Geraldus Cambrensis (Gerald of Wales, 1146-1223, Archdeacon of Brecon) wrote in his Topographia Hibernica (Topography of Ireland, 1187) of a ceremony among the Irish:>“There is in a northern and remote part of Ulster, among the Kenelcunil, a certain tribe which is wont to install a king over itself by an excessively savage and abominable ritual. In the presence of all the people of this land in one place, a white mare is brought into their midst. Thereupon he who is to be elevated, not to a prince but to a beast, not to a king but to an outlaw, steps forward in beastly fashion and exhibits his bestiality.>“Right thereafter the mare is killed and boiled piecemeal in water, and in the same water a bath is prepared for him. He gets into the bath and eats of the flesh that is brought to him, with his people standing around and sharing it with him. He also imbibes the broth in which he is bathed, not from any vessel, nor with his hand, but only with his mouth.>“When this is done right according to such unrighteous ritual, his rule and sovereignty are consecrated.”Did this actually happen, or is it just propaganda invented by Anglo-Saxons?
>>18103160Yes. A lot of these based pagan Indo-European Aryan rituals (like fucking horses) survived the longest in Ireland and India. Praise Dyeus Farter!
>>18103160Very Indo-European! Hail, aryan brothers
>>18103160>archdeaconChristian propaganda most likely
>>18103169Saaar
>>18103171Shalom rabbi
>>18103199I'm neither Jewish nor have any Jewish blood
>>18103160a bit too far-fetchedespecially the broth partbut who knows, maybe some weird isolated tribe degenerated enough to practice such 'ritual'
>>18103169>>18103199>it is christian faults we are degenerate freaks even if christianity didn't existed
>>18103208>>18103220You're literally proud of being spiritual JewsI bet your circumcized and teach Moses to your kids
Yes, this did happen.It is also based and horsepilled.Sky father be praised!I can feel the vril of my ancestors coursing through my veins, I can hear the thunder of hooves on the open plains, see the slick damp sweat on their hide shining in the sun, smell the horseshit and piss everywhere, taste the fermented mare's milk yoghurt.KARA BOGA
>>18103160>Prophet Muhammad zutting donkey AllauAkbar!
>>18103224No? Am I also spiritually Greek for reading Plato?
>>18103160Sounds like bad translation with huge misunderstandings.Ritualistic animal human marriage is found in few cultures.Washing yourself or babtism like ritual is a common thing.Eating barehanded and sharing a bowl are also common in larger animal sacrifices.
>>18103232>taste the fermented mare's milk yoghurt.You'd almost lost me but I'm back in.
>>18103160You may laugh but we were better off as unconquerable savages. If pounding horse pussy meant no more jew worship, no more christcuckery and the slaughter of invaders I would do it ten times a day and consider it superior to communion.Remember how the U.S. was forced to withdraw from Afghanistan because of a bunch of goat fuckers?
>>18103337>because of a bunch of goat fuckers?I remember a bunch of other factors being the cause of that
>>18103160Nice. Gerald of Wales just lied about literally everything. There is a part in Topographica Hibernia where he says Irish women are able to transform into there's lmao. It also mentions talking werewolves, phantom islands that vanish and then reappear and a lot of other insane shit.
>>18103597Transform into hares* Damn my phone fagging ways.
>>18103597Transforming into hares is impossible though... having sex with horses, on the other hand... Are we to discount all accounts of Ireland made by Gerald of Wales?
>>18103814>If it could happen then it did happennot sure it works like that chepito
Despite all attempts to artificially induce a mirror of the israel-muslim money printing arena within the IRA, the God+Aelic people remained far too psychically aware to ever be prey.
>>18103160>Did this actually happen, or is it just propaganda invented by Anglo-Saxons?Yes. Having sex with horses was, unironically, an important cultural artifact and widespread tradition across Europe, introduced to them by the Aryan peoples. Son of The White Mare (which got recently was subbed and remaster and is now wildly available to buy/torrent. I highly recommend giving it a watch.) is an animated film based off the pervasive East-European myth of a divine white mare giving birth to several sons who would go on to defeat dragons and bring about society. Epona was another divine horse (and where the horse from the Legend of Zelda gets her name) assimilated by the Romans from their conquest of the Gaulish and Celtic people. Epona was a fertility goddess and said to give birth to the most beautiful daughters and the finest horses.
