How come "One of the most venerated Islamic intellectual figures" wrote about Muhammad being raped in the desert by black people?Surely something like this would warrant execution and eternal damnation, no?
>>18077313Sisters... the isnād is sound...
>>18077313It completely buckbroken muzzies on /pol/ you can check it
Is this the "splitting of the moon" I've heard so much about?
>>18077331The funny part is now they’re coping about it really being a story about how he was fighting djinn. So. Desert demons. That was what it was about. Sure.
>>18077313Where can I read more about this?
>>18078001zutted.com
They were crowding around him to hear the word of God
>>18078115>can't write out the argument in text>instead, there's a basedjak I've seen here before and a youtube videowhy is the internet like this these days?
>>18078118Why would he come back in pain from what they had done to him then?Either Muhammad got raped in the desert or a bunch of black people beat him up after he tried to read the Quran to them.
>>18078001On the fucking image? It's literally there.
>>18078153Not a good look either way
>>18077313You'd be surprised to learn there are two other hadiths in which Muh got raped. One by his uncle (strongly implied), and one by a djinn.
>>18078203Post them.
>>18078205https://www.reddit.com/r/exmuslim/comments/182j20x/more_evidence_on_muhammad_being_sx_abused_as_atrying to find the other one
he was gay, lil moe moe?
>>18077313Because the arabic word they reference to doesn't actually mean rode
>>18078238Yarkab literally means ride though. Yarkab al daraga -> rides the bicycle
>>18078457The whole thing means to follow someone. And even if it was ride they literally have no dicks according to the report so your sick implication doesn't exist
>>18078484You're coping hard KEK. Surely it's the obscure meaning of the word yarkab and not the normal usage. The funny thing is that even if the hadith was about the zutt following him around, the imagery still would be hilarious as fuck.
>>18078237NOBODY'S GETTIN' ZUTTED! I DONT WANNA HEAR DAT WORD ON DIS BOARD AGAIN
>>18077313Where are the doujins
>>18078540>obscure meaningIt's literally not, fucking read the thing faggot. I know you like to read into everything your homosexual fantasies but it's just not there. They didn't even have dicks so you have nothing to fantasize about >>>/lgbt/
Sounds like lil moe moe got used as a meat pin cushion by some brothas
Why do Pagans call you retarded for not worshipping Penis statues?
>>18078118They were crowding him to get a chance to hit his brown starfish
>>18078484So they followed him until he came back in pain..?
>>18078816>Mutthamad slept on another guys thigh in the desert and had a dinner date with black people in the desert
>>18078237Afraid so
i haven’t laughed as much as I have today when I saw that jak on the left. the expression is priceless.
>>18077313Obligatory.
Im so happy this meme is making inbred dune coons seethe. Lmao
I feel so bad for him, he had to watch his role model get anally raped by barbarians for 12 hours straight. Atleast his purity wasnt lost thanks to the cuck line
>>18078484Actually according to Arab literature, ZVTT BVLLS are famously well endowed
>>18080282Lmao holy shitMudslimes forever btfo
>>18078223Slightly weird but i don't see a strong implication of rape
>>18078237so the rumors are true?
>>18078484>they literally have no dicks according to the reportThe "report" says that the man didn't see their genitals. It doesn't say they didn't have genitals. So we're not supposed to take the word "yarkab" at it's plain and obvious meaning, but we are supposed to extrapolate that "did not see" means "did not exist". How many hoops do you have to jump through to believe Mohammad didn't take it up the ass?
>>18080622>not covered>no nakednessThis clearly implies that they had no genitals
>>18080622>so desperate he has to resort to invisible BBCsIf there are no clothes guarding them and the genitals are still not visible then it wasn't there, simple. That is in no way analogous to you ignoring the commonly used meaning of what the word means and the other reports that are more well established.
>>18077313Why did my coworker get really angry when I mentioned this to him
>>18080833He expected you to be straight so he could offer his daughter in marriage to you. Now he has to offer his son and he's already taken
>>18080629>>18080669I interpreted it as Abdullah deliberately avoiding eye contact with the penises of AL-ZUTT and was reassuring the reader that he was a good muslim for making that effort. Probably as a lesson that you shouldnt stare at the junks of others
>>18080853Ah so you admit you are dreaming of dicks. He didn't say he wasn't looking he said their genitals were not visible even when they had no clothes on. Were they women or something?
