find them, it does not absolve you.But they aren't even hiding it. Nobody in the media wants to call them out on their concentration camps because they're complicit with the slave labor and sweatshops. To cut ties with them would mean business magnates don't have a sufficiently high profit margin; these products are stained with blood.Not even Nazis would have used FPV drone gore as propaganda, but many MANY people have become so debased and dehumanized that they literally binge that garbage. Or worse, simply do not care at all that it exists and is being championed as propaganda. They really soak up and swallow in the evil, like pigs.You have world leaders talking to one another on a hot mic about trying to be immortals through organ harvesting ffs. Shit is lightning speed fucked in ways you cannot even convince of; Get a grip, stop suckling on their teat and start becoming a better person before it's too late.
>>18074386It's becoming fashionable to believe whatever you prefer to be true rather than what actually is.
>>18074618I don't. That's your strawman, IFLS fedora.Anyways corona gaslighting has completely destroyed your credibility for all time. Everyone knows it, Zuckerberg and the like can pretend to be le based free speech man now that he's a rat fleeing a sinking ship. But we all remember, at least those awake enough to have paid attention, how stringently and in what coordination these media platforms and search engine monopolies silenced those trying to expose the truth.They are still covering up their crimes, scrubbing the Internet Archive of years worth of twatter posts and other inconvenient tidbits, etc to this very day. Fuck you, personally. You make me sick, to see such bootlicking devotion to infotyrants and war pigs. The intersection between corporations and state power is you, and everyone like you willing to go to bad for such a indisputably fucked and murderous system.
>>18074653Bitch you don't know the first thing about vaccine technology, you're a loser on a computer
>covid was exploited by corporate interests >therefore burn 400 years of the white man’s mastery over nature What exactly is then end goal of the anti science brigade? You niggers are literally just Ignatius J Riley levels of reactionary clowns.
>>18074548Anon, when will you understand there is nothing "authentic", instead people revert back to family, religion and community when the rationalist machine runs its course. Spengler was about the only historian who hasnt had its view polluted by gommie brainrot and figured it out.
>>18074657I know that the MRNA shots patented by companies contracting with the feds have a mechanism or mode of action that induces, through gene code instructions, your own cells to produce the same spike proteins responsible for worst long term health effects of novel coronavirus exposure, proteins which they are normally totally incapable of producing, in numbers sufficient to result in a immune response.Shill.https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10342157/>The mode of action of COVID-19 mRNA vaccines should classify them as gene therapy products (GTPs), but they have been excluded by regulatory agencies. Some of the tests they have undergone as vaccines have produced non-compliant results in terms of purity, quality and batch homogeneity. The wide and persistent biodistribution of mRNAs and their protein products, incompletely studied due to their classification as vaccines, raises safety issues. Post-marketing studies have shown that mRNA passes into breast milk and could have adverse effects on breast-fed babies. Long-term expression, integration into the genome, transmission to the germline, passage into sperm, embryo/fetal and perinatal toxicity, genotoxicity and tumorigenicity should be studied in light of the adverse events reported in pharmacovigilance databases ... potential horizontal transmission (i.e., shedding) should also have been assessed. https://www.europarl.europa.eu/doceo/document/E-9-2024-000355_EN.html>Lobbies calling for mRNA vaccines not to be classified as gene therapy>On 17 January 2024, BioNTech and Moderna lobbyists hosted a lunch in the European Parliament with Members[1] to discuss the forthcoming revision of the pharmaceutical legislation.Their main objective was to change the legislation’s definition of ‘gene therapy’. At present, mRNA vaccines (like the COVID-19 vaccine) are to be classified as gene therapy. However, they felt that only products that modified the genome should be classified as gene therapy.
it isn't really. people want what it gave us before, but the cat's out of the bag. we know what the truth is, even if we try to lie. it's been over since at least the 1910s.