>>18103903>the remus/romulus myth is proof wolf-fucking was a widespread tradition in the italian peninsula>the leda/pasiphae myths is proof that swan-fucking and cow-fucking was a widespread tradition in the italian peninsula
>>18103160It is very well known that pagans engaged in zoophilia.
>>18104020It is very well known that christians engaged in cannibalism and human sacrifice.
>>18103160>Gerald of Wales>Anglo-Saxonsnah they're innocent of this one, it's a Welsh sourceAlso it actually happened, there are close Indo-European parallels a medieval European couldn't have known.
>>18103160Besides Ireland, horsefucking kingship rituals are attested to in India.Hittites exempted horsefuckers and donkeyfuckers from bestiality charges.There is lots of compelling evidence that these practices were holdovers from the ancient aryan conquerors.
>>18103160I'm gonna have to request sauce for the pic
>>18104439>ywn breed a JTRH-NBR mare with your aryan broswhy even live
>>18103160Since nobody has asked yet: Source on pic?
>>18104464I have asked already. See >>18104455
>>18103160It sounds like he's mistaking a motif of Irish literature dealing with pagan ireland where druids sat in a stew of a bull that was slaughtered and consumed it to gain visions of who will be the next king. In one story the druid is only making shit up and gets killed by the true king. But Gerald of Wales is very unreliable as a source.
>>18103814>Are we to discount all accounts of Ireland made by Gerald of Wales?Yes. He's proven himself to be an unreliable fantasist.
>>18103160If it were true then how come there are no Irish sources talking about this? Like the IRish have the oldest written vernacular in Europe and they wrote about their ceremonies yet this shit isn't there? Doesn't add up mon frere
>>18103160>>18104494The OP is just a fascist moron. It took me less than ten minutes to find the translation of the original text (https://www.yorku.ca/inpar/topography_ireland.pdf) and the actual explanation on what was being done and understood by the partakers in the ceremony (https://web.archive.org/web/20240518140717/https://www.flashpointmag.com/gibson.htm). Of course the main issue is that this fucking moron doesn't have a general idea of what causes rituals to come to existence or why people partake in them or what they are used to solidify or really how human beings work, but it's funnier to point out how little effort it takes to just read.OP, you know you don't need to be an idiot, right? You COULD just decide to learn things to understand the world around you better. That would be a far better use of your time.
>>18104769>The OP is just a fascist moron.How is this your go-to hypothesis rather than a leftist or brown person who hates White people?
>>18103162>>18103166>>18103903>>18104461>>18104439WE
>>18103233>donkey sticking its tongue outWhat a freak.
>>18103160Well, at least they werent young boys
>>18104783They're using moronic fascist logic, so they're a fascist moron. Whether this fascist logic is because they are a Hindutva nationalist or a Swedish nationalist is of little interest to me. It should not require going on 4chan to have a basic understanding of which parts of the account are probably lies.Though it should be noted that the former (a genuine Hindutva nationalist) is not likely to be here; it only takes some knowledge of history to note that for the greater part of the existence of racism as an ideology Irish people were considered non-white, and there are some particularly pathetic fascists who have no attachment to reality and still yearn for those days. This could easily be an Anglo fascist from England or whatever.>>18103160Anyway, from here (https://archive.org/details/giraldicambrensi05gira/page/168/mode/2up) the original Latin is> Ad quod sublimandus ille non in principem sed in beluam, non in regem sed exlegem, coram omnibus bestialiter accedens, non minus - impudenter quam imprudenter se quoque bestiam profitetur.So "se quoque bestiam profitetur" basically means that the person being crowned a "king" declares himself a beast. I imagine the translator looked at an entry for "profiteor" in a dictionary, saw "offer freely" and then assumed that it meant that the person was offering themselves to the beast. This is wrong because not only is the horse a mare ("iumentum candidum" - a white mare; as far as I'm concerned "iumentum" had to mean mere in this case) which would make the physics questionable, the case for the word "beast" is in the accusative and not in the dative or some other prepositional clause which is suspicious. But verbs of naming and declaring take as accusative the name or the thing being declared all the time in Latin.
