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>richest man in history
>ruled a vast empire
>an actual kang
>no movie, novel nor fiction
>bare anyone talks about him
Why?
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>>18107231
>richest man in history
Actually I'm the richest man in history
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>muslims show up in blackest africa
>mostly just low tier chiefs that enslave neighboring tribes and eat them
>start enslaving the blacks and selling them salt
>blacks learn if they become muslim the muslims will leave them alone
>quickly the richest slavers are blacks
>salt is traded for gold and ivory since blacks have no idea its value
>eventually the entirety of west african black society is geared towards enslaving people to mine gold for you
>still have no idea the value of gold
>travel around africa shitting out gold to show how cool you are
>this is all anybody remembers blacks for
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>>18107231
>richest man in history
"wealth" =/= how many money points you possess. or else in periods of hyperinflation, I guess EVERYBODY'S RICH!!!
Gold was the greatest export of the Malian Kingdom. They had more gold per capita than anywhere else. Meaning: having "a lot of gold" in Mali was fairly meaningless compared to anywhere else on earth. They even used SEASHELLS as currency rather than gold. That's how much gold they had. To them, seashells were what made a man rich.
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Think the al-Zutt ever visited him?
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>>18107258
>>salt is traded for gold and ivory since blacks have no idea its value
Salt was really valuable back then. Before we could easily get salt from the oceans it had to be mined out of the earth, and salt was in MASSIVE demand due to it being the primary way to preserve perishable foods like meat. Pound for pound salt was worth less, but the demand for salt would’ve made trades for gold worth it pre-refrigeration.
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>>18107272
Do you not know that they could use gold to buy stuffs from other places in the world where the gold price actually mattered?
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>>18107336
>not realize sea water had salt dispite how salty it was
>for thousands of years
They really were stupid.
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>>18107336
right but if you encounter a culture that has no value for salt then what are you actually providing them? nothing, you're creating demand for a product you have a monopoly on
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>>18107373
>a culture that has no value for salt
Literally all cultures know salt's valurle. Otherwise they are ded.
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>>18107410
You're a moron, blacks didn't have salt before muslims showed them salt. That's why they were able to sell it to them for its weight in gold because they convinced them it was that valuable
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>>18107231
He was black, that's why.
Remember what happened to that Cleopatra movie casting a black actress?
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>>18107417
>blacks didn't have salt before muslims showed them salt
>meaning their bodies were able to generate salt on their own before
Truly a supreme race, right, Einstein?
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>>18107417
>blacks didn't have salt
And? That's not an argument for why salt isn't valuable. They had plenty of gold yet no salt, so supply and demand.
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>>18107437
Okay I guess you don't know what salt is used for?
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>>18107417
Something something Sodium.
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>>18107426
>Cleopatra
So was she black or white? Real answer.
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>>18107369
yes but they didn't travel. berbers were the chief middlemen for the gold road.
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>>18107440
food preservation mostly
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>>18107452
correct you already said this, meaning before the arabs showed up how were they preserving food? Smoking? also consider the climate, blacks had abundant food at all times, they didn't need food preservation. Salt was a commodity they didn't need but something they're hopelessly addicted to
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>>18107455
Curing meat is always valuable.
Abundant food =/= abundant MEAT.
Humans always crave meat. Being able to preserve it is just something we all desire because we all desire access to animal flesh.
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>>18107455
>how were they preserving food?
They weren't, which is why they needed the salt
>blacks had abundant food at all times,
Sahel climate is really bad for food cultivation and has constant droughts, its too this day one of the most food insecure regions in the world
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>>18107468
Weren't most of the kingdoms located along river systems where people mostly fished? Weren't they hollowing out giant trees to make 40 person war canoes?
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>>18107473
West African cities were along rivers for the same reason most cities are; irrigation (even ambient irrigation) and trade.
One of the worst modern memes is the Jared Diamond "erm well actually blacks didnt have agriculture" which is inadvertently racist to blacks despite it being meant to denigrate wypipo.
West Africa has had agriculture and animal husbandry (chiefly small goats, eventually cows) for millennia.
picrel is mostly accurate but I'm unsure if there is enough archaeological evidence from the Congo specifically.
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>>18107483
sahel traders were an entirely different race to the bantus and their kingdoms never extended into the interiors. Mali was different because it was composed in large part of non bantu afro-arab and euro-berber traders
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>>18107450
>yes but they didn't travel
Yeah. Those who controlled the most important trade routes in the world didn't travel.
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>>18107495
>euro-berber traders
das rite, we wuz malians
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>>18107505
More like "we wuz camel jockeys carrying beans"
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>>18107504
they didnt control the routes. berbers did
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>>18107455
>Salt was a commodity they didn't need but something they're hopelessly addicted to
Wrong. Salt is valuable not due to food preservation, but because it's vital to life. Without it you die due to the resulting condition called hyponatremia, which is a severe lack of sodium in the blood. This can lead to a breakdown of bodily functions, including nerve and muscle failure, resulting in symptoms like muscle cramps, confusion, seizures, coma, and eventually death.
So all groups of humans had to know salt, otherwise they would have been wiped out.
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>>18107508
The berbers in this case were tuaregs which are just black arabs
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>>18107545
Why do you think butterflies lick dried up piss
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>>18107551
fair enough but my point is that it wasn't Malians that were traveling across the desert, and definitely not across the world. Mansa Musa stands out because was an exception to the RULE.
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>>18107244
Checked
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>>18107585
But they had boats.
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>>18107231
Because he is just a meme. Whether he was that rich is disputable.
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>>18107336
let him spin his own version. this is /his/ where trannies and jeets take their shot at historical analysis about topics they maybe watched an AI slop video on
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>>18108463
right the people that were bragging about reaching "chieftain" level development had salt mining
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>>18107231
Solomon richer but prolly scandal.
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Imagine if he held gold until 2025
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>>18107231
He looks like some dude coming traight out of Detroit.
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>>18107231
Isn't it funny how the only physical remains of this "great" kangdon are these primitive ugly terracotta figures? Picrel. If this was the real wakanda kangs think it was why hasn't anything even survived from it? All the shitty mud buildings in Mali aren't original they are late 19th century reconstructions and there isn't even any art that has survived from this guys kangdom so much for black "civilization" kek. Plus Musa had Arabs do everything for him, all of these "great" mosques and "universities" were built by an Andalusi Arab Abu Ishaq al-Sahili that was probably part white(Spanish) kek.

