How were the Tlaxcalans able to survive being right next to Tenochtitlan? Was the "we just keep them around for sacrifices" line actually true and not just cope?
>>18080343Most of the mesoamerica cultures were fake. The smallpox crap is fake. What happened is archaeologists found some pots and some written material about a culture and invented an entire story about it when there was nothing there.Olmecs have African DNA. Africans created a line of culture around Oaxaca and the other cultures were poorly defined groups who had slightly different features that never had a real identity. Even mixtec and zapotec and other major culture are mostly modern inventions created by state education systems and not actual ethnic groups.
>>18080343Holy inflated borders.>How were the Tlaxcalans able to survive being right next to Tenochtitlan? They were not trying to conquer them. A flower war is not really for conquest.>Was the "we just keep them around for sacrifices" line actually true and not just cope?
>>18080343They were based and repvblicanpilled. They had a strong, rich culture with a strong sense of VIRTVS and they were like a Native American very of the early Roman Repvblic
>>18080343there were like three waves of migration and they were the third, had practically just arrived in the central valley along with the aztecs which are the same race. What happened is every wave of migration would find an abandoned or nearly abandoned city, assimilate the people, and then build on top of the ruined or newly conquered temples. It's probably a myth that the Aztecs did all the work on their island as their pyramids show evidence of also being multiple temples "covered up" so to speak. The Olmecs were not racially Mexican and were related to the natives in Guatemala which the Tlaxcalans helped the Spanish kill
>>18080343The Aztecs were not a true empire in the same way the incas were, they were a confederation of three city-states and their tributary territories rather a centralized political unit.
I don't buy the flower war excuse, Tlaxcalans probably had massive mobilization ability during a defensive war, due to republicanism. Feudal levies from Aztecas would probably balk at meeting crazed Tlaxcalan proto-nationalists.
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>>18080343First of all, Tlaxcala was a powerful hegemony on its own right, with vassals along the gulf coast and important allies in the form of Cholula and Huexotzinco, they weren't some random weak city-state as some seem to assume. Second of all, >Was the "we just keep them around for sacrifices" line actually true No. We know from other Conquistador accounts that the Aztecs were actively taking measures that suggested the ultimate goal of conquering Tlaxcala outright. They cut them off from trade and access to essential trade goods, isolated them from their allies, and had their nearby vassals attack them constantly, none of which are things you would do if you just wanted to keep them around forever as a source of sacrifices, the Aztecs quite simply opted for a longterm strategy to slowly choke them out and then conquer them instead of risking defeat with one big invasion.>>18080426Building up layers of pyramids on top of other pyramids is a standard Mesoamerican practice and does not suggest prior habitation or a change in regime. To my knowledge, none of the layers of the Templo Mayor are dated to before the date the Mexica founded Tenochtitlan, so nothing is changed in that regard.>>18081611It's mental illness actually, that right there is the same schizophrenic dude who has been spamming other nonsense like "the battle of stalingrad never happened for the past several years.
>>18082031The concept that people were in Tenochtitlan before the Aztecs is retarded since that started off only as a swampy island in the middle of lake Texcoco. No one would choose to live there. It was specifically because the Aztecs were banished there that it was developed into a major city.
