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How could any system or regime survive for thousands of years with the same set of ideals and
hierarchy?

>inb4 muh romans
They became armenians in the end.

I need something that could survive for thousanda of years without much difference
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>>18107813
>survive for thousands of years
>with the same set of ideals and hierarchy?
Pick one
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>>18107813
National Socialism. Economically sound. Tied to race and blood.

It's literally modern tribalism therefore can last as long as the blood lasts.

No other system can claim this and every other system breaks down into nat soc in some form anyway.
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>>18107837
>lasted 12 years
Serious answers only please.
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>>18108030
>>18108030
Invaded and crushed, therefore proving its internally consistent and thus will last while all others fail.
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>>18108061
>if your enemies crush you, you win
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>>18108065
>>18108065
>whats a system will last?
>oh I meant what system has global overwhelming military power that may last a long time?

why didnt you ask that instead?
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>>18108061
That proves nothing. It only proves that it's inept at foreign policy, judging by the fact that it got invaded by the entire world.
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>>18107813
>>inb4 muh romans
>They became armenians in the end.
And? They still lasted a long time, which answer most questions you're asking. Retard.
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>>18108219
How were they romans when they became Armenians? I would only consider an emporer Roman if he was born in downtown Rome near the colloseum or something
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North Korea. China protects them from any external threats and it’s government is strong enough to crush any dissent
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>>18108241
Would it survive if China weakens?

No


So it's not eternal
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>>18108241
It's not internally strong. It begs for grain every few years.
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>>18107813
>I need something that could survive for thousanda of years without much difference
not possible especially in modernity going forward
the closest we got was the 1000 years from like 500-1500 and the feudal monarchies of western europe, but that's just a set of systems rather than a single regime if you want to discount the romans

either way it's unrealistic with how states and power are
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>>18108243
In that case there is no eternal regimes because we are all condemned to die due to the heat death of the universe. Stop being obtuse, North Korea has survived so far with virtually no internal rebellions or coups.
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>>18108243
The CCP is eternal
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>>18108241
NK will only last as long as America does. The only reason they exist is for China to have a buffer state. Once that becomes irrelevant they'll be absorbed and genocided for their land. I'd say they have another 140 years at most before America is too weak to back the South.
>>18108243
>but what if something happens sar?
Then it happens. Best you can hope for is at least 800 years of dominion.
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>>18108382
Another reason why we should give SK, Japan and Taiwan the nuke.
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>>18107813
Weak monarchies tend to do very well for a long time. See the papacy and Japanese monarchy.
Small, defensible republics can also be very long-lasting, like San Marino or Switzerland.
Obviously muh thousand year reich was doomed. Even if you have Napoleon level plot armor constant war is unsustainable.
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>>18107813
Jesus is going to reign with a rod of iron for one thousand years. The Father will reign eternally.
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>>18107813
Yeah it's called HRE
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>>18107813
No because entropy. Change is inevitable
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>>18107813
Small agrarian-socialist religious communes with only local sway are the most conservative and stable systems.
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>>18107813
No place is an island. Not even islands. If the world around you changes, it will eventually knock at your door.
You should also for that thought experiment define what tolerances you give to ideals and hierarchy. The power balance between monarchs and nobility or populous at large for example is always in flux, but does the establishment of a parliament or the calling of a Reichstag change the hierarchy?
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>>18107813
There probably isnt anything that could survive for so long. The national socialists possibly could have, but they were stomped out. But I also think that the citizens of germany would rebel because of hardship after the war, since thats what everyone does.
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*if germany won
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>>18107813
Air Strip One
IngSoc
The only think I can think of
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>>18108219
The Roman empire changed their governmental system every couple centuries or so
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>>18107813
This is the case in the show Autodale
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>>18110383
>IngSoc
No reliable proof of anything at all about geopolitics in the novel being factual. In fact the superstates (if they existed at all) were probably in a state of terminal decline already.



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