why did the GI Generation have so many heart attacks?
leaded fuels, asbestos, cigarettes, asbestos in cigarettes, and being morally unable to divorce their horrid wives
>>18080054Cigarette epidemic. Smoking really took off in the 1920s when mass produced cigs became a thing, while in earlier times you had to smoke a large clumsy cigar. You notice heart disease rates have diminished since smoking has become less common.
Three presidents (FDR, Ike, and LBJ) died due to the direct or indirect effects of smoking.
>>18080080no physical proof of their deaths and LBJ died upon witnessing the revelations of the Zutt
>>18080080Could add Grant for a fourth as well.
>Eisenhower suffered a major heart attack on September 23, 1955. There were not yet any defibrillators in the '50s or heparin and no scanning methods outside an EKG. Nitroglycerine and morphine existed but no aspirin or stents. The president managed to recover in spite of the limited treatment options available then and announced that he would seek a second term next year. Defibrillation was first proposed only a year after Eisenhower's heart attack when Paul Zoll wrote in the New England Journal of Medicine about the possibility of applying electric shocks to a patient's heart to stop atrial fibrillation.[9]
>>18080108Eisenhower quit smoking before running for president but I guess any damage done to him was already there.
>>18080054Cigarettes
>>18080054Cigarettes but also widespread alcohol, red meat and lard consumption. Pre-WW2 westerners really liked their beer, bacon and lard
PTSD overeating and chain smoking, which could now be afforded by most of the population, mayo and less medical tech>>18080264>red meat and lardit was seed oil
>>18080058>being morally unable to divorce their horrid wivesWas a legal thing also as needed cause for divorce.
americans still use mayo in place of butter on their sandwiches, probably jewish influence due to jews being lactose intolerant
>>18080058>>18080303>NOOO I WON'T MEET MY 1950S TRADWIFE ON THE TRAIN TO SMALL TOWN AMERICA, TALK TO HER ABOUT DEEP LIFE TOPICS IN A CYNICAL TONE LIKE A 40S NOIR MOVIE THEN FIND WE WANT TO MEET UP OVER AND OVER BEFORE OUR FRIENDS START SAYING "WHEN ARE YOU GONNA MARRY HER" THEN LIVE AN IDYLLIC LIFE WITH HER IN A WHITE PICKET FENCE SUBURB>I WON'T RAISE 5 KIDS WITH HER GOING TO SEE THE LATEST WHOLESOME UNPOZ'D DISNEY MOVIES AND CARTOONS EXHIBITING AUTHENTIC WHITE ANGLO CULTURE, SIGNING UP LITTLE JIMMY FOR THE LITTLE LEAGUE AND SUMMER CAMP AND SEEING THEM GROW UP IN A NORMAN ROCKWELL PAINTING>I JUST WON'T.. OK? I REFUSE, LE 50S WERE LE HECKIN' BADDERINOimagine the lifelong brainwashing needed to arrive at this point
>>18080314there’s no brainwashing needed because the drivel you just posted never existed in the first place. marriages have sucked, suck, and will continue to suck for the vast majority of people. your coca-cola advertisement of a perspective of marriage in the 1950s is delusional.
>>18080307Actually those who claim to be Jews have nothing to do with the ancient or biblical Jews. Therefore, they aren't really properly referred to as "Jews," but only "those who claim to be" or who identify as Jews.
>>18080384ah yes, quite true, if they were true jews as desert nomads they would surely be able to digest lactose like the white man
>>18080380No one says everything was le perfect. But it's about the ideals society tried to enforce. Compare that to today's toxic culture Today it's nothing but browns and buttsex
>>18080314If you were old enough to know people , as just people, who lived in that time as parents you would know that none of this was true. The food was frequently TV dinners or just absolute shit cooking. The houses were made of ticky tacky like they are now but somehow worse and were about 1,000 square feet. They also all cheated on each other and most of them even if they didn't go to Church didn't actually believe in God or the Bible but they just wanted to do something together on sunday. Like a poor version of mad men.