These figures also show most of the "people" living in this kangdom were naked savages and Arab wannabes weren't actually the norm yet kek.
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>>18109478
It's fantasy. Most mandinkas were naked savages in this "empire" only rich kangs dressed up in Arab garb the average groid in this "civilization" looked like they came straight out of the Congo wearing loincloths and using bows with poison arrows lmao
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>>18108454
Even if his country had a shit load of gold it's like saying some gangster rapper is advanced and sophisticated because he is covered in bling n shiet. Without the help of the Arabs these kangs wouldn't have even been able to build an economy off of the gold mining.
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>>18107231
Liberal history professors never shut up about him, because he's basically the only significant example of a very powerful wealthy sub-saharan king who's wealth/power may be similar to Euro royalty. Most "kangs" aren't anything more than a small tribal chieftains.


>richest man in history
The richest slave-owner in history who's sold more slaves than anyone who has ever existed. Basically, he organized a vast slave trade network going from Mali to the Middle East.

But muh gold mines.
>slave run gold mines.
Mansa Musa had a lot of gold, but despite liberal historian's revision, most of it came from slavery and not his gold mines.
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>>18109532
But all his so called extravagance came from the islamic world not from his primitive west African roots. Mansa Musa was known to exclusively dress in Arab garb, silk robes with a turban.
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>>18109532
>Mansa Musa had a lot of gold, but despite liberal historian's revision, most of it came from slavery and not his gold mines.
This. The wakanda they imagine was a brutal slave state that was probably responsible for hundreds of thousands of black deaths.
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>>18109539
And whites inherit their customs, laws and entire culture from the Romans. No civilization can randomly develop out of nothing, lil timmy.
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This drawing encapsulates a common theme in precolonial Africa. On the left an Arab wannabe in this case a Swahili on the right a natural African how he is supposed to be. For some reason afrocentrists and lefttards only like the guy on the left and prefer the one on the right didn't exist lmao
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>>18109553
The Romans were white you dumb leftoid picrel is a fucking white man. Germanic people's were rural people, Romans were urbanites. They basically had the same technology(wheels, hinges, carts, nails, hammers and much more) again the Romans introduces technology and cultural habits to the Germanics was just one group of tanned white people teaching another group of pale white people.
>laws
Bullshit our laws today mostly derive from iron age Germanic law. Look up the 'thing assembly' it's more similar to modern democracy than so-called greek democracy.
>entire culture
What a load of horse shit, modern European clothings styles are far more similar to Celtic/Germanic clothing then to Roman clothing fuck stick.
>No civilization can randomly develop out of nothing, lil timmy
Well it did by Caucasian people in the Levant, Ukraine and Anatolia.
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>>18109561
Also Norse civilization was also independently developed. Tell me picrel isn't a civilisation I dare you leftoids.
>Inbf Roman influence
Rome had no influence on Norse urban development, it was something that appeared completely independently. There are Roman influences on the Norse but they are very subtle and have nothing to do with architecture.
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>>18109561
>saaar we wuz romans
We have depictions of them and they had even higher EEF ancestry than modern italians so they were significantly more darker colored
>Bullshit our laws today mostly derive from iron age Germanic law.
Germonkey savages didn’t even have a written language to write down any laws
>modern European clothings styles are far more similar to Celtic/Germanic clothing then to Roman clothing fuck stick.
Depends on which clothing, if we’re talking clothing suites to a colder climate than yes since the Mediterranean wasn’t a frozen shithole
>Well it did by Caucasian people in the Levant, Ukraine and Anatolia
Ukraine had no civilization kek, rest is due to a more suitable climate for crops cultivation
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>>18109575
What is this ai-generated collection of some shithuts made by primitive ooga boogas with no written language supposed to prove?
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>>18109575
One major hallmark of civilization are temples and of course a written language the Norse had both of these. Also see below.
>Urban Centers (Cities)
Check
>Centralized Government / Political Organization
Check
>Social Stratification
Check
>Specialized Labor / Occupations
Check
>Complex Economy / Trade
Check
>Record-Keeping / Writing Systems
Check
>Monumental Architecture / Public Works
Check pic related
>Religion / Ideology
Check
>Arts and Culture
Check
>Technological Innovation
Check(Knar cargo ships are the direct ancestors of all modern western ships, pelorus navigation device, Clinker-built hulls, sunstone and many more)
>Military / Defense
Check

