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>In a conference to discuss the future independence of Equatorial Guinea at Madrid, he suddenly began an "incoherent eulogy of the Nazis", claiming that Adolf Hitler had wanted to save Africans from colonialism and only got "confused", causing him to attempt to conquer Europe. At one point he declared himself a "Hitlerian-Marxist".
>When the Equatorial Guinean director of the Institute of Statistics, Saturnin Antonio Ndongo, published demographic data considered too low by Macías, he was dismembered to "help him learn to count".
>By 1979, his servants stated that Macías Nguema had become increasingly withdrawn, often spending the time mostly alone at his Mongomo villa. He would wander around, repeatedly saying the names of his victims, and worshiping a collection of the severed heads of his enemies, hoping that this would grant him power. Even more disturbing to the servants was one occasion, however, when he ordered a meal and table to be prepared for eight guests. He then sat there alone, casually talking "with the dead".
How did this guy even become the leader of his country?
https://youtube.com/watch?v=pW9IeSmJdeY
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>>18102563
>and worshiping a collection of the severed heads of his enemies, hoping that this would grant him power. Even more disturbing to the servants was one occasion, however, when he ordered a meal and table to be prepared for eight guests. He then sat there alone, casually talking "with the dead".
Based Iron Age Western Iberia Severed Head Cult appreciator
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>>18102563
How can we know if all of those crazy things were real and are not stories created to scare the population?

Creating crazy stories like that from dictators is very common. For example Pol Pot has a lot of stories that were just propaganda to make him look even crazier.
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He had latent schizophrenia and then took a load of ibogaine which really didn't help
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>>18102563
>he was dismembered to "help him learn to count".
Yeah that'll show em.
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>>18102563
Equatorial Guinea has an average IQ of 59.
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>>18102653
>Hitler gets a fever
>activates Ultra Instinct and takes over the world without breaking a sweat
>this guy takes Ibogaine and becomes absolute ruler
any books on this?
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>>18102563
>muslims in Germany complaining about nazis the first day
>shouting Adolf Hitler against jews at a pro-Palestine demonstration the next day
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Fucker sounds incredibly based and redpilled
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>>18102728
based
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>>18102575
>>18102653
He was also part of the Fang ethnic group which was never fully Christianized and still retains witchcraft beliefs
Equatorial Guinea has a Spanish accent very close to the Spanish one btw, it's pretty surreal
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>>18102563
Greatest Hitlerian to ever live
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>>18102563
>Reading the spanish wikipedia
>Turns out dude got cucked by a spanish teenager before going crazy
Now that's an unexpected villain origin story
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>>18104127
Those damn Spaniards with their ham, wine and shagging!
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>>18102563
Seriously what the fuck was his problem l? It’s a very rare day that someone this unhinged and incompetent maintains power for so long. This is barely scratching the surface. There’s all sorts of other insane shit.

By the way, his family still rules the country today as their own little fiefdom. His nephew removed him from power in the 80s and still runs the joint. His children, the Obiangs, are obsessed either the lavish life and frequently take private jet flights to Paris to go on extravagant shopping sprees in which they spend more money in an hour than most people in the country will see for a decade.

It’s genuinely one of the worst places on Earth and goes completely ignored. Everyone knows North Korea, some more savvy people have at least heard of some of the conditions of Eritrea, almost nobody knows about Equatorial Guinea. Highly recommend watching some videos and doing some reading.

Also what the fuck is it that makes the population so submissive? Literally anyone else would’ve flipped shit by now
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>>18104153
The ruler lives on his own evil villain island called Malabo which is the capital city, the majority live on the mainland which is much, much poorer lacking basic infrastructure in most places.
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>>18104168
Oh yeah! I forgot about that. That’s probably the most comical evil villain stereotype he lives up to, literally has an evil lair on an island where he plans his evil schemes. Who writes this shit?
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>>18104168
>>18104170
I forgot to add, I do wonder if this choice was made strategically, not just because of fear of revolt, but neighboring countries. A neighboring country could probably easily send their army in and occupy the capital if it were on land, but I don’t know if any nearby country had a decent enough navy to transport troops to the island, my guess is not.
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>>18104153
>>18104168
>Population live in absolute hell
>Government is not connected to most of the population by land
Why the fuck haven't they revolted yet? There is no way they couldn't declare there own government or whatever. Any revolution could probably get support for North Korea/Cuba or some radical islamist groups or something if they played their cards right, and i don't think anyone gives a shit about the current government, so it's unlikely that they would get much if any international support. I'm really confused on what the fuck any of these people are doing
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>>18104193
That’s exactly what baffles me. It’s not like the government is all that competent. My only guess is that the government might be using it money to pay contractors to do enforcement and inform them on threats.