>>18080380yeh but you still always hear of the stories about the couple who were high school sweethearts had 4 kids and died at 93 within a week of each other so clearly truly love does exist for some.
>>18080380>no one was ever happy
>>18081048i'm sorry your grandparents were alcoholics who molested your dad since age 6 but that's between him and his therapist
>>18081048anyone who thinks thot culture is a modern invention is wrong, it began in the 1920s and 50s women's magazines were always saying how it was ok to cheat sometimes
>>18081183is being contractually obligated to another person by threat of state force where you derive your happiness?
>>18081048I would argue the average person follows the morals and ideals of the 1950s moreso today than they did back then… Zoomers are the most sexless, least materialistic generation of all time. I interact with boomers quite frequently and they’re always amazed (and I amazed of them) at how closed in Zoomers are.
>>18081199>I would argue the average person follows the morals and ideals of the 1950s moreso today than they did back then… Zoomers are the most sexless, least materialistic generation of all timethat's the total opposite of 50s ideals.>sexlessthey called it the "baby boom" years for a reason and not because everyone was an aescetic monk>least materialisticalso as far removed from the 50s as it could get. everyone had been starved after 20 years of war and depression and they wanted to own shit.
>>18080054Seed oils.https://raypeat.com/articles/articles/unsaturated-oils.shtml Q: You say vegetable oils are hazardous to your health. What vegetable oils are you talking about? Mainly, I'm referring to basedbean oil, corn oil, safflower oil, canola, sesame oil, sunflower seed oil, palm oil, and any others that are labeled as "unsaturated" or "polyunsaturated." Almond oil, which is used in many cosmetics, is very unsaturated. Chemically, the material that makes these oils very toxic is the polyunsaturated fat itself. These unsaturated oils are found in very high concentrations in many seeds, and in the fats of animals that have eaten a diet containing them. The fresh oils, whether cold pressed or consumed as part of the living plant material, are intrinsically toxic, and it is not any special industrial treatment that makes them toxic.
>>18080301Your graph just proves that there's 0 correlation between seed oil and heart disease.
>>18081519The peak of heart attacks was in the 60s and it declined after that, clearly it was something else causing it.
>>18080314Nothing is "trad" about the makeup job or showing calves.
>>18081490I said ideals, not reality. You have retards in this thread acting like the 50s were such a heckin traditional christian white anti-consumerist paradise as portrayed by hot dog ads.
>>18081519Lard became like seed oils since the fatty acid composition of lard is dependent on the pig's diet. It turns out farmers have been using basedbeans and other high seed oil foods for pigs for a while now. A lot of junk "scientific studies" with this seed oil lard were produced which wrongly vilified saturated fat because it was assumed that lard was saturated fat. Whenever proper controls are used, saturated fat always ends up being the healthiest. Coconut oil is one of the most saturated oils available and animal studies find nothing but benefits.
>>18080314This is actually a 60s and not a 50s photo from her haircut. 50s hair was short and cropped.
>>18081546>s.oybean filter is active here tooWhat is the point?
>>18080054Seed oils. Then they learnt how to treat heart disease, so the deaths dropped.
>>18081048boomers got the way they did for a reason
>>18080380Marriage is a ripoff, just hire hookers instead.
>>18081537t. Abdul
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>>18080314That's a professional model, bro.
>>18080314it really is funny watching incels get upset at supposed propaganda saying the 50s were bad, only to watch them consoom propaganda that says they were le good. they have no self-awareness
>>18080314>advertising for product to get you excited for next product
>>18080380How do marriagecucks cope with this?
>>18082941>41%>almost 50%The fucking state.
>>18082941Is there anything more humiliating than marriage?>you want to spend time doing shit you want, but society tells you to work like a dog for Mr. Shekelwitz so you can attract a glorified prostitute>you want to fuck lots of hot young chicks, but society tells you you need to be faithful and be a monogamous man ideally with someone your own age or older, of course the flip side of this is any woman you’re with can and will fuck other dudes and there is little or nothing you can practically do about it without looking like a cuck and/or losing 1/2 your shitSeriously marriagecucks deserve everything they get. Stay single and just hire hookers when you need to nut.