>>18074477Those two shouldn’t be breeding
>>18074386Times are becoming harder for the average person in both America and Europe. Much of the millennial generation which was in college during the 2007 financial crisis has not gone on to amass much wealth or property over the past 18 years largely because of anemic job growth and the covid pandemic. The threat of AI automation means that future job growth and economic prosperity is a non-starter. Many millennials have delayed having children in the hopes that they would find a well paying job first. Because of this biological fact the millennials are turning to what money can't buy: philosophy and religion. In so far as dollars remain beyond the reach of the ordinary American I expect Christianity to continue growing because it has become the most viable way of living in this time.
>>18074508They have to deploy the propaganda on multiple frontsChristian’s -> we’re gonna get these abdool cube worshippers and show them Christ is king!Secular/Democrat -> Oh would you think of the women and girls and the gays, we’re gonna go in there topple those despots and bring them into the modern era!All of these narratives were cooked up in thinktanks
>>18074597Do you read the Babylon bee for news?
>>18074386jews
>>18074386>How does the religion about a guy who came back from the dead keep coming back after we thought it was finished?
>>18074386People are more concerned about the depreciation of human value and the inception of the anti-christ than they are exited for the next generation of gooning material.
>>18074477Correct. They murder their own children. It is really divine justice, these vermin rebel against God to lick shit off the cocks of trannies and faggots, and then to really show him, they rip their own babies apart in the womb with pliers, and then die.Shitcolored souls. Very low, inferior people. It's a good thing they create no art, no beauty, otherwise something of them might survive their deaths.
>>18074481The secularization rate is under 20%, lol. The best way to create Atheists is tylenol exposure in vitro.
>>18074499it's the opposite because the definition of "white" has been expanding since the 1950s>40n0g
>>18074386Mass sudaca immigration.
I spent like 6 years on /lit/ consuming literature and the experience led me to fall in love with Christianity i still dont live it fully though. a life time of habits are apparently really hard to breakwhich is dumb because actually living it would solve literally all of my problems probably
zoomers exploring aesthetics of whatever that came before them because their generation hasn't captured any unique cultural snapshot. it's the same reason y2k is popular now, except christianity offers "mind" aesthetics rather than graphics and music or whatever
>>18074386Because shitskin immigrants are more religious. Everything else is a cope.
Simple. It doesn't take a genius to realize that the secular world that liberalism preached is hollow, empty, and gives no life. Liberalism centers the world around the direct human experience and espouses that nothing exists beyond the individual. But man becomes what he worships and worshiping the self means that man has nothing to aspire to but his base and carnal desires. Every libshit I've met who follows this creed is a miserable and dysfunctional individual; an atomized creature incapable of loving themselves and the people around them, hence the predilection towards self-destruction
>>18074508>the guy who has to climb a mountain and speak to a witch before he can go to war>light of reason
>>18074576Pic related is basically Herodotus.
>>18074611Donald Trump, your president, said that it's safe and effective and to get it immediately. Project Warpspeed!
>>18074386These Edomite monkeys are trying to save themselves from extinction. It won't work tho. Time for Esau to go extinct.
The "resurgence" is just a loud minority LARPing for political reasons. They are just terminally online and seething.
>>18074990And who in your opinion are the descendants of Esau?
>>18074994>noooooo noooooo you can't notice that my gay faggot tranny movement has nothing to over and return to Christ noooooo!Gahahaha
>>18074386Brown people and tech billionaire money
Elite are losing their grip and people are surprisingly quick in turning schizophrenic and looking for refuge in for example Christianity
>>18074587It's not real though, it's just a cope, it's always been a cope. Some impoverished bastard with no money to his name, living a life of monotonous drudgery where he barely makes enough to sustain himself is coping by fantasizing how this life is just temporary and he will get his reward for suffering in the heavenly afterlife. It's sad watching people waste their lives away thinking they will be rewarded for their pain.
>>18075035I don't see Christians as schizos. A lot of them are genuinely good people embracing a dying religion because the alternatives (e.g. secular humanism) look grim or unappealing.4chan Christians are noticeably toxic and immature though, possibly because most of them are like 17.In fact there seems to be substantial overlap between loudly identifying as a "zoomer" and putting a cross emoji in your social media bio
>>18074998Whiteoids.
>>18075071Whites are the descendants of Japheth, not Esau.