You should really watch a documentary about the place. It’s nuts. I wonder if there’s something about the culture of those particular tribes and ethnicities that make them particularly subservient or something. I can understand why the populations of North Korea and Eritrea haven’t revolted, but not Equatorial Guinea. Obviously it’s harder with the capital being an island off the coast but still.
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>>18102563
The thing that drives me insane is that this guy's Cousin is still running E. Guinea, Obiang. Obiang assisted Macias in his insane regime, but we all pretend like he didn't.
This is like if Adolph Eichman was president of Germany today. It's crazy.
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>>18104153
>It’s genuinely one of the worst places on Earth and goes completely ignored. Everyone knows North Korea, some more savvy people have at least heard of some of the conditions of Eritrea, almost nobody knows about Equatorial Guinea. Highly recommend watching some videos and doing some reading.
It's not paradise on Earth but it's one of the better countries in Africa to live in. Yes, there's a dictador but the current one is not that crazy. I've actually done some watching of local youtubers (I'm learning Spanish), and it doesn't seem too bad. Underdeveloped, which is nothing strange for Africa, yes, but comparing it to countries NK or Eritrea is insane.
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>>18105353
70% of the population lives with less than a dollar per day. You have much better models in Africa.
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>>18105353
GDP is a very flawed model
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>>18104200
>>18104923
and replace it with what, republicanism? Monarchy is stable and efficient in a "civilization 3" sense
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>>18105592
This isn’t a monarchist vs democrat debate, the current regime is objectively evil in the most extreme sense.
>If you think the most comically evil dictator literally ever is worse than republicanism you’re a lib
Actually republicanism would be infinitely superior to this unironically. Fucking South Africa would be superior to Equatorial Guinea. The only thing “stable and efficient” about Equatorial Guinea’s Obiang-Nguema dynasty is the stability and efficiency of them torturing their population eternally to the greatest extent possible.
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>>18105616
what's so evil about them besides the aesthetics and absurd excess which, while unseemly, is probably not a major determining factor of the national economy.
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>>18105398
What about tourism?
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>>18102563
Post ww2 African dictators are so Kino.
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>>18104153
The rulers are on an island offshore and have immense oil wealth. They can be as crazy as they want, doesn't impact my unelectrified village on the mainland
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>>18106050
Unfortunately true
>>18105633
Watch a video on them, they’re extremely exploitative. They live lives that 99.999% of human beings on the planet couldn’t imagine while their people are basically slaves. It’s unreal how much effort they put into actively preventing any development that would actually benefit the people
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>>18105999
Modern African history is Kino as fuck. Nowhere else could you have shit like the Liberian civil wars or the Seychelles
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>>18105633
>the general population lives like shit but at least the libs aren't in power
Why all monarchists are like this?
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>>18106188
All I asked was what's so shit about it, apparently they suffer from not being as rich as their dictator's family. Republicanism will not give that to them, nor would dividing up the dictator's wealth between everyone, so what exactly is the motivation for change? What makes anything else a better solution?
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>>18104923
Nobody gives a shit because it's a small african country with no nukes nor border conflicts. They're irrelevant, plus they spent 5% of their GDP on bribing Spain (the only country who barely gives a shit about them) who are equally corrupt as them.
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>>18106153
For me, it's General Butt-Naked
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>>18106153
The epic tragedy that is Congo's story is beyond kino. Leopold to Lumumba to Mobutu to Kagame to Genocide to an endless vortex of forever afri-war
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>>18106153
Modern African history is basically just true crime
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>>18105353
Dude, the GDP numbers are entirely skewed. The only people who even have a chance at a decent life are people on the dictator’s evil lair island who prop up the regime. Do more research. You genuinely have no idea just how horrible it is.

I’m well aware how bad most of sub-Saharan Africa is, but trust me, Equatorial Guinea is infinitely worse.
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>>18106200
It’s not that they’re “not as rich” as the dictator’s family. That might be the greatest understatement I’ve heard in my entire life, in fact, the understatement of all understatements.

They are all living in abject poverty and have no de facto or de jure rights. It’s the textbook definition of a hellhole.
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>>18106200
>nor would dividing up the dictator's wealth between everyone
Sure it would.
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>>18106295
got anything besides 'watch a video'?
>>18106315
they still wouldn't be as wealthy as him
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>>18106318
>got anything besides “watch a video”?
Nope. The burden of proof is on you if you insist that the wealth inequality and atrocious living standards aren’t as bad as people say. Looking up a GDP chart on Wikipedia doesn’t mean anything.

It’s a SHITHOLE. Watch a video.
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>>18106318
https://youtu.be/PxMiM-88ABw?si=qRNWx2SxEVjCyWch
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>>18106318
You can also read the countless comments from westerners who lived there temporarily for oil jobs who twlk about how it’s more corrupt than the video can even convey and the mainland populations are slaves in everything but name.
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>>18102563
The first one is not that crazy. Hitler often bitched about allied colonialism is his propaganda as a justification for the anchlus.



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