>>18080860The image in OP says, word for word, "with no clothes on (but I did not see their genitals)". Not "they didnt have genitals" or "their genitals were not visible", he is specifically talking about his sight
>he couldn't see the dark skinned men's genitals at night from a significant distance>>therefore they didn't have any!Muslim intellectuals on patrol
>>18080867Yes and? They were naked and no genitals were seen. Meaning either they were invisible or they just weren't there. Bro where are the BBCs I was promised your favorite porn category from the hadith but it just seems like it isn't there. Tell me something, when you fail to see X do you assume it's a well endowed Africanized phallus? is that how your imagination works?
>>18080873Muslims dont even exist, im not seeing any in my room right now
>>18080873>Actually the BBC was a Tiny Black Pecker!Very desperate to insert black penises into everything, are we? Show me where he says there were any genitals on them at all
>>18080876You do not have eyelids. You have never once closed your eyes in your life. Your eye muscles are completely dysfunctional and you have 10 eyes granting your 360 degree vision at all times with night vision includedYou are a mutant freak who should have been put down at birth but that doesnt mean everyone is like you, especially not Abdullah
>>18080860Say what you want, it takes some mighty big stones to talk about the story of your prophet getting ridden all night long like a sick mule by a group of melanin enhanced gentlemen and then accuse the other guy of dreaming about dicks.
>>18080881>he blinked and missed the BBC that exists only in my headNope, he was looking directly at them while they were NAKED and he still didn't see any genitals on them. They weren't there, simple explanation that requires no blacked.com membership to dream up of
>>18080884Pure headcanon. Go make your gay fanfic somewhere else, my Abdullah is pure and would NEVER look at big black dicks willingly
>>18080883I already explained there was no riding and they aren't men anyway. if you read the full thing. So can you point to me where the black penises exist in the text? No Nut November is coming up, it will help you with your addiction btw.
>>18080884>looking directly at themIt's at night in the middle of nowhere and they were more than a stone's throw away
>>18080889Yes he wouldn't indeed, unfortunately for you he was looking at these beings as they were naked so no BBCs for you. I know you're hungry for some but you will have to find some other fap material
>>18080876Or, and this is a likely explanation considering how terrified your religion is of seeing another man in the buff, the narrator wanted to make sure it was known he wasn’t staring at some other men’s twigs and berries. Or, and this is a huge stretch, it was fucking dark outside and black on black isn’t very easy to see at night. Both of these are much more plausible than the invisible dick theory you’re working so hard at.
>>18080892Yeah and? Did they have FtM clitties?
>>18080899If Mohammad got pegged by megaclits instead of cocks all night does that make it Halal?
>>18080897Wait a minute why would a tradition based on gay sex be against gay sex? Why would he be invited to watch if it was forbidden? That makes absolutely no sense.>b-but it was too dark because I say so! somehow he could see them perfectly enough to recognize they had no clothes. you'd only make that assumption if you can actually see they had nothing on
>>18080902having sex with many women is allowed, jealous?
He didn't see them because they were inserted in the prophet's every orifice
>>18080893How do we know he was looking in that area? Isn’t it forbidden to look on another man’s nakedness? You think a follower of the prophet would do such a thing?
>>18080908He was looking at them naked so he was already doing the forbidden according to you
>>18080904Yes, you can tell a person is naked from much farther away than you can make out their genitals. Doubly so in the dark. That is, of course, unless your Al-Zutt buddies are packing some massive heat.
>>18080904>he could vaguely see they did not have traditional white garments on therefore he could perfectly see tiny appendages like black dicks camouflaged in the nightMaybe muhammed didnt have confidence in walking back home alone after his ass got ripped asunder so he brought Abdullah along to carry him back
>>18080911Well I’m asking you. Wouldn’t it be forbidden for him to look at these guy’s junk regardless?
>>18080914>naked actually means you aren't nakedNope they even moved towards him, leaned around him and even got in his way, he clearly saw everything about them and yet no dicks.
>>18080922Maybe he was in a fetal position not looking at them because he was scared of them? Do you stare monsters surrounding you directly in the eye or dick?