>The U.S. could see an unprecedented 15,000 churches shut their doors this year, far more than the few thousand expected to open, according to denominational reports and church consultantsTerminally online types deus vulting on Xharat doesn't really translate into reality 2bh.
>>18075074this. all a zoomer larp that will be over in a few years once the current social media meta changes, because they get the bulk of their cultural knowledge from it and not from their community
Opioids of the masses etc. When the going gets tough, and it is getting tough, people seek comfort in religions.
>>18075074A lot of American Protestants are becoming Catholic or Orthodox so you would expect smaller denominational Protestant churches to close down in the transition.
>>18075072Japhet had brown skin. Only Esau had reddish/pink skin.
>>18075081https://bible.usccb.org/bible/genesis/10Genesis 10>2 The descendants of Japheth: Gomer, Magog, Madai, Javan, Tubal, Meshech and Tiras.>3 The descendants of Gomer: Ashkenaz, Diphath and Togarmah.>4 The descendants of Javan: Elishah, Tarshish, the Kittim and the Rodanim.>5 From these branched out the maritime nations.>These are the descendants of Japheth by their lands, each with its own language, according to their clans, by their nations.
>>18075078Catholic church sells it's property in USA all the time due to collapsing income. Zoomer Christians are not churchgoers and tithe payers.
>>18075090Why would you expect zoomers to pay tithe? Even my grandfather never did that.
>>18075086Esau pls...>The first to come out was red, and his whole body was like a hairy garment; so they named him Esau.
>>18074400>Your next generation would be backI would agree if not for the fact gen A seem to be even more resentful of their parents and many haven't even gotten off their abused meds. I think it'll probably be at least two or three generations before the pendulum swings again.
>>18074386Atheism is gay
>>18075098>one descendant of Abraham was red>therefore all Euros are descendants of AbrahamAlso you have no explanation for the maritime prowess of the Europeans, the sons of Japheth. It's right there in the Bible.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japhetites
Why are people taking zoomer fad seriously?TradLARPers never even been in church because it is too woke and gay.
>>18075078>Only 19% of Americans self-identify as Catholic, down from 24% in 2007. This is a 20% decrease. By comparison, Protestants decreased by 21%https://crisismagazine.com/opinion/catholics-are-rapidly-losing-groundIt goes on to note that immigration is the main driver of catholic growth in the US, not conversions
>>18075110And how much of that decrease was in 2025?
>>18075078I would still consider it identity politics phase for a lot of converts. I live in Finland, and a while ago there was a news story on how the Finnish Orthodox church is growing. And while priest interviewed in the story said that it is good, he also said he does not like how many young men seem to switch faiths just based on their views on homosexuality and related moral values, since while they indeed do not accept homosexuality, the church and the faith are about so much more.
>>18075120>A new survey shows that for every 100 new Catholics, more than 800 people leave the ChurchDoesn't sound like a good trade
>>18075125>I would still consider it identity politics phase for a lot of converts.How long would they have to remain Catholic/Orthodox for you to no longer consider it "identity politics" and is actual belief?
>>18075127That survey has been debunked:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlvx4imgOnU
>>18075131>ackchaollycope - or do i translate that into spanish/tagalog/
>>18075129however long it takes for the political pendulum to swing back, then we'll see who's left
>>18075129Until they receive the Extreme Unction sacrament.
>>18075136>>ackchaollyYes, actually, you're fucking wrong. Seethe.
>>18075139So literally until they die?
>>18075125I guess the situation for me looks very different as an American Catholic. As I understand it Finland has a Lutheran state church. When the US broke away from England the Church of England in the US became the Episcopalian Church. So there is no state church in America. If American Protestants want to become Catholic or Orthodox it's up to them as individuals.
