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Sometimes I think that themes and karma exist in history. The islamic expansion seems to be a semitic revenge against the indoeuropean (persians, greeks, romans) rule of the middle east. It also seems to be an arab revenge against christianity and maybe zoroastrianism being forced upon them and instead of following Yahweh or Ahura Mazda they instead chose to create a monotheistic religion based on theri chief God El/Allah.
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>>18104972
>christianity and maybe zoroastrianism being forced upon them
There were no Arabs outside of the Arabian peninsula you retard.
The Levant and Mesopotamia spoke Aramaic and culturally split into Syrians (not modern Arab ones), Assyrians, and Chaldeans. Egypt was Coptic, North Africa was Berber, etc…
Also, Christianity literally originated in these lands and if anything it was forced upon Europe not MENA
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>>18104972
I mean if it was revenge against IndoEuropeans it didn’t work out to well considering how prominent the Persian influence became in the Islamicate world. Everything from India to Turkey was culturally aspirant towards Persians.
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>>18104972
Yahweh is literally some arab god
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>>18104987
>There were no Arabs outside of the Arabian peninsula you retard.
Average /his/ retard right here
There were several arab cities and kingdoms in the levant and Iraq before the prophet qas even born, a fucking roman empire was an arab too
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>>18105038
Roman emperor*
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>>18105038
Nope. Practically all of them were anything but Arabic. The Babylonians and Assyrians spoke Akkadian. The Phoenicians spoke well Phoenician. The Egyptians spoke Egyptian. And so on. All of these groups did not identify as Arab and if anything they looked down on Arabs and viewed all Arabs the same way Zionists view Palestinians. By the Roman period, the Levant and Mesopotamia spoke Aramaic and did not identify as Arab nor were they culturally Arab, they identified as “Syrian”, “Assyrian”, or “Chaldean”.

Cope harder jeet.
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>>18105038
>We wuz Mediterraneans
Saar you no look at dna saar, Araps are not Arabs, Arabs are Natufian saar and Natufian come from Yemen saar, please know it saar.
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>>18105153
Tragic all these cultures were destroyed by the most tolerant religion of peace and replaced by inbred, smelly savages.
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>>18104972
ZUT ALORS !!
this is the best
http://www.google.com/search?q=prophet+of+doom+craig+winn
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>>18105153
Where do kurds come from? Why did they appear in anatolia during the ottoman period?
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>>18105439
They were tribals who helped Timur rape everybody in the area and have been kinda around ever since.
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>>18105439
They were an Iranic peoples from modern-day Azerbaijan who fled to the Ottoman Empire after the Safavids tried to enforce Shia Islam on them.
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>>18105158
Might makes right. The only tragedy is that the arabs were merciful enough to still leave some of those worthless golems alive.
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>>18105439

They started in western Iran around kermanshah.

During the caliphate era they poured into Adiabene(Syriac Christian populated region) and they rapebabied them out of existence.

Arabs brought them to Diyarbakir to be mercenary soldiers against Byzantines.

Then the ottomans started destroying the Armenian populations in eastern Anatolia and replacing them with Kurds from Diyarbakir and Iran

Some Kurdish tribes existed in the Armenian provinces that came after the Seljuk conquest but most came at the start of ottoman rule.
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>>18104987
no he is right you are fool
the word arab comes from the north
the first to call themself arab were the qedarites (from qeder son of ishmaEL)
the original people of upper arabia (yemen) never called themself arabs
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>>18105712

and yet arabic lore and pre-islamic arabic mythology that develped before islam made them to be
this is why in archaeology and lengusetcly they called the still living south semetic languages in arabia (south arabian) and not (south arabic)
because arabic comes from the north and calling ist south arabian means it belonges to the arabian penesila
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>>18104972
you can observe karma in day to day life
"there's no shortcuts"
"pain is gain"
etc all these quotes highlight the necessity of sacrifice, that is if you're gonna win something deliberately or not you're gonna trade for it something else
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>>18105712
>Ishmael
a fictional character
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>>18105536
>Might makes right.
>merciful enough to still leave the natives alive
>worthless golems
Then why do you complain about Israel genociding palestinians?
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>>18104972
You have the islamic expansion backwards. Civilization was already accelerating at a rapid pace in the mediterranean world compared to persia and the asian/african hinterland. Christianity is a significant development on pre-christian religion, created under pressure of population growth and trade that threatened earlier conceptions of the world. Adopting salvation as a central focus, where the key action is acceptance of God, centered religion on the individual. The effect was immediate and analogous to the French revolutionary army's unleashed national soldiers, fighting not for a king but for their own stake in the world, who quickly became unstoppable. Islam is a post-christian religion that used armies driven by salvation and individual penance to dominate technologically inferior persians, africans, turks, and indians. Islam is a civilizing force against paganism, fringe conflicts with christianity notwithstanding, the vast majority of their conquests had primitive pagan religion. Arguably anywhere christianity has been able to legitimize itself, Islam has retreated. They're more like a clean-up crew for places that haven't been properly christianized than they are a competitor or scourge of christianity.



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