The Norse had a civilization and it was independently developed.
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>>18109579
>We have depictions of them
Like pic related yeah brown people right. Don't you dare bring up the portraits of Egyptians, THEY WERE NOT ETHIC ITALIANS!
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>>18109520
Weren't Malians black Arabs?
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>>18109587
They didn’t have any of that, not even a written language lmao
>>18109592
Women were depicted as lighter skinned because it was a trait associated with femininity, this is why nordcucks never post depictions of men.
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>>18109584
That's a drawing of Hedeby you low iq Indian rat. Ai image generation didn't exist when that was made if you can't tell the difference between ai and a real image you are retarded.
Also vikings lived in mostly wooden houses picrel with alot of them having shingled roofs not shithuts like your primitive Dravidian dalit ancestors lived in.
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>>18109579
>Germonkey savages didn’t even have a written language to write down any laws
Are you mentally retarded? How are you this ignorant? Oh you're an Indian that's why.
Why don't you learn how to Google before you embarrass yourself next time?
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>>18109532
>he's basically the only significant example of a very powerful wealthy sub-saharan king who's wealth/power may be similar to Euro royalty
Remember king of African kings, who had so much gold that threatened the hegemony of the dollar?
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>>18109579
>Mediterranean wasn’t a frozen shithole
And that's why it was so easy to develop a civilization there jeet.
>Ukraine had no civilization kek
Yes it did jeetmonkey picrel kys. The very first cities were built in Ukraine if you are too dumb and ignorant to know this that's nobody's problem jeet.
Google Cucuteni–Trypillia culture.
https://youtu.be/jkVtlvC3tPE?si=Y3QUNDrwoJVm5Rf4
This YouTuber is an archeologist btw.
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>>18109596
Culturally they are now quasi-arabs. But in Mansa Musa's time most of them still looked like authentic Africans.
>>18109507
>>18109517
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>>18109606
NTA but technically, "Ukraine" wasn't even a thing until being invented recently, the people living there were originally Rus.
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>>18109598
>They didn’t have any of that
Basically nah ah, you're a litteral mental toddler.
You don't even know about the rune alphabet, that's how retarded you are.
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>>18109598
Yeah just they were out in the sun alot like this swedish man lmao. Is he now non-white because he has a tan? You really are a special one aren't you?
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>>18109598
Roman man on the right. Doesn't he look exactly like your average brown pajeet or Arab? Lmao
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>>18109616
Completely irrelevant, the people who built that civilization were Europeans similar to meds(Italians, Spaniards)
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>>18109601
Thats not an actual alphabet but words for shit germonkeys did like hunting animals or shitting in the woods. This is why they adopted the Roman alphabet
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>>18109628
Nah, they were clearly Slavs.
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>>18109636
Sort of they even had genes from steppe people's so they weren't fully med and did actually have some northie in them.
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-020-61190-0
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>>18109622
>muh stone carvings
>>18109624
>cherrypicked nordcuck
Why didn’t you post a blonde, blue-eyed guy? Too white to be considered Roman?
>>18109626
He looks like a medbvll
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>>18109635
>Nah ah nah ah
Wow impressive counter argument
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because it goes against the narrative that only whites have created civilizations
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>>18109639
>Muh stone carvings
You literally are a toddler atleast mentally. You have the mental and developmental maturity of a 3 year old. You're prevented with facts and you just start crying in disbelief.
>Too white to be considered Roman?
Like these Roman emperor's? One with blue eyes and the other with red hair and pale skin kek
>He looks like a medbvll
He has brown hair and white skin with a slight tan, he's a white man. Also you are not a med jeet/favela monkey/mudslime
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>>18109644
The Malians didn't develop a civilization lmao. They just adopted Arab/berber style urban development through trade.
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>>18109644
>goes against the narrative that only whites have created civilizations
Egypt was among the oldest civs though.
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>>18109640
You’re free to list some notable literary works produced in this germonkey alphabet to prove me wrong.
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>>18109645
>You're presented
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>>18109650
Ok here you go.
>Rök Runestone contains around 760 runes, making it the longest known runic text. Its text is poetic, cryptic, and mythological, possibly commemorating a dead son and containing riddles or heroic references.
The incas had literally no written language whatsoever. Did you know that?
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>>18109649
Egyptians my not have been white(some may have been) but they were Caucasians, the same racial group.
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>>18109645
>You literally are a toddler atleast mentally. You have the mental and developmental maturity of a 3 year old. You're prevented with facts and you just start crying in disbelief.
Stone carvings are not literary works, written words to describe ooga boogas shitting in the woods is not an alphabet.
>Like these Roman emperor's? One with blue eyes and the other with red hair and pale skin kek
“reconstructions” by xitter nordicists, no roman emperor was described as blonde or ginger
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>>18109661
>“reconstructions” by xitter nordicists,
A litteral Italian man made the reconstruction hahahahahahaha
https://youtu.be/lsu69q56ops?si=S9eOQpzevthKNFnV
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>>18109661
>no roman emperor was described as blonde or ginger

Suetonius, The Twelve Caesars (Nero), c. 121 CE
“He was ruddy of complexion, with reddish hair, round face, and delicate features.”
(“Rutilus in vultu, crinibusque rubicundus, vultu rotundo, generoso.” – paraphrased)

Why do you keep doing this? Only extremely stupid "person" would make a baseless claim like that without even googling or verifying it. Do you have self awareness? Are you proud of being dumb and ignorant? It seems like it.
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>>18109661
>Cassius Dio, Roman History, Book 62

>“He had a fair, rather reddish complexion, and his body was well-formed but feminine in appearance.”
(Dio emphasizes the unusual nature of his look among Romans.)

Ladies and gentleman we are dealing with a grown "man" with the developmental maturity of a 3 year old toddler lmao. A moron who doesn't know how to Google basic things and doesn't even know what rune is.
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>>18109661
>Tacitus, Annals (regarding Nero’s youth)

>“He was handsome, but with an effeminate and delicate appearance; his skin was pale and his hair somewhat reddish.”

>Tacitus doesn’t focus as much on hair, but notes his unusual coloring and delicate features.