I think part of the religious tradlarper resurgence was the failure of the secular "alt-right" to make much headway politically. Believe it or not, at the start of the alt-right "Jesus camp" conservatives were seen as an embarrassing remnant of Bush era conservatism that they were explicitly rejecting. Then it kind of snuck its way back in. I think the obsession of "nofap" on 4chan was emblematic of this. It started as like a fun little test your willpower, the it turned into a weird bros-cience thing with claims of rewired brains and drainign you of your precious bodily fluids and making you low-test, now the mask has come fully off and it's just back to God hates porn and literal demons pervert your soul when you masturbate except now it's 20 year old groypers saying it instead of crusty old boomers.At any rate, people are attracted to a winner and the preexisting political lobbying infrastructure of the evangelical right has had clearly gotten some pretty big Ws lately that seemed like lost causes not too long ago like internet porn bans and overturning Roe v Wade. Trump's more secular first term was a wet fart and now that he has a weird evangelical cult around him and with his flood the zone strategy I think the right certainly feels like they're accomplishing...something. More than the last several decades of neoliberal stasis for the left and right at any rate.
>>18074386Look at zoomer racial demographics etc.
>>18075110>>18075127>https://crisismagazine.com/opinion/catholics-are-rapidly-losing-ground>Overall lack of enthusiasm for the faithI just don't think that's true. The Catholic Church in America has been very enthusiastic the past few years. In 2024 the first National Eucharistic Congress was held since WWII. In addition the faithful were asked to participate in pilgrimage walks accompanying the Blessed Sacrament to Indianapolis from four parts of the country. That had never happened before. And just this year in 2025 the first American has been elected to the Papacy. I think we have yet to see what shall occur over the long term.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eucharistic_congress#List_of_National_Congresses
There's also been the rather curious case of Mary Wilhelmina Lancaster, a nun whose body was found to be incorrupt when she was exhumed in May 2023. Even before that I would say it was out of the ordinary that she lived to the age of 95 years old despite her childhood in the Jim Crow South. As far as I know it is the first time any body in the USA has been incorrupt and it does make her a candidate for sainthood.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Wilhelmina_Lancaster
Still heavily down compared to 2014 with very few countries gaining ground according to that article.
>>18075180Simple as.
>>18074386Liberalism is gay and retarded, people are pining for literally anything else. Why wouldn't they turn their back on the belief system that made America such a faggy unlivable shithole.
>>18074565we get it, your worldview is 100% downstream of your genitalia and your ideological position is whatever allows you to coom harder
>>18075493NTA but it's quite evident that you're sexually complexed
>>18074386>import millions of africans/south americansWOW, Christianity is saved!!! HALLELUJA PRAISE THA LAWD!!!>expose millions of africans/south americans to western culture for 1/2 generationsWTF Christianity is dying.... It's over.... The Apocalypse is coming...
>>18075493Bro, stop jerking off because you have ED at 26, not because Jesus is ashamed of you.
>>18075183>Catholic pilgrimage ends in Brownsville, TexasA little on the nose, isn't it?
>>18075506you replied to my only post ITT so I can only take it that you're projecting
>>18074642>Not even Nazis would have used FPV drone gore as propagandakek
>>18074990We will still be around, bio weapon
>>18075532I always read the last few posts first, because that's the active part in a thread
>>18075519Kek Catholicism is niggerpilled
>>18075155The online right has been so lobotomized compared to the 2010s that the only explanation has to be third world access to the internet and using christendom as a means of inclusion in white society.
>>18074477Jesus, Paul, and the early church fathers literally promote antinatalism.Where did Christians get the idea that their religion is somehow connected to childbirth? Essenism. The Essenes were extremely reluctant to reproduce, as they expected the end of the world. Essenism = Christianity The Romans said that Christians were promoting anti-life.This is a very depressing religion. Essentially, the imperfection of the world is not blamed on the demiurge, but on people (the first sin), and the world cannot be corrected until a heavenly Jerusalem arrives in the form of a cube.
>>18075544Your fertility rate begs to differ. Both you and your (((Amalekite))) cousins are going extinct.
>>18074408This. Christianity is climbing for the same reason Islam is climbing.