>>18082954So edgy. Craaaaaaawling iiiiin my skiiiiiiin.
When woman wanted economic safety (that money), she married and a man supported her, she tied him with kids, everything worked.
>>18082962Yeah but women reject that. They do want a man to take care of them, but they also don't want to sleep with just that man which is what marriage was.Women working was enticing because it allowed sexual freedom without the consequence of being undesirable by men which were needed to survive when women could not work.So now we have the problem of women wanting to have that husband figure again but being unable to have one because of their financial success and or cock racket.It's a humorous reality of self-defeat, women are truly more adapted to tribal settings where keeping track of who's daddy was harder and being a stealth whore was far easier.In civilization they simply either have to stick with one guy until their vagina scream boredom or they be "free womyn" and find themselves lonely.Meanwhile tribal life for men was horrendous.
>>18082954lemme guess. you're a:>atheist/neopagan>libertarian/fascist
I recently read some statistic that sounded crazy, but the more I thought about it, was probably realistic. Something like 10% of children born in wedlock are not the child of the married husband. So many married women are whores.
>>18082979>10%Yeah I've heard that statistic, it was in some place where it made sense though, France I think? Either way yeah it's basically biologically true.The reason being is women basically lost a lot of "ability" with sexual dimorphism, such as muscle mass, likely in favor reproduction (because of how complex humans are) while men picked up primary survival roles.This gave men the rare ability to actually select women and so the two selective pressures conflicted. It gave women an incentive to keep male attention, leading to higher sex practices and selecting men based on their effectiveness at being providers.But this newer instinct was sacrificing the older ones' penchant for picking the most physically attractive, aggressive male. So how did women resolve this? Get one male to take care of them, then at peak ovulation fuck another male. Then return to said provider male and continue fucking him. Chances are, the baby will be the other male. She got her desired genes, and her desired "father" at his expense.This is why if you're a guy who's aware that he's fucking married women you'll notice they almost schizophrenically reject you after the fact and find yourself unable to actually convince them to leave their husbands who they all of a sudden love deeply again. It's like they get possessed by an ancient whore ape for a short period and then go back to normal once their bodies think they've succeeded.
>>18082987I've fucked married women that I didnt know were married. First one should have been obvious. She was always asking to see me at odd times and had a SUV with an expensive stereo system that she couldn't even operate. One night we are on a date and notice a wedding ring on her finger. She had forgotten to take it off.
I noticed reading on the Nazi era that so many Germans just died of heart attacks around the age of 38. Was it PTSD from trench warfare or something?
>>18080427The only difference between then and now is nobody is pretending anymore, lifestyle marketing is on to browner pastures beyond the family unit so all you're left with is all it ever was. A pragmatic structure with numerous flaws that depend on the decency of human beings to function, hence why it seldom does.
Marriage is, and always has been, a tool used by the wealthy to manage money power and influence. If you're not a politician or high ranking frott facing in a large company, and your net worth is below $10 mil, there is literally zero reason for you to get married unless you just want to LARP that women are actually capable of love.
>>18082954You know it's true because of all the seething simps in this thread. They wouldn't be so mad if you didn't strike a nerve.They are biologically inferior and incapable of holding women accountable, because they're the type of beta males who don't get many throughout their lives. So being an obsequious piece of shit towards women is second nature to them.Let them get married. Let the women take them to the cleaners. Then call them faggots and offer them a Smith & Wesson retirement plan when their marriage fails and they expect us to care.
>>18083056>incel calling others beta maleslollmao
The key is to never marry a white woman. Don't get me wrong they are great for a pump and dump since they can no longer pair bond anyway but do not get attached or go beyond that at all. They like to jump from dick to dick to dick so their shelf life is limited.>t. White Chad Rice Mixer hitched for 16 years this Dec
>>18083097no thanks, would rather not have ugly future r/asianmasculinity users
>>18080054Shitty diets because Jews kept putting lard and other slop filler in food. Also smoking was popular at the time.
