Why are they such zealous Catholics (or at least were I know they rapidly turned atheist like Quebec did in modern times) despite the fact that the pope LITERALLY gave all of Ireland away to England in the Laudabiliter? Are they retarded? Also no subsequent medieval popes ever bothered to overturn this kek.
>>18103230>WhyTo stick it to Protestant England. Don't look for deep thinking from these drunkards.
>>18103230>LaudabiliterIsn't there even question of whether it exists?
>>18103248Troothnook
>>18103250Whether or not it exists, Ireland was universally recognized as a fief that the papacy gave over to England. Literally nobody questioned this.
Druids run the Catholic Church.
>>18103230Most of irish identity is just about spiting the british. Would make more sense if they didn't also rely on completely the british for keeping their territorial integrity intact.
>>18103230Why?
>>18103402I'm the one asking questions around here buddy.>>18103386Big if true
>>18103230Irish are latinx of Europe. Their identity is built on butthurt
>>18103606noticed that irish rightwing nationalists, the few that exists, absolutely lionize the spanix empire
Say 'thank you' to an Irishman today, everyone
>>18103230>Are they retarded?YesYou have to remember that Ireland was right at the edge of Europe. Just geographically, a Catholic peasant in the rural west of Ireland was far more isolated than a Catholic peasant in southern France. Plus, Ireland's Catholic aristocracy was completely removed in the 17th century. So people with access to education were all Protestant (and even for Protestants, the kind of education you could get in Ireland wasn't exactly world-class). The non-retarded Irish Catholics learned English and converted to Protestantism (Irish people today like to pretend that they were racially discriminated against but really, it was easy to just convert). Being an Irish Catholic meant by definition that you were stubborn and ignorant.
>>18103230>900 years agoWho gives a fuck?
>>18104417the irish do care a lot about their "800 years"
>>18104446The Irish can't make their minds up as to what constitutes Irish, nor at which point. On the one hand, the English have been an oppressive force for over 800 years. The next, they're speaking of 'Tudor invasions'.
>>18103389Ireland has plenty of culture/identity unrelated to Britain. It's Ulster-Scots whose entire identity is just not being Irish with nothing beyond that
>>18103248Since we converted to Catholicism, no better alternatives came about so we just stuck to it. Well until recently, now we're mostly atheist as the world is moving past religion. Just because England converted to Protestantism, doesn't mean we had to. It's an inferior sect so there was simply no incentive to convert
>>18104567the guys who created Irish Republicanism and the idea they should separate from the british were protties though
>>18104587I don't think wanting the British to fuck off is an idea that exactly needs inventing.
>>18104611and yet the first real organized attempt to do so was spearheaded by prots.Before that it was all about being ruled by the right brits (royalists and then jacobins)
The OP asks: “Why didn’t the Irish just convert and modernize like everyone else?” Because that question assumes religion is merely belief. It isn’t. Religion—especially within a colonized context—is a communication structure: a way a people preserves agency, memory, and orientation inside a hostile field of power. Human beings exist within a relational field; domination always begins by attacking a people’s symbolic continuity. You don’t conquer bodies—you conquer communication.Ireland endured systematic field disruption: land seizures, penal laws, legal apartheid, language suppression, extraction economics, and administration by an occupying power that treated the native population as answerable but voiceless. Under those conditions, Catholicism did not survive as superstition—it persisted as an ontology of resistance. It gave the Irish a parallel structure of recognition when the imposed order denied their subjecthood. The Church was not just a religious institution; it became a sovereign interior nation that British power could not dissolve.So why didn’t they “just convert” for social and economic benefit? Because conversion was not a theological choice—it was relational suicide. It would have meant submitting the Irish self to the British symbolic order and accepting inferiority as identity. Remaining Catholic was not stubbornness. It was refusing assimilation into someone else’s definition of reality.A leprechaun once promised a farmer he’d mark the spot of buried treasure. He tied a red ribbon to one stalk of wheat so the field could be found again. When the farmer returned with a shovel, he discovered that every stalk of wheat across the whole field now bore the same red ribbon.When power tries to erase something true, the people multiply the symbol until it becomes impossible to uproot.Irish Catholic identity became exactly that: a field of red ribbons. Not fanaticism—communicative fanfare of survival.
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>>18103230Only the IRish in urban centres were uber Catholic. The Irish in the countryside only did the three main sacrrements and did festivals with pagan origins like Halloween. Once the Famine killed off most of the countryside IRish, only the mega autistic Catholic tards were left and thats where the birth of zealous Catholic Ireland happened
Calling rural Irish Catholic culture “autistic” accidentally touches something true—just not in the way you think. Autism isn’t about stupidity; it’s about communication style. High-context, ritual-based cultures preserve meaning through pattern stability rather than abstract argument. Under colonial pressure, the countryside didn’t become “more Catholic” because it was dumb—it became ritual-protective. When a people are under symbolic attack, they stabilize identity the same way autistic cognition stabilizes reality: through structure, repetition, and signal fidelity.In other words, what you’re mocking as “autistic Catholic Ireland” was actually cultural immune response—a precision defense against assimilation.
>>18104661>Religion—especially within a colonized context—is a communication structure>Human beings exist within a relational field>an ontology of resistancelol this reads like it was written by an academic at a minor university in Ireland who puts their pronouns on their Twitter and regularly posts pro-Hamas screeds.The real answer is that Irish were so backward most of them were never really exposed to non-Catholic ideas, and the British never actually put any effort into converting them.
>>18104567Enjoy Hell, mick.
>>18104567>no incentiveYour backward papist superstitions literally made you second class citizens.
>>18103230>Why are they such zealous CatholicsBecause of foreign invasion and occupation. Same with Poland.
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>>18104411>was