>>18074386Because we are all being genocided in our own countriesShared trauma = Shared identity
>>18074427Humanistic ethics and progress: The promise is to build a more ethical and just society based on reason, compassion, and human dignity, arguing that secular societies can change and improve over time in ways that rigid religious rules might prevent. Freedom and autonomy: A core promise is individual freedom, including the freedom to choose one's own beliefs and practices without coercion, as well as the liberty to shape personal and societal values and goals. Secular governance: It promises to separate the state from religious institutions to ensure neutrality, preventing religious dogma from dictating public policy and guaranteeing equal rights for all citizens, regardless of their religion. Earthly fulfillment: It focuses on achieving happiness, meaning, and fulfillment in the here and now, through human relationships, achievements, and the pursuit of knowledge, rather than relying on promises of an afterlife.
>>18075540Surely you can dig up some Nazi propaganda snuff films and battlefield suicide reels that were released to the public or championed by their agents for the express purpose of demoralization.Oh wait, you can't. It simply does not exist.Not a problem for us though, because since then humanity has somehow morally degenerated even further. You truly don't understand the sentiments of mid 20th century people, the vast majority of whom would never accept such a state of affairs. Having been so desensitized by mass media that you take it all in without blinking. What a complete failure for humanity as a whole that this travesty goes unrecognized.
>>18075540The Nazis NEVER openly celebrated murder
>>18074386Two main reasons, I think.>1When times get bad, when people feel hopeless, they turn to religion. The world is in a bad state and it's getting worse. This increases people's need for religion as a source of comfort.>2Atheism, and the criticism of most mainstream religions, has become trite. Whereas before their arguments were hitting, now people are beginning to crow skeptical of them. I think a lot of people now see that atheism has no solution to morality or how we should live well, and also is just as assertive as religion. Declaring that every spiritual event is wrong and everything is purely material and be purely understood by some hairless apes is just as big of a claim as any major world religion.
>>18075599>Where did Christians get the idea that their religion is somehow connected to childbirth?The church that survived retconned Paul. 1 Timothy 2:15, "But women will be saved through childbearing—if they continue in faith, love and holiness with propriety."
>>18074390>>18074400>>18074411It’s immigration, you dumbass faggots
>>18075843ye
>>18075599>Jesus, Paul, and the early church fathers literally promote antinatalism.100%The steelman is that they thought the world was ending in their generation. The truth is probably that they don't want us goyim to have kids.Plenty of christian denominations throughout history have been anti-natalist btw, not just the early ones.>Where did Christians get the idea that their religion is somehow connected to childbirth?Survivorship bias.
>>18074386Mostly from catholic spic immigration
>>18074508This makes no sense at all. Christians would be far more likely to want to invade the middle east to defend the poor oppressed christcucks. Market it as a new crusade.
>>18075155>>18075562This. Its literally just christcuck shills and their coping. It is a shame that they did manage to kill the neopagan movement though.
>>18075078Not even remotely true. For every 100 new papists, more than 800 people leave the Church. Of those 800 people 112 become Protestant. Papist lose more people to religious switch than all Protestant traditions combined. And when you look at all "Protestant" traditions (as loosely defined by the survey) taken together, out of all people surveyed who were raised in those traditions only 2% of them now identify as papist. On the other hand of those raised in Roman Catholic households 14% became Protestant. Percentage-wise, there are 7x more cradle Catholics who become Protestant than there are cradle Protestants who become Roman Catholic. >protestants becoming orthodox. Less than one percent of cradle papists and Protestants become orthodox. While 7% of cradle orthodox become protestant and 2% become Roman Catholics. You’re just being delusional which is being fed by personal anecdotes and social media algorithms.
>>18077184>For every 100 new papists, more than 800 people leave the Church.There is zero proof of that statistic. PEW statistics show a flat-lining around 20% that has remained constant for about the past decade. When you consider that even the largest mainstream American Protestant denominations like the Episcopal church only represent 1% of the American population, it is entirely possible for Protestants to become Catholic without having a large effect on the overall numbers.https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2025/03/04/10-facts-about-us-catholics/
>>18074487No, it was formerly Marxist Jews
>>18077210There is proof for it. https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2025/02/26/religious-switching/
>>18074894none of these words are in the teachings of Christ you larping hypocrite
>>18077229Kek maybe Francis kissed nigger feet for a reason
>>18077229Religious switching is different than the overall number of believers.