But really none of this is necessary and I don't expect OP to know Latin. The problem is that, as I said earlier, they don't know how human beings work. Do you really think that a fully patriarchal society as most in Ireland was would allow their king, presumably a titled and propertied man, to get raped by a stallion in public as a display? Generally even (free)women would never be met with this treatment, if only that it would be humiliating for their fathers and/or husbands. If this was a slave being publicly raped then it would make a little more sense but even that is iffy since public rape as a spectacle and not as a punitive measure is not very uncommon.
Common, I mean.
>>18104846It's a matter of debate among scholars. Here is another translation by J. F. Dimock:>There is in the northern and farther part of Ulster, namely in Kenelcunill, a certain people which is accustomed to appoint its king with a rite altogether outlandish and abominable. When the whole people of that land has been gathered together in one place, a white mare is brought forward into the middle of the assembly. He who is to be inaugurated, not as a chief, but as a beast, not as a king, but as an outlaw, has bestial intercourse with her before all, professing himself to be a beast also.So I'm just going to believe the available English translations made by experts, and accept that Gerald of Wales reports Irish kings fucking horses. And the horse kingship ritual is mentioned briefly in another text:>[70] Then Maelumae came to Colman with the report of the story as it had all happened. Colman, however, said to him: ‘Triumph of deeds of war and of victory upon thy successor without his being killed in them,74 nor shall any of thy descendants ever be slain in revenge for Conall, and it shall be a successor of thine who proclaims the King of Tara till Doom, so that his mind shall henceforth be upon Ireland and Ireland's mind upon him, if only the king be proclaimed by him’ (viz.75 ‘The kingship and headship of Ireland to thee, O king!’ ‘ [...] upon thee,’ saith the King as he makes a cast at him, ‘hast thou brought Conall Guthbinn with thee?’ And thus it should be done, the king to be at the foot of the Pillar-stone of the Hostages above, and the man of the Hui Forannan upon the flag-stone below, an open horsewhip in his hand so as to save himself as best he can from the cast, provided that he do not step forth from the flagstone).— The Life of Colman Son of Luachan (Anonymous)>>18104860A mare is a female horse...
>>18103160I think about how dolphins also have sex or try to have sex with animals outside of their species, so its not surprising at all that humans have been doing so as well in the thousands of years of our existence.
>>18104896*translation by John O'Meara
>>18104846>Though it should be noted that the former (a genuine Hindutva nationalist) is not likely to be here;Wow, that's a spicy newfag take. No, they post here daily and there is an endless amount of brown people seething with hatred on this website.
>>18104212Proofs
>>18104846I'm pretty sure the OP is the Brazilian faceapp spammer. He has some peculiar obsession with europagans and bestiality
>>18104896I realize that what J. F. Dimock here has as "has bestial intercourse with her before all" is "coram omnibus bestialiter accedens," which the Forester translation is "comes before the people on all fours." But "accedens" is just the present participle of "accedo" (here obviously meaning "advance, come forth, etc.") which gives the phrase a more direct translation of "coming before all the people as a beast." This makes a lot more sense to translate as them fucking the mare than the "se ... profitetur" part, but, given "bestialiter" just means "in a beastly manner," it's still a reach. And just as you are inclined to accept it for personal chauvinistic reasons (which you are now disguising as "just following the scholarly debate"), I am inclined to disbelieve the interpretation of Dimock, an English scholar who was probably hyper-racist towards Irish people as was the academic persuasion at the time.Also, I'm not denying the existence of horse kingship rituals in the Isles. Those are widely attested.>>18104970> Wow, that's a spicy newfag take. No, they post here daily and there is an endless amount of brown people seething with hatred on this website.I don't participate frequently on this site. In retrospect that isn't all that far-fetched since there is a strata of Hindutva nationalists who would be here even from India.
>>18105055Holy cope. This is all-zutt for Irishmen.