>>18080919he was already doing the forbidden according to your logic, you know what else is forbidden? homosexual sex, nice self own idiot
>>18080925>maybehead canon, he said he saw them get in his way and then he sat down meaning the entire time he was standing>monsterssuddenly those exist but Jinn cannot? or are women monsters according to you? I know everything without a penis disgusts you but some people are actually straight
>>18080929Yes because standing up means you are unable to move your neck at all. He totally couldnt have been vaguely looking down seeing them approaching him in his peripheral vision, simply impossible. Humans eyes simply do not have this functionNaked penisless black demons who look like indians roaming the desert however? Completely realistic, happens all the time
>>18080932If he was looking down he wouldn't have been able to describe them, he clearly had a good look. Especially when they were getting in his way and leaning. As for you point on realistic things, you know what's the most ridiculous part? You believing there were roaming gangs of particularly black and lanky naked Indians with invisible yet massive schlongs that were looking to mount random Arab men in the middle of the desert as he recites to them from scripture. Can you show me other instances of this happening in history?
>>18080610'fraid sothe 92 krew gave him that pipe
>>18080979wow you know a lot about faggot groups, were you gaped by them?
>>18077313what does this mean? why were they vaginas?
>>18080994here pic
>>18078484>The whole thing means to follow someoneno it means ride or mount. It is even used in context of women at some points by Muhammad's contemporaries
>>18081003Lane's lexicon disagrees with your butchering of the Idiom. Also why do you care about context here but not elsewhere? https://www.icraa.org/jinn-crowd-in-prophet-misread-hadith/
>>18081003what is this?
>>18081017>it was once used as a metaphor that was clunky and unintuitive enough to require explanation for following someone in a different context>>therefore that is the actual complete definition of the word nowmuslims really do think arabic is a wall they can just hide behind whenever questioned
>>18081026>nooo Arabic must work like English!!>it's not clunky when I like a specific usage that ignores contextlmao, it's said that it was a common expression cope and seethe
>>18081040So you are saying that the zutt just followed lil mo very closely in the desert... naked... at night... and he came back very tired from their very close following... okay dude. That changes everything. Sure.
>>18081040>it's saidBy coping sandjeets trying to explain away their buttfucked daddy figure>it was a common expressionSo common that native speakers had to explain what was meant? The extract you yourself posted would only make sense if someone had asked>wtf do you mean by 'umar has ridden me'Or it would not exist
>>18077547kek
>>18081082yep it does, that description literally fits walking a dog you absolute moron
>>18081086>Edward William Lane (17 September 1801 – 10 August 1876) was a British orientalist, translator and lexicographer. He is known for his Manners and Customs of the Modern Egyptians and the Arabic-English Lexicon, as well as his translations of One Thousand and One Nights and Selections from the Kur-án.[1] >Lane was born at Hereford, England, the third son of the Rev. Dr Theophilus Lane, and grand-nephew of Thomas Gainsborough on his mother's side.[3] After his father died in 1814, Lane was sent to grammar school at Bath and then Hereford,[4] where he showed a talent for mathematics. He visited Cambridge but did not enrol in any of its colleges.[5]Yep that guy is surely like a "sandjeet" coping with youtube christian apologist memes you blithering idiot>hurr the existence of a thesaurus or dictionary means the words inside are not commonly used because the words/phrases are explainedI've never seen anyone more stupid on this website and that's very impressive. All this so you can keep dreaming about Indian cock ahahaha
>>18077313So this dude saw Muhammad’s pale little bussy get absolutely decimated by dozens of virile, girthy, throbbing ZVTT cocks and he still thought he was a prophet sent by god?
>>18082063I can tell you are really enjoying your imaginary cocks
>>18081861a bunch of black people dog walked mutthammad in the night?
>20+ replies of a mudslime defending his prophet getting raped by BZC (BIG ZUTT COCK)
>>18082194what are you even saying? dogs have no clothes and they will follow you for hours until you get tired
>>18082220ESL?
As a Muslim..I kneel..ZVTT cock is just too powerful..even the Prophet PBUH couldn’t resist
why can't westerners stop thinking about black cock? why do they have to describe them in so much detail?
>>18082231>sand niggers constantly write about how "well endowed" zutts (niggers) are>"why can't westerners stop thinking about black cock? why do they have to describe them in so much detail?"That was YOU
nope it was you actually why do westerners love it so much? even the slavs are not safe. everywhere you look black cock is idolized to such an extent they describe how well it throbs. I am starting to think there is a genetic basis for this fascination with Africans
>>18082220So Mohammad was tired because he had to play keep-away from his asshole all night? I don't think that's much better. He is, after all, the guy who wanted to go out there.
>>18082336>if it's not imaginary black penises it must be imaginary anuses!Literally where are you getting your homosexual nonsense from? If there was no riding then even you perverse usage inspired from modern English usage doesn't apply. The text makes it very clear they were there to listen to the recitation
>>18082079Inshallah, Muhammed enjoys them too
>>18082383Yeah dont know why other people are so confused about, its normal to be in pain after a nice session of reciting the quran to people. Thats all that happened if you exclude the gay sex
>>18082435yes it's normal to be in pain and exhausted after hours of recitation
>>18077313Can you stop spamming this shit? Noone cares or finds you being a faggot funny, timmy.
>>18082447His throat must have hurt so much after all that recitation
>>18082194keeek it keeps getting worse and worse the more he copes>>18082226you are aware that 99.9% of muslims are ESL, right?
there's just something wrong with chuddies invisible black dicks are everywhere
>>18082451abdul seethe on 4chan is already funny but just you wait until the normies catch up on the zutt truthpill
>>18082607Just because Abdullah ibn Masud pretended to not see them, doesn't mean they were invisible
>>18082451Absolutely fucking seething.
>>18082613>>18082626>seethingWhat you gonna do? Make another unfunny gay joke for the 50th time?
>>18082618>black dicks are specifically not seen in the text>b-but see they were ackhually there because black dicks are everywherewas it a witch that made them disappear?
>>18082640>What you gonna do?Keep making fun of you fuming, retard? What did you expect you 60 IQ towelhead?
>>18082641>was it a witch that made them disappear?you are asking me, you mongoloid? you are the one who claims that a bunch of apparently dickless men rode lil mo
Muslims seething right nowLil moe moe got fucked by niggers
>>18082653The question of his consent still remains however
>>18082640You can never unrape your prophet.
>>18082651Nope you're the one seeing homosexual actions when there was only recitation and following. So tell me again where are the black dicks you keep fantasizing about? Got one up your ass bro?
>>18082644How are your gay fantasies related in any way to me? This thread is a circlejerk of you making “jokes” about poopjeet dicks
>>18082673>How are your Not mine, Abdullah ibn Mas'ud's >gay fantasiesI wouldn't call them fantasies if I were a muslim... it's the prophet's closest companion's testimony you are talking about>related in any way to me?You are seething the steam out of your ass because of them, that's how kek
>he wasn't raped, what actually happened was naked men who had a genetic defect that gave them a smooth featureless crotch with no dick just wanted to hear more of his teachings>muhammad talked for so long that he was tired and in pain by the time he was doneThis is what muslims actually believe.
>>18082683This hadith has already been discussed, so lets be real here the whole point of this thread was to fantasize about dicks and buttsex
>they're totally not my gay fantasies>proceeds to describe in detail the characteristics of the black phallus he just imagined
>>18082670>only recitation and followingOh right. He just went out, in the middle of the night, to a desert where he met a bunch of naked niggers (who just happened to be there, just like that) and he recited his preaching to them, while they FOLLOWED him very CLOSELY, and he recited it so hard that it exhausted him while his friend, sitting in the back was scared shitless, of whatever was happening there... the preaching that is. Of course. It makes totally perfect sense. I guess it must happen very often among muslims to spend nights away from their wives with naked niggers, in a totally straight way discussing religion.Sure.Also I'm not your bro you dumb subhuman.
>>18082694>fantasizeSo you accuse the Prophet's (al zutt be upon him) closest companion of lying? Are you an atheist or something?
The meme has destroyed more muslims than the IDF at this point
>>18082690nowhere does it say anything about them being men though, you kinda already debunked your own argument there by proving they had djinn characteristics >muhammad talked for so long that he was tired and in pain by the time he was doneYes, its only possible to be tired from sex. Great analogy
>>18082710What was he doing then? Why was he so tired? What was abdullah so scared of?
>>18082710Your fake prophet got fudge packed. Deal with it you inbred
>>18082710>nowhere does it say anything about them being men thoughIt does, it's right there in the text >>18077313 are you illiterate?
>>18082715Each time you felt tired, was it because you got fucked in the ass? Is this a really bad attempt at rage bait or you’re just dumb
>>18082726Ok but what happened then?
>>18082718This hadith is not reliable and riding is this means according in one version of the story by Al Buhayqi it says "فازدحموا عليه" or they grouped around him. "ركبني" in this context means following something. Also if the hadith is true. Why would Muhammad bring Abdullah to ruin his reputation??? This hadith makes no sense. It shows what kind of people you are just blindly following this hadith.
>>18082721>are you illiterate?Are you? The text says “looked like” zutt people, not that they actually belonged to that group.>>18082727Its in the text
>>18082739>moves the goalpost immediatelyLOOOLSo they weren't niggers, they were... nigger clones? Or those Arabs born black all of the sudden that Lil Moe told his followers to accept? >>18080484
>>18082737>This hadith is not reliableAgain, are you accusing the Prophet's (al zutt be upon him) closest companion of lying? Why wasn't this hadith destroyed if it's a lie?>It shows what kind of people you are just blindly following this hadith.Oh, the irony
>>18082697Roaming lanky and very dark Indian homosexual rape squads in the middle of the Arabian Desert with invisible dicks makes more sense to you?>doesn't deny having a black dick up his ass but gets offended by broahahahahaha, sorry ma'am I forgot about your transition
>>18082743unfortunately for you zutts were not black mutt. If you wanna troll you have to at least know some basic stuff instead of inserting your own interracial fanfic
>>18082753>rape squadsNothing points to rape there though? All seems consensual.>with invisible dicks Might be surprising to you, but not everything you don't notice OR refuse to acknowledge, is invisible
>>18082763>zutts were not black muttYeah I bet that despite their dark skin they were actually extremely white. That changes EVERYTHING about this story.
>>18082750>are you accusing the Prophet's (al zutt be upon him) closest companion of lying?This hadith does not come from the time of Muhammad. This hadith comes from Musnad Ahmad which comes from 200 years after Muhammad. The chain does not only have Abdullah ibn Masud it has Arim And Affan > Muʿtamir from my father > Abu Tamimah > ʿAmr Laʿallah > Yakun Qad > al-Bikali > ʿAmr > Abdullah b. Masud.It is said on al bikali. Amr Al-Bakali - and his name is Abu Othman - did not prove that he heard this hadith from Ibn Mas'ud,>Why wasn't this hadith destroyed if it's a lie?Why weren’t Shia hadiths destroyed if they were a lie? Why weren’t Ibadi hadiths destroyed if they were a lie? Why weren’t the satanic verses destroyed if they were a lie? No hate to you though. I still love you <3
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>>18082779No sis there's nothing consensual according to the morons on here who believe the same things you do, the very OP says it too. If you can't see the massive schlongs you have in your head then they are invisible that's literally the definition of the word.
I was staying out of this fight until>>18082814>Why weren’t Shia hadiths destroyed if they were a lie? Shi'a ahadith tend to trace to ahlalbayt who include the Prophet, of course, but also the Imams. So they're not "lies", they just relate jurisprudence and Quran-commentary from the Imams. There was a community keeping the Imami lore alive.Also Malik from the Madina thought highly of Imam Ja'far's rulings, preserving a lot of them. In his day it looks like there was a "shiat Umar" as well, or at least Malik figured the family of 'Umar also had some good jurisprudence. He just related all of it, from both families, with respect, simply evaluating both families' laws against the sunna of the Madina in his day.So: not lies.>Why weren’t Ibadi hadiths destroyed if they were a lie? Ibadi hadiths aren't lies though. The 'Ibadiya venerate most the same Companions as Sunnis, especially 'Ammar. Maybe 'Ikrima (to pick on one) was too extremist for Sunnis today but his ahadith are widely disseminated in Sunni collections and tafasir.>Why weren’t the satanic verses destroyed if they were a lie?That's a question which Shahab Ahmed ("Before Orthodoxy") answered pretty well: the story was entertaining. It made the Prophet look like a hero fighting the demons. Christian literature has a lot of this too for our own saints.The Zutt story though... we're still waiting for a coherent Muslim answer. We can (well, Ahmed could) see the value in the Satanic Verses. It's a good story! and in the end, Satan does not win, the Prophet fends off the bad verses.But in the Zutt story, Muhammad just limps back home on Ibn Mas'ud's arm with a dripping ringpiece.