Go on embarrass yourself again you'll just keep getting btfo kek.
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>>18107336
Other way around
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>>18109674
>>18109676
>>18109678
>>18109679
This has been debunked as a mistranslation, timothy.
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>>18109587
>written language
Why dont you take a gander at where the runic script derived from, bud...
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>>18109686
>This has been debunked as a mistranslation, timothy
Because you just pulled that out of your arse right there and then? Go on show me a source supporting your claim.
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>>18107445
>was she black or white?
No
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>>18109687
Why don't you do the same with Latin dumb fuck?
Oh no looks like the Romans didn't have a written language lmao nice logic toddler
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>>18109687
Also it's likely that Mayan script was heavily influenced by Teotihuacano symbols. So by your logic the Mayans didn't have a civilization because their script largely came from elsewhere.
Also rune was absolutely not the same as Latin or phoenician, it was more or less an independent invention because of how unique it is compared to it's parent systems. Look at them side by side these are totally different writing systems.
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>>18107445
Are you fucking serious? How are there people this ignorant and stupid on a history board? Cleopatra was literally a greek she was fully GREEK!! from a fucking inbred greek dynasty. Black Egyptians existed but they were not indigenous to Egypt atleast not the north where the civilisation was centered. Most were nubians, nubians themselves were not fully black either but a mix between West Asians and East Africans(nilotes).
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>>18109710
>Genetic studies of ancient Nubian populations, including those from the Meroitic Kingdom period, reveal a mixed ancestry of both Nilotic-related and West Eurasian-related components, with evidence suggesting a disproportionate female contribution to the West Eurasian ancestry. This indicates significant migration and admixture between the region and its neighbors, like Egypt, which was influenced by contact with the Near East. While modern Nubian populations show a strong Nilotic genetic continuity, the Meroitic period population gene pool was shaped by these earlier admixture events
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>>18107417
>blacks didn't have salt before muslims showed them salt
proofs?
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>>18109656
>The incas had literally no written language whatsoever
nta, but they had quipas. Nobody has deciphered the ones that aren't just counting llama herds though.
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>>18109660
>Egyptians
>Caucasians
Ok, history revisionism then.
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>>18109827
>We wuz kangs
Hahahaha the premise here is that you deny all of genetic studies of mummies as apart of some white supremacist
/Arab conspiracy. I'm not going to engage with a lunatic with a low iq who believes in fairy tales.
Also those are supposed to be nubians in that painting funny thing is nubians weren't and aren't black like that. Nubians are mixed race and have been for thousands of years picrel. I'm sorry kang but blacks have never developed an advanced culture wakanda isn't real.
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>>18109794
>quipas
That's just some kind of military code system right? Nothing compared to a written language
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>>18107231
No way he was richer than Augustus. Augustus has to be the richest guy in history. Aside from his massive fortune, he personally owned all if egypt. He was our equivalent of a multitrillionaire
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>>18107244
>richest man in history
>rules a history board
>an actual dubs kang
>no movie, novel nor fiction
>barely anyone replies to him
Why?
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>>18109854
>That's just some kind of military code system right?
it's generally thought to have been used in a more general administrative sense in the Incan empire. Also, a numerological version was used by herdsmen to count their llama herds, so it isn't a stretch to assume that the more complex versions could've achieved wide-spread use among commoners. Like I said though, the only ones that have been translated properly are just the ones used to count the llamas, so there's not a lot we know for certain.
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>>18107244
HOLY CRAP!!! IT'S ELON FREAKING MUSK
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>>18109917
What I find crazy is how this super advanced civilization with very modern style houses didn't have a functional script. Teotiuacano symbols could have eventually evolved Into a type of hieroglyphic but they didn't. It's crazy the residential architecture in this civilization was even more advanced then that of the Aztecs but yet they couldn't invent a script and were stone age.
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>>18109933
It proves you don't need a written language to qualify as a civilization as long as you have all the other hallmarks ticked off. The Inca proved that of course.
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>>18109851
Yeah. True. Except that actual status of Pharaohs back then had explicit black features. Unlike those "genetic studies", actual evidences don't lie anon.
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>>18109851
>>18110036
Picrel.
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>>18110036
>black features.
What are black features? Big lips like this Egyptian man has? You realise that when we say the "Egyptians weren't black" we aren't aren't saying they didn't have subsaharan genes? Of course they did and those genes even a minute amount can cause otherwise Caucasoid people to have negroid features.

Egyptians were black in the sense that they had on average 5 percent possibly more) negroid DNA.
And these black Egyptians weren't even related to you Tyrone. You are a west/central African, they were east Africans(Nilotic).

Again use some common sense and take your pills, there's no white/Arab conspiracy to hide black Egyptians.
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>>18107231
Because it underscores how sad Africa is
>richest man in history
>absolutely NOTHING to show for it
>no architectural wonders
>no technological advancements
>no judicial projects
>no statebuilding
>but he did show off his wealth to everyone!!!!
Same exact thing as a nigger showcasing his shoe collection thinking he's the richest negro in the city
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>>18110039
Tell me were there green and gold skinned Egyptians?
Black was a symbolic colour to the Egyptians it symbolised Fertility, regeneration, life, the rich Nile silt; also the color of the underworld and rebirth. It was also considered to just be beautiful.

