There's plenty of easy answers like Hitler, Mao and Stalin. But for all their atrocities, many of these men have defenders and apologists in the present day.Which dictators have little to no redeeming qualities; The ones who completely fucked their nations up beyond repair and don't have much, if at all, apologia afterwards?
>>18099950Zelensky.
>>18099950Franco and Pinochet. Usually stronger leaders have a vision for their country but these latinx dictatorships were just despotic oligarchies. Both turned their respective countries into backwater shitholes. Neither had a plan besides murdering their own people and jacking off to their troops marching in spandex
Ne Win.
>>18099950King Charles I ended up soliciting a foreign army to invade his own country and rape and murder his own subjects over the course of a Civil War he pretty much singlehandedly started so there's a serious case to be made it's him.
>>18099950Objective answer is Pol Pot.
>>18099972Justified punishment for betraying their king
>>18099950Francisco Macías Nguema. This dude described himself as a “Hitlerian-Marxist” (or as we call it nowadays, a NazBol).>In a conference to discuss the future independence of Equatorial Guinea at Madrid, he suddenly began an "incoherent eulogy of the Nazis", claiming that Adolf Hitler had wanted to save Africans from colonialism and only got "confused", causing him to attempt to conquer Europe. At one point he declared himself a "Hitlerian-Marxist".>When the Equatorial Guinean director of the Institute of Statistics, Saturnin Antonio Ndongo, published demographic data considered too low by Macías, he was dismembered to "help him learn to count".>By 1979, his servants stated that Macías Nguema had become increasingly withdrawn, often spending the time mostly alone at his Mongomo villa. He would wander around, repeatedly saying the names of his victims, and worshiping a collection of the severed heads of his enemies, hoping that this would grant him power. Even more disturbing to the servants was one occasion, however, when he ordered a meal and table to be prepared for eight guests. He then sat there alone, casually talking "with the dead".https://youtube.com/watch?v=pW9IeSmJdeY
>>18099972>have old traditional marriage consummation ceremony>doesn't actually require anyone to see it they just play music and throw bedclothes at you or something then walk you to the bed>acts like a prissy bitch and kicks everyone outHe was a retard and did everything he could to piss people off and make them distrust him. Real answer is probably some African dictator like >>18100095 There's a whole lot of them with Mao 4 pests campaign tier retardation.
>>18099960Both still have plenty of defenders
>>18099960>Both turned their respective countries into backwater shitholesNo they didn't. Both were already backwater shitholes. Spain was a backwater shithole because of hundreds of years of mismanagement and Argentina was for largely the same reason the American south is.
>>18100000quints of truth
>>18099950Pol Pot is league of his own, its not even the scale and proportional highscore, its the conceptual simplicity of the project, theory and praxis joined together in supreme brutality, so simple, so audacious, so pure
>>18100095Not superstitious, but if some supernatural shit were going on in the world this is how I'd expect it to show up in the historical record.
>>1809995314:1 :)
>>18099960Pinochet and Franco were based. Seethe, commie
>>18100095Hero
>>18100125But why? Neither had a ideology. It's similar to african dictatorships like >>18100095 but they were a little less occultist and more self righteous. Syndicalists in Spain had an ideology that they outlined in their manifesto. Republicans had an ideology that they outlined in their manifesto. Monarchists and the juntas basically chudded out over nothing. They weren't even racialists and they had no problem with their country's economy being held by a small percent of the population. Now they are the poorest most retarded country in EU despite not being a major player in WW2. If I were Spanish or Hispanic I would probably do all that I can to make white tourists feel unsafe visiting my country.>>18100152>>18100172Chile, much like every other country in Latin America, was on its way to being a prosperous country up until Pinochet was brought to power by the United States. Argentina plateau'd very early because the neolib masquerading as a nazbol in charge didn't want to put his money where his mouth was and reign in the mooching oligarchs sapping his country of everything. Chile wasn't even marxist to justify red scare interventions from the CIA. They were going for something similar to the European model. But anywho, America can now enjoy having hispanic economic refugees in their economic zone and enjoy all the changes they bring from the inside. You voted for it.
>>18100353Franco and Pinochet were reactionary conservatives. Stability and order were their ideology; not some gay idea of national rebirth. Franco in particular was extremely successful, being a master manipulator who kept his regime in power until his death. Both Pinochet and Franco led their countries to extremely wealthy via economic liberalism.They cannot be blamed for the incompetency of their successors.
>>18100095This dude was a legit schizo. Like he had multiple mental health issues, cosntantly saw a specialst, and even admitted that he knew he was crazy.
>>18100353>PinochetNo that was the commie who failed his revolution solely because the army acked himHere's a nerd going over it:>https://youtu.be/26_MELRMpwM?si=SBrbpS1UJy9qBa8dThere's also a part that explains pinochet himself how he was a NPC in everything besides drip
>>18099950As much as relevance goes, Robespierre and yhe jacocels literally invented modern reigns of terror. His legal loopholes and abuses are still in effect in many countries; Like the full implementation of dual jurisdiction so he could pretend his platonic abuses were justified by circlejerking with fellow platonists You can also pick and choose many African or african american dictators for video game tier villainry
>>18100977>Franco in particular was extremely successful, being a master manipulator who kept his regime in power until his death. Both Pinochet and Franco led their countries to extremely wealthy via economic liberalism."Extremely wealthy" seems overstated a bit, his economic reforms were moderately successful. I'm, like, purple-haired woke and wouldn't say Franco was especially bad as far as world dictators go because he didn't seek to radically transform the society.
>>18101060Fair. A better way to word it is that Franco and Pinochet created better societies than their predecessors.
>>18099960The worst dictators have visionsFranco and Pinochet took over from retards with dreams of Marxist dictatorship
>>18099950>HitlerHow was Hitler bad though?It was the filthy Anglo that started WWII all Hitler did was defend himself.
>>18099960Ye but Pinochet was more of just a CIA asset so he can't be counted as his own thing.
>>18101661> Pinochet took over from retards with dreams of Marxist dictatorshipPinochet was just an American asset, he had no real ideology.He was just there to do whatever it is the Americans wanted him to do.
>>18101695You overestimate the role the CIA played in the coup. It was going to happen anyway due to Allende being an absolute retard.Pinochet ran Chile on his on initiative, with the CIA providing mild assistance.
>>18101700It's not just the coup itself, it's his whole presidency that was devoted to serving America, making him just an extension of American hegemony in SA, rather his own thing.
>>18101707You sound like a butthurt commie from Chile>helicopter man died 20 years ago
>>18101707Pinochet tended to be at odds with US foreign policy, he even killed a Chilean exile on U.S soil without Uncle Sam's okay.Pinochet didn't have an eagle on his shoulder telling him to hand over his country to the U.S, he, and every other military dictator of that era, was completely autonomous.The "CIA puppet" shit is just a way to overinflate the power of the CIA.
>>18101690refuted by mein kampf
>>18101837I don't see how.It was the Anglo/French that declared war.
>>18101992Hitler broke treaties, it was astonishing that he wasn't ousted in 36.