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>which makes him a false prophet of an end-of-days cult, one of many throughout historyHey, give him more credit than that. He popularized the trend! Most of the others were directly inspired by him. It's like saying Black Sabbath was one of many metal bands.
I've never understood why this is a big deal. Did Jesus not "come into his kingdom" during the Ascension? Were the Apostles not alive during the Ascension?
>>18106334>>18106346>>18106352Christ literally said he didn’t know in the following line. There are legitimate textual criticisms of the Bible but this whole “he didn’t come back in a few years” isn’t one of them.
>redditors dont missYou're telling on yourself
Have you considered that God made one guy from that generation immortal and he's still out there somewhere solely for the purpose of fulfilling the conditions?
>>18106352Not coming INTO his kingdom, coming IN his kingdom. That is, coming here and bringing the kingdom with him. Or as he says it in Mark 9:1>Truly I tell you, there are some standing here who will not taste death until they see that the kingdom of God has come with power>>18106374Anon there's not just one but multiple scenes of Jesus saying the kingdom is coming soon, not to mention it being all over the rest of the New Testament.>>18106387Mormons actually believe this.
>>18106378>who cares if I'm wrong, you're just a fat neckbeard!
>>18106352>I've never understood why this is a big deal. Did Jesus not "come into his kingdom" during the Ascension? Were the Apostles not alive during the Ascension?Paul literally writes a letter to the early church telling them that they will never die and mourning the people who sadly died just a little bit too soon to escape death.This whole passage has now been handwaved away to mean the afterlife or some shit, but, if that’s the case, then why would Paul be so upset about the people who couldn’t hold out just a little longer.Even in seminary they’ll often teach you that Paul likely expected Jesus to return within, at most, by 130 AD. This is one of those subjects were atheists seem to know the Bible better than Evangelicals because Evangys don’t talk about this in church.
>>18106392Go back
>>18106334its appears you like going on reddit, I suggest you stay there
>>18106400>Paul literally writes a letter to the early church telling them that they will never die and mourning the people who sadly died just a little bit too soon to escape death.Paul also wrote a letter saying Christ will not return until certain things occur, but the normal excuse of secularists when their theories make contact with reality is to dismiss it as a forgery, which is merely begging the question. >This whole passage has now been handwaved away to mean the afterlifeYou conveniently did not cite the passage (maybe you're so much more knowledgeable than me that you don't even know which one you're talking about) but I think it's 1 Corinthians 15:52-56. This interpretation would completely disregard the context, as I like to say, start the chapter from verse 1. 1 Corinthians is a reply to a letter from Corinth to Paul, and he frequently tells us what precisely he is reacting to throughout the epistle as is the case here. The corinthians were not mourning the dead, they were denying the final resurrection, Paul is the one who brings up the Christian dead. At no point does he claim he or anyone in his audience would be among the living he speaks of. He is speaking in general terms, and the "we" he speaks of means living Christians, not particular individuals at the time. >Even in seminary*Not* in believing seminaries. Syncretists barking in imitation of their secular leaders is meaningless.
Mark 9:1>And he said to them, “Truly I tell you, there are some standing here who will not taste death until they see that the kingdom of God has come with power.”Mark 13:30>Truly I tell you, this generation will not pass away until all these things have taken place.I'll skip the parallels of these statements in other gospels.1 Thessalonians 4:16-17>For the Lord himself, with a cry of command, with the archangel’s call and with the sound of God’s trumpet, will descend from heaven, and the dead in Christ will rise first. Then we who are alive, who are left, will be caught up in the clouds together with them to meet the Lord in the air, and so we will be with the Lord forever.Acts 2:16-17The apostles receiving the Holy Spirit is explained as fulfillment of a prophecy about the "last days."> No, this is what was spoken through the prophet Joel: ‘In the last days it will be, God declares, that I will pour out my Spirit upon all flesh,Hebrews 1:2>but in these last days he has spoken to us by a Son, whom he appointed heir of all things, through whom he also created the worlds.1 John 2:18>Children, it is the last hour! As you have heard that antichrist is coming, so now many antichrists have come. From this we know that it is the last hour.Revelation 1:1>The revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave him to show his servants what must soon take place, and he made it known by sending his angel to his servant John,Revelation 3:11>I am coming soon; hold fast to what you have, so that no one takes away your crown.Revelation 22:6-7>And he said to me, “These words are trustworthy and true, for the Lord, the God of the spirits of the prophets, has sent his angel to show his servants what must soon take place.” “See, I am coming soon! Blessed is the one who keeps the words of the prophecy of this book.”Revelation 22:20>The one who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus!
>>18106334How much black dick do you take in one day?