Take your meds, lay off the crack pipe there's so conspiracy by evil whitey/arabs to hide black Egyptians.
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>>18107231
Because he got what they call "n-word rich" and blew his entire nation's wealth on strippers and nikes on his burfday trip.
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>>18110070
How do you know he left nothing? What if someone burried his legacy?
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>>18107231
Here's the most impressive thing he left behind.
A movie about him would have to go full revisionist in order to make the Mali "empire" seem impressive.
Otherwise it would just be crushing negro delusions and humiliating them further than they already are.
Hence why it's a touchy topic
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>>18107369
They were isolated behind a desert and their only contact with the oustide word were the occasional caravans.
Their actual ability to buy stuff was fairly limited and their overall purchasing power was pretty shitty compared to Europeans countries with less gold in the same era.
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maybe if he built something more than a couple of sandcastles he would be more remembered.
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>>18107609
They had river canoes that they used for internal travel inside Mali.
They had no sea ships and they didn't even discover the Cap Verde islands a few miles of their coast.
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>>18110490
>What if someone burried his legacy?
More likely was no one cared to preserve it
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>>18110505
The most impressive thing he left behind was the shaping of an entire region and it's culture, establishing a lasting legacy of a civilization of immense wealth, transforming Timbuktu into a major intellectual and cultural center, and heavily influencing trans-saharan trade.
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>>18109648
>They just adopted Arab/berber style urban development through trade.
That's like saying Anglos didn't develop civilization because they adopted Roman/Med style written language, advanced agricultural practices, architecture, and urban development through conquest.
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>>18110490
>buried his legacy
This isn't 4000bce we're talking about
If his legacy is able to be buried in a timespan less than a milennia, it's not much of a legacy.
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ugly ass nigger
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>>18110638
cool it with the pleonasms
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Except European colonialism deliberately wanted to destroy any evidence that civilizations other than theirs existed. They erased countless cultures all over Africa and South America.
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>>18107258
>>travel around africa shitting out gold to show how cool you are

Some things never change
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>>18112152
Pure bullshit
19th century European colonialists did as much as they could to preserve and uncover Africa's precolonial history.
Most of what we know about the Mali Empire (besides the few contemporary arab accounts) comes from the work of French archeologists during the colonial period.
They even restored that one mosque that gets posted by afrocentrist wankers on every corner of the internet...
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>Ryan Coogler and Michael B. Jordan are producing a film about Mansa Musa, the historical 14th-century emperor of the Mali Empire. The project is still in development, and while details are scarce, it is expected to be a major production that will showcase African history and the story of Mansa Musa's immense wealth and influence.

>They really are making a movie about him
>By the dudes who made Black Panther
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>>18107231
>west bans slavery
>kang empire crumbles
Blackpeepoo explain?
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>>18112402
It crumbled long before that.
Basically as soon as Moroccan arabs bothered actually sending an army across the desert, they easily destroyed this mud "empire" and looted all its gold
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>>18112326
It's going to be an anachronistic mess like that warrior queen movie isn't it.
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>>18110562
>That's like saying Anglos didn't develop civilization because they adopted Roman/Med style written language, advanced agricultural practices, architecture, and urban development through conquest.
Not the same thing at all anglos actually massively improved on the Roman model pic related. What did Malians improve on? Nothing they built primitive mud buildings that only lasted a century or so if that. Also it was actually an Andalusi architect who built these "great" mosques and universities lmao.
My point is they invented and developed nothing new, their "civilization"(Arab trade hub lol) was just an inferior version of a north African mud village. Anglos invented basically everything you see around you on the other hand.
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>>18110505
That's a modern reconstruction built in the late 19th century. No one actually knows what it looked like in Mansa Musa's time I'd say it was more impressive but not much also an Andalusi architect was responsible for it's design and construction. Picrel is how it looked in the middle 19th century.
Notice how different the minaret is? There was also more ornamentation.
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>>18112664
Pic is a berber mud mosque from North Africa.
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>>18112672
Similar ornamentation, the same arched window on the minaret, similar spire and very similar mudbrick under the lime plaster.
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>>18112674
West African mosques like this one are far more authentically African. This is actually a genuine African design with very minimal Arab/beber influence.
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>>18107551
>The berbers in this case were tuaregs which are just black arabs
incorrect
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>>18112763
Are you sure about that?
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>>18112766
hardly black, thats a mixed man, tuarges had a racial caste with black slaves(ikelan) at the bottom, also got nothing to do with ayrabs
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>>18112776
>Berber/Arab
Same thing, West Eurasians
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>>18112782
they are not interchangable
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>>18112785
Sometimes they are, point being both are Caucasoid west Eurasian people so naturally they bring civilization and culture whereas negroids bring the opposite kek.
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>>18112787
Watch the cope as the kangs try to claim he's black lmao. The vast amount of Arabs/Berbers in west Africa keeps them up at night lmao
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>>18107231
>richest man in history
pic related
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>>18110507
So that whole shtick about Mansa Musa going on an adventure giving out gold to poor hwites was a lie?
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>>18109702
Teotihuacanos and Mayans are the same race, Egyptians and Nordics are not the same race, sorry timmy but snowniggers didn't invent writing or civilization independently
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>>18107244
My kang....
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>>18112815
You ignore the science. Everyone on the planet came from sub Sahara African. Some are mutted more than others with some local ape.
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>>18112814
He's full of shit like all afrocentrists and leftists. Mali was intimately connected to the Arab world throughout trade.
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>>18112815
>Teotihuacanos and Mayans are the same race
How in the fuck is that relevent?
>snow niggers didn't invent writing
They basically did because rune was totally different to it's parent system again.
>or civilization
I already proved the Norse developed a civilization listing all the hallmarks >>18109587
Screaming "nah ah" like a 3 year old is not an argument mestizo
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>>18112664
>That's a modern reconstruction built in the late 19th century.
It's not, you clown.
You're confusing with the Djenne Mosque (which was rebuilt into a bigger, more advanced version by the French in 1907).
The Djinguereber Mosque isn't recorded to have ever been reconstructed.

