Why did it take so long for forks to catch on as common eating utensils?
It's one of those "people in the past were just stupid" kind of things.
>>18105821>>18105797>Why did it take so long for forks to catch on as common eating utensils?Metal was VERY expensive back then
why are chopsticks still used in china?didn't they invent the plow? you know they've at least seen the fork
>>18105904You can make forks out of any rigid material, even a simple twig.
>>18105797>>18105821>>18105904Are you telling me nobody back then had the idea to stab your food with something sharp and put it into your mouth? That's literally what a fork is.
>>18105797Filing the gaps was a pain in the ass.>>18106312Why not stab it with the knife?
When Byzantines introduced it to Western Europeans, they thought it was an affront to God.
>>18105904wood, bone...
>>18105821Like Egyptians and the wheel.
>>18106312Romans used a spoon called a cochlearium with a pointy end that could have been used to stab things. The other end would have been used for a lot of things we currently use forks for.
another pointy ended spoon
>>18105797A lot of the kind of food that might benefit from using a fork just didn't enter common consumption until the last few hundreds years. Common people ate the same thing day after day, and it was usually some kind of stew or porridge. In the case where fork might used today a knife or spoon would get the job done, or they just used a piece of bread, or their hands. Additionally, it *didn't* take so long for forks-like utensils to catch on when you stop thinking Euro-centric, and especially western Euro-centric.
>>18105797If you don't bother about hygiene, and people historically didn't (surgeons started washing their hands at the end of 19th century kek) then a spoon and your hands are most comfortable.It's curious why they even DID bother with chopsticks instead of using fingers. A sign of advanced civilization.
>>18105797Eating pick
>>18105797People in the past were like rural India today.
>>18105797combination of metallurgy and difficulty in crafting.A spoon is a broad end flattened them hammered concave, a fork requires precision to draw out each tine from a globule of metal then you have to hope they don't snap off when hammering the concave flat part. The precision and craftsmanship required to do such fine metalwork would've been reserved for the nobility.
>>18106498>>18106501Did they ever used it to stab each others?
>>18106506peasants typically did use fingers. Chopsticks were for the middle class upwards, don't let modern movies fool you into thinking all the classes in asia acted like the wealthier classes.
>>18106536Assuredly.
>>18106506Orientals were autistic about purity.
>>18106535>what is a mold>what is a file
>>18105797Anyone on here tried eating a whole meal with this antique styles of utensils?
Michelet said medieval peasants had like one knife for the whole house but I would take anything he wrote with a grain of salt.
>>18106711Yeah that sounds like total bullshit.
>>18106711That would make no sense because everyone needed a knife for a multitude of tasks every day. If you had no more than one knife then you had no other metal around because anything else laying around that was metal would quickly get turned into a knife by necessity.
>>18106726>>18106730He also wrote that peasants slept in the same bed so they naturally fucked their moms at night. The 19th century was crazy.
>>18106711Everyone carried a knife in the medieval Europe. Even the priests carried knives.
>>18105797Because most poor retards are soup, which is the universal poorfag food.
>>18106536...that was never prooven, it could of been anything, no cochlearium was found at the site...
>>18105797Forks were used in China 3000 years ago.
This is a fork from the first century CE.
>>18105904No it wasn't.
>>18106344Western Europeans were a backwater at the time. Byzantines looked at them the way we look at India.
>>18105797>>18105984Culture. In China the fork was invented first and later replaced by chopsticks, probably because stabbing your food is barbaric.
>>18108962There's was probably a practical half too. Richelieu invented the butter knife and precut and portioned meals to stop people from stabbing each other.