I've been married for 15 years because I dont give a fuck i just do what I think is best for my family. Most of these failed marriages are tards who think you can turn a whore into a wife. I got my wife pregnant in college and I made it work because my son's chance at being the best he could be means more to me than any of the other bullshit.
>>18083097enjoy your future mass shooter son
There are actually married men who post on /his/.
>>18083134some of us do exist. what about it?
when did incel become a slur anyway? when i was a kid we had a guy like that in the neighborhood, only we didn't call him an incel he was just a "hermit" to us. dude was in his 40s i guess and lived with his elderly mother, wasn't married and had no job. he kept the yard nicely maintained and always gave out candy at Halloween. nice guy and everyone liked him.
Do you tell your wife that she has some correct opinions every night? Have you ever slept on the couch like a fag? Lol
>>18083144Interesting case. He wasn't a paedo? maybe he was a downlow faggot but a bottom so wasn't interested in dominating kids, so just slipped out to get TOPPED every month or so, to clear the pipes.
>>18083148>>18083144the modern incel ideology is something totally different, they're people who actively seek to tear down others and discourage them from succeeding at life while promoting ugliness and nihilism. they're bioleninists in denial.
>>18082941By remembering how funny this is>Data on suicidal ideationSurveys of incel forums show alarmingly high rates of reported suicidal ideation:>A recent large-scale study found that one in five incels contemplated suicide every day for the two weeks prior to the survey.>Another recent study indicated that 37% of incel participants reported having daily suicidal thoughts.Self-reported suicidal ideation in older incel forum data ranged from 47.8% to 67.5%.>A 2020 survey from an incel-affiliated website found that 82.3% of respondents had considered suicide.
>>18083144>nice guy and everyone liked him.well most incels aren't that so that's why they get (rightfully) bullied
>>18083146>Do you tell your wife that she has some correct opinions every night? Have you ever slept on the couch like a fag? LolOnly the three times she was in the maternity ward but thanks anyway for asking.
>>18083168bet that maybe one of those kids is actually yours lol
>>18080054WWII made alcohol and cigarette use utterly rampant among veterans. Also general health problems brought on by stress.>>18080314I ain't even a LE 50s WERE.. BAD faggot but the experience of the decade obviously varied wildly.>>180831442014 after Elliot Rodger chimped out and the media decided to make a fucking celebrity out of him so other retards will follow his example instead of realizing that they were giving him exactly what he wanted and excising him from public memory which is what they should be doing.
>>18082954A prostitute is the most honest woman there is because she doesn't try to conceal or sugar coat the only useful purpose women serve.
>>18080054I guess medicine got good enough to let more people live to the age when heart disease becomes unavoidable, but not good enough yet to treat it.
>>18080054Healthy 1950s food was packed with lard, everyone smoked like a chimney, and a heart attack was just called getting old. Boomers live longer because they're standing on the graves of a million GIs who died so modern medicine could figure this shit out.
>>18080314Holy delusional retarded tradlarping zoomer.
>>18082941An even scarier statistic is about the number of illegitimate children in marriages and the cuck husband doesn't even suspects, kek. Imagine if DNA tests were performed on every children as soon as they were born?
Men are avoiding impregnating women out of fear of responsibility i.e. socially approved slavery.There are three kinds of men:1) Beta marriedcucks who do everything they’re told, marry women get women pregnant and slave away to support mother and child indefinitely. They’re a dying breed because marriage has gone from necessary evil to nightmare mode in the last 50 years and no one wants that stupid shit.2) Guys who fuck around but don’t stick around. The babies fathered by these men mostly end up down the drain at the local abortion clinic except for Gigachad babies who women would suffer any hardship to raise alone.3) NEETs/incels/MGTOWs who won’t >have sex or children whether by choice, or because they’re ugly and women hate them.Only category 1) is reliably resulting in families and there are less and less of them every day.
>>18084238Back in the day I was visiting the home of a friend whose roommate, a young woman, had a fiancee overseas in Iraq.She openly propositioned me after a party when we were up talking. (we were both totally sober) It disappointed me a lot -- more so in the world than in this specific woman --and I didn't act on it.It made me wonder if there's a kind of "wartime agreement" that these couples tacitly enter into. I didn't get the impression that she was any stranger to the custom of propositioning nice-enough men who happened by. At any rate, he returned the next year and they've since been happily married for years, and have four children.