>Picrel is how it looked in the middle 19th century. Notice how different the minaret is? There was also more ornamentation.
That's just the same building shown from a more flattering angle with better looking textures and details and a more impressive impled scale than the real thing, like pretty much all European drawings of African buildings.
That minaret shown on your drawing still exists.
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>>18112899
>They basically did because rune was totally different to it's parent system again.
Doesn't matter, the idea of using symbols to transcribe meaning was copied from another brown race, therefore euronigs didn't invent writing
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>>18113323
Ok so by your "logic" will you concede that the Romans and Greeks also didn't invent writing dumbass?
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>>18113323
>brown race
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! italians are not brown you shitskin subhuman.
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>>18113310
You can very obviously see the tower has been replaced by an inferior one dumbass
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>>18113325
Yeah they literally didn't you massive retard, writing was independently invented only in a handful of places
>>18113333
>italians are not brown
Doubt.jpg
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>>18107231
Well, it’s a bit of a misconception. That’s why almost nobody talks about it. I mean, liberals and black people do to heckin’ own the problematic chuds, but it’s just a talking point, which distracts from any interesting history we might otherwise find about Mali because it’s been politicized.

See, Mansa Musa wasn’t really the richest man on Earth, (the historical region of) Mali was a massive hub for gold mining so much so that the Moroccans reached all the way down there to try and get in in it, that’s why Timbuktu was Berber.

All of “Mansa Musa’s wealth” was just his country’s gold resources and reserves. So, it would be like if tomorrow the King or Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia declares that all the oil reserves and oil under the ground not yet extracted is his personal posession.

People speak of how he went to Egypt and gave out gold to everyone he saw, but this isn’t actually a good thing, because there was so much fucking gold in Mali and he gave away so much to so many poor peasants that it crashes the economy and devalued gold drastically, actually creating more suffering.

People made a show about Mansa Musa and the Mali Empire, but like I mentioned it’s a racially charged resentment fantasy movie, some little white kid time travels and ends up in his court and when he says he’s from England they all freak out and cover their noses and ask him if his people bathe. That’s the problem, anti-white people only include Mansa Musa in conversation to insult white people over racial grievances.

We would need a mature, non-political documentary to restore this. It’s like when Netflix released a show about Cleopatra where they said it would try to be historically accurate as possible, and they invited on a black supremacist historical revisionist who said Cleopatra wuz blacc and wypipo ain’t want yhu to know dis, and depicted her as a mulatto and half the population of Egypt as West African
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>>18113323
It's a Norse invention because it differs enormously to the parent system again mestizo pic related. It came from Latin but have a look at how different it is.
It's like saying Edison didn't invent the light because some of the components were invented by others it's fucking dumb and you are a retard.
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>>18113341
>Doubt.jpg
"Nah ah" you are a toddler

So what's with all these Italian football players with dark blonde hair?
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>>18113341
Italians and the romans are and were literally quasi-celts who speak a similar language to Celtic languages. They are from the same stock as Western Europeans Indo-European/neolithic farmer. They are WHITE/European something you will never be.
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>>18113339
I hope you're trolling because if you're not you're one very retarded kang.
Tower is the same as always, drawings were always attempting to make these buildings look better, bigger and more polished than the real deal.
The Djingereber mosque isn't recorded to have undergone any major change.
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>>18107258
If you think that’s embarrassing, wait until learn black history in America.
>Lost wars against other black tribes, enslaved by their tribal enemies
>Brought over as slaves in Jewish owned ships and bought by Spanish and Portuguese because they feel bad enslaving the injuns, and bought by English because Irish slaves keep dying in the hot son
>the first slave owner of blacks in the original Anglo 13 colonies was literally a black man.
>men are whipped and buckbroken by Jewish homosexuals for the next 150 years. The women are rape fodder so much that 10-15% of all black dna is Eurasian today
>clowned on 24/7 as being goofy monkey subhumans by every other race
>Needed bleeding-heart Anglo-Saxon liberals from New England to advocate their better treatment
>150,000 Euro-American Whites die in order to free them. Blacks were too weak to rebel themselves. Blacks literally needed saved by White peoples and that’s exactly what happened
>every White person too exhausted by the war or too opportunistic to care about them after the war passed. End up under Jim Crow laws for another 100 years
>Get taught by Euro-American Whites how to play music. Euro-American Whites give them saxophones, trumpets, pianos, etc to play out of the goodness of their hearts.
>Blacks make Blues (same root as bluegrass) and jazz.
>Jewish usurers sign them record deals and take all their money.
>Glowies use blacks to destroy Irish, Polish, German, and Italian urban Catholic communities by bussing them in from the cotton fields of Alabama to the Big Cities, just because they view tight-net Euro-American ethnic communities as a foil to their power.
>Black men abandon their children after the civil rights act, decide to keep themselves in a state of perpetual ignorance and poverty for no discernible reason.
>The mafia and CIA take advantage of black section-8 housing and sell them drugs
>Black ego needs to wewuz LARP as everything and steal history to feel superior.
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>>18113384
If this isn't white I don't know what it is. It sure as hell isn't brown lmao fucking dumb fuck.
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>>18113364
HOLY FUCK you're one retarded snownigger animal
That analogy is fucking retarded, that would be like saying that the guy that invented LED lights (Nick Holonyak) invented THE original lightbulb because he modified an existing idea, no dipshit, he invented the LED light, not the lightbulb, NIGGER.
Writing was ADAPTED by snowniggers, not invented by them. Stop trying to change the meaning of words like a tranny you absolute FAGGOT
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>>18112664
>>18113310
>>18113339
>>18113388
Btw François Louis Couche never set a fucking foot in Timbuktu or even Africa.
He drew this entirely from Rene Caille's descriptions and maybe some quick sketches made by him.
Expecting a perfect accuracy in these conditions is retarded.
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>>18109624
This is not a Med. He has Asiatic features typical of the Nordgoloid.
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>>18113371
Italians are brown MENA mongrels, barely whiter than iberians since at least they don't have nigger admixture like spaniarabs and moortuguese
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I hate spics so much, it's unreal
all they ever do is go around screaming about race in the most insecure self-conscious way imaginable
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>>18112656
>What did Malians improve on? Nothing
I mean according to google they built a water irrigation system improved upon the "qanat" system from berber traders and refined smelting techniques and also caused a proliferation of Sudeo-Sahelian architecture to spread across western africa and spreading islam and tons of institutional knowledge through most of western africa.
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>>18113399
Zamn.
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>>18113426
That's literally a Mulatto dumb shit that's not an Italian.
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>>18113407
>That analogy is fucking retarded, that would be like saying that the guy that invented LED lights (Nick Holonyak) invented THE original lightbulb because he modified an existing idea, no dipshit
Wow the projection from a mental midget. No that is absolutely not what I'm saying shit skin. Warren de la Rue (1840) invented a platinum filament in a vacuum tube for instance, Edison used one of his components to invent the lightbulb and he used many more components from other inventors as well. Bringing Nick Holonyak is so painfully retarded because he had no role in Edison's lightbulb you smooth brained injun.
Rune was developed by the Norse and by Germanics alone it is unique to them.