>>18106427Oh I just remembered another one. There's probably more I'm forgetting.1 Corinthians 7:29-31> I mean, brothers and sisters, the appointed time has grown short; from now on, let even those who have wives be as though they had none, 30 and those who mourn as though they were not mourning, and those who rejoice as though they were not rejoicing, and those who buy as though they had no possessions, 31 and those who deal with the world as though they had no dealings with it. For the present form of this world is passing away.
>>181064161 Corinthians 7:29-31> I mean, brothers and sisters, the appointed time has grown short; from now on, let even those who have wives be as though they had none, 30 and those who mourn as though they were not mourning, and those who rejoice as though they were not rejoicing, and those who buy as though they had no possessions, 31 and those who deal with the world as though they had no dealings with it. For the present form of this world is passing away.STFU CHRISLYING KIKE.
>>181064161 Thessalonians 4:13-18:But we do not want you to be uninformed, brethren, about those who are asleep [ie. dead], so that you will not grieve as do the rest who have no hope. For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so God will bring with Him those who have fallen asleep in Jesus. For this we say to you by the word of the Lord, that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord, will not precede those who have fallen asleep. For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. Then we who are alive and remain will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we shall always be with the Lord. Therefore comfort one another with these words.Paul continues (1 Thessalonians 5:1-3)Now as to the times and the epochs, brethren, you have no need of anything to be written to you. For you yourselves know full well that the day of the Lord will come just like a thief in the night. While they are saying, “Peace and safety!” then destruction will come upon them suddenly like labor pains upon a woman with child, and they will not escape.First Thessalonians is generally consider genuine and the first epistle being written by Paul. That also makes it the oldest document of the NT.As usual, Paul reacts to concerns in the communities he writes to. The passage above is thus read as a reaction to worries about those who have already died. Obviously, Paul expects at least some members of the communty to still be alive when Jesus returns, and he also expects the destruction of those not in Christ.These are clearly eschatological expectations.
was he talking about caesar?
>>18106416> Paul also wrote a letter saying Christ will not return until certain things occur, but the normal excuse of secularists when their theories make contact with reality is to dismiss it as a forgery, which is merely begging the question.You should really get better at playing Devil's Advocate in your head, it's an important mental skill. Can you perhaps this of an even better objection in your head that the infidels would make besides crying forgery?Like, come on. It's not certain until you cite the verse but obviously saying that his return has some "conditions" in place does not contradict the belief that he will come soon. The straight reading is that Paul simply believed those conditions, like is coming, would happen soon. They didn't. Be more serious about this, every time you are lazy in your thought you are sabotaging your intellectual growth.> *Not* in believing seminaries. Syncretists barking in imitation of their secular leaders is meaningless.Nobody is beholden to your stupidity. Since "syncretics" actually want to understand history as best as possible and you're just a normal moron who makes repulsive displays of pride in their own stupidity, even I as an atheist feel compelled to defend them. Shut the fuck up.
>>18106387Besides Mormons, so do the Shi'a about Imam Mahdi. It's not an uncommon exegetic reading but I imagine there are political conditions necessary for it to be desirable. Maybe one could draw similarities between the positions that the Shi'i were in and those of the Mormons when these were being codified but I unfortunately don't care enough about Mormonism to put in the effort.
>>18106334These saints are more alive than us today.
>>18106334>YO DAWG DEM REDDITORS DON'T MISS, YA FEEL MEIt is a gregious misinterpretation.Matthew 1625 For whosoeuer will saue his life, shall lose it: and whosoeuer will lose his his life for my sake, shall finde it.26 For what is a man profited, if hee shal gaine the whole world, and lose his owne soule? Or what shall a man giue in exchange for his soule?27 For the sonne of man shall come in the glory of his father, with his Angels: and then he shall reward euery man according to his works.28 Uerely I say vnto you, There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Sonne of man comming in his Kingdome.Do I have to explain it?>whosoeuer will lose his his life for my sake, shall finde it.>There be some standing here
>>18106709Very well said.
>>18106334And where’s the quote about Adam and Eve riding dinosaurs?
>>18106387https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wandering_Jew
Going to read some more of my Holy Bible after reading this thread. Thanks for the inspiration, OP.
>>18106334>that redditor upset that people interpret the scripture Jesus states he's coming back differently than the book of Genesis I notice redditors do this a lot to the Bible and seem to read it as one genre instead of a collection of different literary genres that need to be read in different ways. Are redditors reading Leviticus the same way as Revelation? Psalms and SOS the same as Timothy? Why are they always shocked people interpret one book literally and one book as a metaphor?
>>18106400Cringelord.
>>18106709an egregious*woops>>18106857the bible said it not me, you can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink
