I asked ChatGPT to rank the top 5 European nations in each category in terms of historical contributions. Then create an "aggregate" ranking. I told it to include Ireland in Great Britain, Austrian and Swiss Germans under Germany, Ukrainians and Belarussians under Russia, as well as a separate category for Jews>Science & Math (revised top 5)1. Germany (Leibniz, Gauss, Riemann, Hilbert, Planck, Heisenberg)2. Great Britain (Newton, Maxwell, Darwin, Dirac, Turing, Hamilton, Boole)3. Jewish (Einstein, Noether, Born, von Neumann, Wigner, Landau, Gelfand…)4. France (Descartes, Pascal, Fermat, Laplace, Fourier, Cauchy, Poincaré, Pasteur, Curie)5. Italy (Galileo, Torricelli, Volta, Fermi, Marconi, Fibonacci)>Philosophy & Humanities 1. Greece (Socrates, Plato, Aristotle; Herodotus, Thucydides)2.Germany (Kant, Hegel, Schopenhauer, Nietzsche, Heidegger)3. Jewish (Judea/Israel) (Moses Maimonides, Spinoza, Marx, Freud, Husserl, Buber, Arendt, Benjamin)4.France (Montaigne, Descartes, Rousseau, Voltaire, Sartre, Foucault, Derrida)5. Great Britain (Hobbes, Locke, Berkeley, Hume, Smith, Bentham, Mill, Russell)>Art & Music1. Italy (Giotto, Leonardo, Michelangelo, Raphael; Monteverdi, Vivaldi, Verdi, Puccini)2. Germany (Bach, Mozart, Haydn, Beethoven, Schubert, Wagner, Brahms, Mahler, Strauss)3. France (Monet, Manet, Degas; Debussy, Ravel, Berlioz)4. Spain (Velázquez, Goya, Picasso, Dalí; Albéniz, Falla, Granados)5. Russia (Repin, Kandinsky, Malevich; Glinka, Tchaikovsky, Mussorgsky, Stravinsky, Prokofiev, Shostakovich)>Engineering & Technology (revised top 5)1.Great Britain (Watt, Stephenson, Brunel; Babbage, Turing; Whittle)2. Germany (Siemens, Diesel, Benz, Daimler; Zuse; von Braun)3. France (Montgolfier; metric system; Eiffel; Ariane)4.Russia (Tsiolkovsky; Korolev; aviation/space/heavy industry)5. Jewish (von Neumann, Szilard, Teller, Kármán; Oppenheimer; Weizmann ; modern Israeli tech ecosystem)
>Aggregate ranking (points: 1st=5, 2nd=4, 3rd=3, 4th=2, 5th=1)1. Germany — 172. Great Britain — 103. France — 104. Jewish — 75. Italy — 66. Greece — 57. Russia — 38. Spain — 2
>>18075134Seems pretty reasonable. The only complaint I have is Netherlands not making top five in art
You just made up a Jewish category to sneak them into every top 5 and then simp for Germany by absorbing Austria (Mozart, Haydn, Wittgenstein) and Switzerland (Euler, Jung).
>>18075134>Germans AND Jews dominateI predict this will cause seething
>>18075134Genuinely think france should be above jews in science and philosophy.No mention of kelvin in sciences
>>18075134Not a fan of AI but this is surprisingly reasonable
>>18075134More or less what you'd expect. Italy should have made engineering tho
>>18075153Why would I simp for Germans and Jews? Austrians are Germans the same way Bavarians and Prussians are Germans.
>>18075134>European nations>Jewish???
It's the 21st century unc, europe has no tech companies and it's universities are no longer on the cutting edge this is like watching muslims talk about the islamic golden age lmao.
>>18075211I agree with you. I think the European spirit and civilization is dead, and the future belongs to China.
>>18075134I'm pretty sure all Einstein did was put together ideas into a theory while Poincare actually did the heavy lifting work of thinking up the idea of relativity
>>18075199Certainly not because he used the 17th century definition of a nation being a people living under a distinct code of law.
>>18075238That's how science and engineering work.
>>18075244Are you saying Einstein is not a scientist ?
>>18075244Engineering isnt just vague ideas though?
>>18075134shitberia bros our response?
Wonder how much it would change with literature added to the art category.
>>18075134WW2 was an epic struggle between the two supreme races
>>18075319And also italy and russia were there!
>>18075262France Great Britain Russia GermanyItaly?
>>18075135>>18075134>Germany firstThat's how you know your ranking isn't serious.Also engineering shouldn't be separated from science.
>>18075410Spain literature is well above Russia and Germany obviously you mongoloid.Spain had Cervantes and Lope de Vega when the two others had yet to produce a decent literary work
>>18075246No, I'm saying that all work done in science and engineering builds directly on previous work done by other people. It's why they attempt to cram almost everything in their field into people's heads in university.>>18075431Engineering isn't a scientific discipline - their results are reliably reproducible.
>>18075437I disagree
>>18075437German literature produced Kafka, if nothing else. And Goethe's Die Leiden des Jungen Werthers is the ancestor of the YA novel, as much as he hated the fact.
>>18075472Kafka wasn't even an ethnic German but a Jew.>>18075461I mean I personally prefer Japanese literature to Russian one but I'm not delusional enough to think the former is better than the latter.
>>18075494>Kafka wasn't even an ethnic German but a Jew.And the USA is a nation without a Volk, yes.
>>18075494I dont see how cervantes is greater thanDystovesky, Tolstoy, Chekhov, Gogol and Bulgakov combined
>>18075520Cervantes, Teresa de Avila, John of the Cross, Lope de Vega, Calderon de la Barca are.And Gogol was a hohol
>>18075134>>18075135>I asked ChatGPT kill yourself pajeet faggot
>>18075211ASML, IMEC, ABB, KUKA, Zeiss, STmicroelectronics, Infineon, Bosch, Nokia, Liebherr…
>>18075134ChatGPT is not some amazing arbiter of truth. It's data still come from people with all their biases. Especially when you're talking about non-quantifiable subjects art or philosophy. You basically just got a list of the famous people, not list of people with the most important "historical contributions".You're already wrong with your premise, when you talk about nations. These people in history weren't members of nations. Those labels were artifically applied retroactively.
>>18075472It's always hilarious to me when germs want to claim Kafka as "their" writer. Same fucking people who burned his books and murdered his family. You would have also murdered him had he not been already dead.
>>18075709All Germans did that
>>18075701obviously what matters here is ethnicity. But I didn't want to be lectured by the AI about how that's evil and racist etc. so just worked around it by using "Nation", i.e. a people
>>18075709Just a reminder that antifascist thought crimes are not being persecuted by the German government right now.
>>18075829Such as?
>>18075151Its because music and visual arts are put together. Those Spanish composers arent all that great anyway, and it groups Austrians with Germs lol.>>Art & Music
>>18075134>Moses as a serious figureHow come the Italians don't have Vulcan?
>>18076007It groups Eastern-Empire-ers with Germans because they are Germans lol. Just ask Mozart"Deutschland, mein geliebtes Vaterland" (Germany, my beloved Fatherland)
>>18075134As a frenchman my favorite scientists is probably Lagrange, he said "Screw I can't bring myself to use newtonian mechanics, it's english" so he created lagrangian physics to stop this humiliation and he named L (stands for Lagrange) the symbol for force (F in newtonian mechanics)
>>18076312Can't beat Goethe, who cast disbelieve upon prismatic refraction and rainbows.
>>18075134Why have Pakistanis contributed more to humanity than Volga Tartars? Are Volga Tartars extremely inbred?
>>18076402How many Volga tatars were there?
>>18076312Rent free
>>18075134Europe has not future , its going to be a deindustrialized continent
>>18075134Napoleon
>>18075134Interesting. Most of the jews on your list are ashkenazi jews from Germany.