>>18075180nope
>>18077244>import catholics from south america>their kids leave the church
>>18075838>It simply does not exist.nazis razed villages full of civilians and celebrated afterwards. the fact that they don't have videos of it used for propaganda is not an argument for their moral superiority. i don't disagree with the other takes in your original post though and the overarching point - gore would probably not be used by any side as propaganda, for the same reason porn wasn't as accessible and vulgar as it is now - access to technology and internet. but if the nazi army were to be active today, it would user the FPV footage 100%. the public facade of "neatness" with a bloodbath happening behind the curtains is very marginally better than it being out in the open morally speaking. you could even make an argument that its worse - the pretense of civility while you commit atrocities is more sinister.
>>18077912>nazis razed villages full of civilianshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dehousing
>>18078176how does this refute my argument? "everyone did it" is "everyone did it", not "nazis didn't do it"
>>18074386Economic downfall, religions always rises when the world is going to shit
>>18074386>Society buckles under a massive spread of degeneracy and absolute retardation>People have no clue what their purpose is in globalhomo land >Go back to what had a solid foundation of purposeYou can thank Atheists for being complete faggots
>>18078365you converted because of a social media algorithm tuned to shape your opinion on something for a profit
>>18078365> a solid foundation of purposeYou mean jewish fairytales? If religion had solid foundations it wouldn't be abandoned to begin with.
>>18078368No>>18078372Also no Thanks for playing
>>18078365Remember to thank your elders in faith.
>>18078418Arriba España!
>>18078418>The most Jewish man alive is stapling himself to the church Even if the church wasn't compromised (it is), nobody rational is going to look at this muppet and go "HE'S RIGHT! THANK YOU, BEN SHMEUL SHAPIRO!". You either become a Zionist Christian (because that's the only ones who would actually watching this guy), or you be (You) and actually throw the religion out because of this well poisoning stooge.
>>18074411Nice disingenuous rhetoric there.the CIA must be paying you handsomely.
Imagine approaching any priest or pastor on the planet and telling them the minority family needs to be excommunicated because the church is supposed to be about strengthening community.
>>18078469Good. Christianity has no place for anti-semites like you. We are for Judeo-Christian values stand united with Israel.
>>18078494Kuso....filthy gaijin baka...
>>18078469>rationalPeople aren't rational, so your point is moot.It's weird seeing christfags cling to such an enlightenment idea. You really are just the fedoras of yesteryear.
>>18078597Nothing weird about it, when testimony comes to you that defies all other reasoning. That's the beauty, God isn't inactive.
>>18078636>when testimony comes to you that defies all other reasoning.See, you're both appealing to reason and rejecting it simultaneously. It's kafkaesque.
>>18078685The reason is there, "other" doesn't exclude all reasoning.
>>18074386It's because the Elites are cutting the cord on the plebs and are planning on making everyones lives unlovably awful with 14 hour work days and mass poverty. Religion is a good way of getting people to put up with being treated like crap by telling them theyll be rewarded for it once they've died being crushed by factory machinery at the ripe age of 35. This is why they're pushing religion hard on social media now.
>>18074386>Death of Intelectualism as a popular way to live your life because it's increasingly hard.>Science, by way of; you can easily be wrong, and it gets very complicated, is not innately appealing to any human.>The more advanced we get, the less people want to even start on that path because it makes them feel small and insecure.>So you get alternatives, where they can feel they're an 'expert' in 'the actual facts'.Unironically, the success of Trump, who literally coined the term "alternative facts", has hastened this, as it's validated the idea that if you insist 1+1=3 enough, it somehow becomes right.So religions, which we can demonstrably prove are made up, with narratives that make more sense if they're just popular cult movements, and feature 'facts' that we can prove aren't remotely correct, or are just headcanon, are getting popular again. Because science is too hard, being objectively wrong about reality is 'valid', and criticizing or rightfully ridiculing this behavior is seen as anything from offensive, to cringe, to sociopolitical wrongthink.