>>18084251he should have know. when i enlisted my colleagues, COs, drill instructors, practically everyone told you to your face "_don't_ get married until after your time in the service is done, _don't_." some tards never learn and do it anyway. wonder how many of those kids were even his?
Smoking, red meat, and lard.
>>18084266Why would you cuck a soldier? A guy who is trained to kill people what the actual fuck
>>18084285Because cuck comes home and either stays delusional about his wife’s kid, or he sucks it up because he knows his wife is more to blame than the guy who fucked her.You seriously underestimate how many men in the armed forces are also pathetic bugmen. Most people who enlist, aren’t in combat roles, and generally aren’t impressive specimens anyway.
i was in the Army for eight years and only one person i knew didn't have his marriage destruct over infidelity. One. Battalion goes on exercises or deployment or even lockdown and the wives see them off and are in the bars and clubs a few hours later looking for dick. It was sad to witness. The effect on most men was devastating and I don't know any that were not permanently different after having gone through it.
>>18082941Even the half that stay married are not necessarily happy. Some unhappy marriages last a lifetime. Dead bedrooms, cheating wives and the cucks who forgive them, abusive BPD wives, there's a whole community out there of miserable married men.
Marriage and family has always been a sacrifice. That’s why historically society and government have worked very hard to give the average beta cuck provider stiff a break, by 1) giving him full authority over the household and 2) generally refraining from making fun of him for being a beta cuck provider instead of retaining his freedomProblem is that deep down nobody ever respected marriedcuck dudes because 1) there is nothing fundamentally worthy of respect about slaving away for the benefit of others, beta cuck providers are losers who have to bribe women with cash and prizes and 2) despite how much society historically worked to stigmatize him women and men too can’t help having a sneaking admiration for the man who gets women not through material provision or promises to enslave himself but rather through good looks, charm, physical strength or superior virility.And no the Jews didn’t do this. Human nature and the pathetic reality underneath it all of beta cucking and beta cucks did.
ITT: /r9k/ escapes its containment zone
>>18080054eating lead while smoking cigarettes and drinking tons of brown liquor
>>18080307Anon, lactose intolerant people can generally eat some portions of dairy without incurring any noticeable symptoms. Especially things like Dairy and butter which have far less lactose than straight milk. Jews can eat butter.
>>18084677you visualize her as she was at 22
>>18084309>And no the Jews didn’t do this.You're actually right about this, but not in the way you seem to think. Those who claim to be Jews today have zero connection to the ancient, biblical Jews or Israel. In that sense, this has nothing to do with a people group that existed in the first century.However, those who claim to be Jews are deeply involved in the 1960s and everything that happened there. To this day these mentally warped impostors continue to write and produce tv shows and films that constantly attempt to normalize the most deviant kinds of promiscuity and depraved acts of uncleanness. They glorify crime, decay, corruption, and relativization of everything. It is through these "pseudo-Jews," who also lied about the "holocaust" and who also historically owned the slave ships during the slave trade, that we now have to deal with sodomy and people mutilating themselves and children, as well as abortions, normalized divorce, all the different various kinds of sexual depravity etc. It is actually primarily because of them and their ideology that all of this has been happening.If their mentally ill ideology could be pointed out, fully exposed and properly blamed for all of this, then healing would start to become possible. I am pointing the finger at them because they are still behind it all right now. But no, these people are not actual Jews nor Israel, they only claim to be (they also lie constantly about that too).
>>18080307>Americans use mayo instead of butterYou get your information about Americans from the internet I see, Ivan.
>>18082972Its almost as if women were a mistake >>18082842Post tits
>>18080054Worse medical care, worse living conditions, shitton of bad habits, drugs and war injuries.
>>18083166how so?
>>18084677Have sex with the lights off. (^:
Smoking and leaded gas.
>>18080067>Cigarette epidemic