I'm not saying they invented a whole writing system dipshit I'm saying they invented RUNE by itself.
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>>18113652
I’m not the guy you were replying to but he’s not a mulatto, lol. That’s Luigi Mangione, the killer of the United Healthcare CEO. Both his parents are Italian
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>>18113681
Well the spic deliberately found the swarthiest photo he could.
Also
>The name is common in southern Italy, primarily in Apulia and Sicily.
There's your answer there mestizo he is Sicilian like a lot of Italian Americans. Sicilians have mixes from the Greeks, the Phoenicians and Arabs using Sicilians is dishonest as fuck and of course that's what you did.
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>>18113700
>using Sicilians is dishonest as fuck and of course that's what you did.
I didn’t do anything, lol. I never implied Italians aren’t white. I’m not the guy you originally replied to
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>>18113700
Also my 1/8th Italian ancestry is from Molise and Lombardy, I am well aware that Sicilians aren’t white kek
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>>18113707
I know I'm not talking about you I'm talking to favela monkey. The second paragraph was aimed at him.
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>>18113712
Ah
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>>18113652
nope, that's just how italians look, although I agree, they look like niggers
>>18113676
>all of that snownigger cope
snowtroons didn't invent writing, they were literal snowniggers in that sense
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>>18113399

European culture is Black culture

and the white man is the animal provided accomodation at behest of his masters

youre welcome
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>>18113721
>nope, that's just how italians look, although I agree, they look like niggers
He's a Sicilian big difference.
>they look like niggers
He >>18113371 looks like a nigger?
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>>18109561


Whites were slaves in Rome, not romans

White have no heritage or history beyond being managed and provided a mask to wear to compensate

youre welcome
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>>18113724
Except it's the opposite.
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>>18113724
Ah so you're just a nigger then? you must be the kang that thinks the moors and Egyptians were black kek
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>>18113738

white culture doesnt exist

Youre a plug and play golem functioning within. a paradigm imposed on to you

thus begins the white "mans" place in the world
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>>18113733
Those are Egyptians not Italians nigger. Why can't you monkeys think about anything else other than dicks and base level animalistic shit? oh of course it's because you are animals duh
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>>18113739

whites were enslaved in these regions resuting in mongrelization

and that was the extent of your contribution
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>>18112899
>>18113676
Adapting a pre-existing writing system to create a new one =/= invented writing.
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>>18113747
>white culture doesnt exist
Everything you are doing right now, everything around were designed and built by white men. You are a literal animal this is such pathetic cope lmao.
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>>18113750

romans residing within empire

\ indicative of the palendmntium cape worn by roman legionnaire, some greeks and egyptians interspersed but the phenotypes are relatively convergent accounting for rampant misgenation
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>>18113757


you have nothing that isnt given to you
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>>18113752
it's the other way around kang. Your natural state is to always be a slave you're reversing history as a form of therapy it's so pathetic lmao. Whenever you here about kangs in ancient Egypt or kangs in the Moorish realms its always in the context of slaves because your race is pathetic and weak.
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>>18113768

the term "slave" is derivative of white identity considering it was your historical lot

now youre "house slaves"
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>>18113755
Invented rune dumbass not a writing system in general. Why is this so hard for you to understand? a simple adaptation would be like our English writing system which still uses the same Latin letters, the Norse created something entirely new dumbass it's not that hard to understand.
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>>18113747
>white culture doesnt exist
All culture is White culture included this website and the device you are using to communicate with along with the language and alphabet.
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>>18113758
>we wuz romanz n shiet
Nigger fairy tales. That's a tanned Italian man kind of like this tanned Swedish guy >>18109624 lmao
Romans like emphasizing the color deference in men and women.
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>>18113730
>He >>18113371 # looks like a nigger?
He has significant nonwhite MENA admixture like all shitalians, it's like african americans, they might look "black" but they're all plantation rapebabies
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>>18113799

>the Device
Atlantean (derivative)

>the website
Federal

>Alphabet
Phonecian
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>>18113785
NTA you've been arguing with. You saying they "basically" invented writing because runic is so different doesn't really change the fact that it's adapted from a script that existed prior. That is not an independent invention by definition
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>>18113801

its a mixed mongrel

those phenotypes dont exist absent of race mixing and the region is defined by it
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>>18113771
It comes from slav nigger. Are the slavs the only white people?
This pic related look like slavery to you nigger? lmao this is like a therapy session for you pretending the opposite of the reality is reality lmao.
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>>18113806
>Atlantean
White
>Federal
White
>Phonecian
Latin (Also Phoenicians were White-skinned verified on physical evidence from the era anyway).

HMPH!
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>>18113785
oh wow they invented some ooga booga scribbles based on an already existing idea that was already thousands of years old, snownigger excellence
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>>18112766
Desert folk back then were less negro than today. In places like Socotra and Sudan ancient samples look much more Eurasian than today. They took a bunch of black wives recently which changed them.
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>>18113812
It's an Italian man with a tan. They are emphasizing the difference between roman men and women, its stylistic. You are too dumb to understand art.

There were no niggers in roman Italia.
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>>18113815

>what is a golem

the white man was colonized first, now you serve the agendas of your masters and thats the extent of your contribution

Europa is named after a Black regal, remember that
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>>18113821
>Black rega
A Sematic Regal you fool.
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>>18113816

none of the above were white

also that picture is fake
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>>18113758
That doesn't mean they weren't aware of what's happening and didn't know who their own people were.

Juvenals quote:
Non est Romano cuiquam locus hic.

There is no place for a Roman in Rome.
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>>18113820

cute
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>>18113809
Adaptation is us using Latin script for English dumbass. The Germanics had a totally different philosophy in regards to how they used Rune and it was not the same writing system for the last fucking time it was something NEW!
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>>18113817
in most parts of the world there was no writing nigger.
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>>18113414
You are the lowest troglodyte. Asian refers to Roman neighbors, so considering their genetic makeup Mediterraneans have closer affinity to Asia, you idiot. Allowing browns like you on to our Internet was a mistake.
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>These guys aren't White n sheeit, I asked jewgle gemini and it said founder fathers were black women n sheeit.
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>>18113833

>America

a meme construct to redefine cont3xt for this current syntheic age of fake and gay
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>>18113821
>the white man was colonized first
When? in your nigger fairy tales? in your therapeutic fantasies? lmao
The Germanics were never conquered by the romans it was the other way around lmao, Visigoths became the fucking rulers of Italy and Spain. The romans weren't colonizing white people in Gaul or Britain because they are white people that doesn't make any sense and colonization as you "understand" it wasn't a thing in the 1st century.
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>>18113842

germanics were pawn in a controlled demolition of Rome

secondly, Blacks built your dynasties hence the reemergence of the HRE
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>>18113841
It's funny how you bring up gay a lot when you are the one constantly thinking about black "men's" dicks lmao
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>Blacks built your dynasties hence the reemergence of the HRE
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
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>>18113859
What? a photo in poor light? and I agree there are alot of swarthy british people but this is related to the neolithic farmers not kangz. Melanin doesn't equal black people kang, maybe you should actually learn what melanin is.
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>>18113828
You misunderstand. Im not denying that Runic is its own unique writing script, distinct from Latin. What Im saying is that it was derived from prior scripts, and this is a simple fact and the reason one cannot say Germanics independently invented writing. Latin is clearly different from Phoenician, but it's still adapted from it nonetheless. Phoenician is clearly distinct from Egyptian hieroglyhphics, but the direct influence and inspiration remains, etc.
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>>18113873

She is not British but German
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>>18113853
That's a weird looking guy, even in the deep congo.
When we say that egyptians had black royalty we talk about people who like this, the Ethiopian /sudanese phenotype.
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>>18113912
>Ethiopian /sudanese phenotype.
Yeah and they have nothing to do with you and your ancestors. Sudanese, Nubians and Horners are a mixture of East African pastoral peoples(Nilotes) and West Asian farmers.
>were there black pharaohs
Sure but they were not black like you they were mixed most certainly half castes. Only one dynasty was Nubian and it was a time of decline fittingly.
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>>18113883
She's half German, her other side is British (English and Scottish) from her mother’s side. It stands the same Germans can be swarthy as well.
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>>18113943

sneed

>>18113957

black
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>>18114287
"the dairy maid and the moor"
You kangs just make shit up on the spot. There's no "dairy maid and the moor" google it, it doesn't mean anything. That painting is just showing a slave owner giving water to a thirsty black slave boy just as it looks. You are a perverted freak that can't think about anything else except sex.
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>>18114287
The real name is 'A Dairy Maid with a Black Boy'
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>>18113399
>wait until learn black history
ME AM NO UNDERSTAND TALK LANG
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>>18114318
>>18114325

too much talky, not enough milky

chop chop
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>>18114403
So you are a faggot then? I mean it's not unusual in your community lmao
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>>18114417

the veil of "white supremacy" wouldnt exist if you werent prone to bending over

and rewarded in abundance for your submission
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>>18107231
>They made a movie about the fictional black superpower Wakanda
>Instead of the real life version Mali
That tells a lot by itself.
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>>18107244
I kneel...
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>>18114362
Still more intelligible than Ebonics.
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>>18107495
>non bantu afro-arab and euro-berber traders
i think they were an afro-asiatic people but not arab or berber
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>>18107483
African agriculture was primitive it was only a step above hunting and gathering. Show me photos, drawings or engravings of vast fields of crop in SSA(you can't). They practiced horticulture, small gardens of crops(mostly yams) and fruit trees in and around their villages.
The "racist" stereotypes about Africa are actually not too far from the truth, all this revisionism is just distortions of the truth.
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>>18117110
They were mutts picrel
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>>18113333
Hadrian is the Chaddest looking one objectively speaking



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