>>18082737Go suck and fuck a zutt you inbred
>>18082890>for our own saintsIf Muslims have to explain a hadith we reject then Christians have to explain the missing cum gospel, and unlike your fantasy this one involves actual kinky semen play
>>18082890and don't worry we can put a weird sexual spin even on your canon
>>18083018>a hadith we rejectWho is "we"? Certainly not sunni islam as a whole. Replying with some inane ramblings about niche sect is utter nonsense.
>>18083018[I'm this guy >>18082890 again]Borborites sound like some Egyptian cult from that quote. There's a legend their creator spanked one off in other to create the universe. Because women hadn't been invented yet. So this story you quoted makes sense as devolving Egyptian divinity onto Christ.But there's no hint of this in any New Testament or Apostolic tradition. Compare hints at traditions about Peter in 2 Clement.Not only is this "niche" >>18083060, but the one time a mainline ("saint") does notice this, it's to mock it. Even pagans like Celsus and Porphyry didn't raise it as a serious doctrine.Contrast Zutt where Muslims just quote it until deep in the Middle Ages, when some Muslims have to scurry around trying to deny it.
>>18083199Doesn't matter if it's to mock it. Even this particular report is classified as "strange" but that doesn't matter for some reason. The very fact it exists means you must accept it just like you are imposing this on us. It even has a super deep meaning which makes it a great story!
Muslims are faggots and most of them smell
>>18083229Pure cope. The hadiths are *vital* to islam. Non cannonical "gospels" have never been part of any christian church lol
>>18083337Blame Muhammed for not teaching them about soap, they just splash water on themselves to clean. They also gargle water held from their unwashed hands, they are one step away from being indians
>>18083199Good post. Its hilarious they bring up non cannonical "gospels" lmao. The whole point of those is that 1500 years ago christians knew there was lots of BS and fakes out there so they looked at it and tossed it. Islam never had any self inquiry, so the quaran and hadiths all must be true, the word of god!Long story short, moe moe was a fag
>muhhamed (pajeets be upon him) getting "mounted" by naked tall dark jeets in the desert then coming back in pain makes muslims leak so hard they start spamming cuck images to copegeeeeeg
>>18080282surely muhhamed was getting followed/mounted on by dark skinned tall naked men (who are aparently described as supposedly having "very large penises" in arab historical sources ) late at night in the desert in a innocent fashion and nothing gay happened to make him come back crawling in pain after being "followed"/"mounted" all night long, i mean his companion didnt see their penises in the desert night so it must be okOnly a shittedfag westoid cvck would imply otherwise (even doe they were jeets and not niggers), : )
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>>18083396>he's referencing 2 updoot quora posts now
>>18083349Don't care, if our rejection is irrelevant then your rejection is irrelevant. Can you explain to me why you believe in a cum eating deity??
Even if we granted it was authentic, it still wouldn’t support your argument:1: It refers to jinn, not humans.2: Whether nude or not, they have no genitals.3: The word yarkaboun is used incorrectly.4: The narrator himself (Abd Allah ibn Masuud) stated in another authentic hadith that he wasn’t even with the Prophet that night.5: The hadith isn’t even authentic, it’s a fabricated addition.
>>18083688>Even if it was authentic, it isn’t authentic.So after two days of fighting tooth and nail to try to get us to believe words don’t mean what they actually mean, your next move is, “It’s just a fake, guys!”. If it wasn’t a real Hadith, why wouldn’t you have started with that instead of fighting over the wording like your life depended on it?
>>18083786The hadith can be inauthentic and also have a completely different meaning from what is being argued nonetheless. You have low iq if you don't realize how both of these statements can be true.
>>18083229>it doesn't matter what's true and what's false, I only care about spreading hate to soothe my butthurtIslam in a nutshell everyone
>>18083432Lmao seething inbred
>>18080876he meant it in the sense of no homo dude