any of you can trace your ancestry back to Norman knights? i can.
i can trace my ancestry to a gypsy guy who fought a bear at the village square and to another guy who got captured by the russian army during ww1, was presumed dead, and then came back 7 years later so that he could beat his family and fail to build russian indoor heating in his house until he died. and that's basically it. i know some of my gypsy ancestors were among the wealthiest and most popular gypsy smiths in my country but i don't really know anything about them.
>>18079210I can do you one better. If you have a gateway ancestor that leads to any of the children of Edward III, you have a documented lineage through his wife Philippa of Hainault to Alexios Angelos III, Bohemond of Antioch, and Baldwin II of Jerusalem.
>>18079210I can. On two sides. Three lines.Enough that I would imagine it's fairly common. But desu most people I know have peasant/artisan names so maybe it's rare.
My wife is a descendant of William the Conqueror and has a claim to an estate in England should like a handful of people suddenly die. I’m the most hon hon French nigger who’s ever been going back 300 years.
>>18079210Most people of English descent can. Ancestry branches a LOT by the time you get to the Norman conquest. If you mean by a more direct paternal lineage, then that's a lot more rare.
>>18079288> Most people of English descent can. i am Scottish (well scots-irish) American
>>18079288Correct. For instance, William the Conqueror is one of my 31st Great Grandparents. The hard math says that if I was only descended from every one of my ancestors going back to that generation one time, that would be over 2 billion individual ancestors. Obviously we know that's not how it works and pedigree collapse means you're likely to be descended from certain people many, many times over. The trick is just being lucky enough to be able to prove a long and winding lineage that leads to someone who is already well documented historically.
william is also of norman descent my family (scots) was norman, we were traitors who helped arrest william.
>>18079321Statistically, you're probably very English too. Everywhere the Scotch-Irish settled was also heavily settled by the English. English Americans dropped their identity a lot faster than all other European Americans, calling themselves just Americans, so despite being the largest ethnic group in America, few will actively say they're of English descent.
>>18079210In my most prestigious genealogical line, I can trace my ancestry to James V of Scotland through an illegitimate daughter of Sir James Sinclair, 1st Baronet of Dunbeath. So yes. I give it a 7/10 likelihood. I have other lines that are more likely through Campbell lords in Argyll that go to James IV.Also this in every other case I’ve found a gateway ancestor or a plausible gateway ancestor >>18079269.If you find any nobility in your tree, you’re gonna find a Norman knight eventually.
>>18079321Many genealogists and statisticians accept that all people or predominant British descent are almost certainly a descendant of Edward III, including Scots. For Scots, it’s highly probable to be a descendant of Edward III through the Beaufort daughters that married Scottish kings and nobility. Then there are the many non-royal Norman marriages into Scotland and the many Norman knights and landowners that also came to Scotland and settled. A lot of the noble families, including some highland families, claim direct male line descent from Normans.
>>18079210Apparently I'm a Brythonic Celt on both sides of my family. Same phenotype as King Arthur.
>>18079534Is that a fancy way of saying you're Welsh?