Lets see if /his/ can do basic logic.
>>18108284I'll bite.Not really. It's pretty obvious that the stories could be talking about the same room at a different time
>>18108368What if it was implied that it was at the same time?
>>18108368This is a correct answer. Another is that they could both be true even at the same time because if there are 3 people in a room, then there are also two people in a room. Because 2 + 1 = 3.
>>18108376See >>18108380
>>18108380Also one of the people in the room could be very racist and not consider one of them to be prople.
>>18108284>Lets see if /his/ can do basic logic.By the way, the answer in general is "no". Reading comprehension and logic skills are not much better on this board than among the general population, which is to say essentially non-existent. I would estimate that I am in the top 1% of critical thinking on this board, easily. I also have a B.Sc in Math, got an A in philosophy 101, and I am currently working on a master's degree at an Ivy League institution. Still, I am convinced that the reason I am able to do all this is not primarily because of my (very high) IQ, but because I actually care about what is true and what isn't. I suspect that even people in the 100-115 IQ range could accomplish as much, even if it took them more effort.
>>18108394Did you already answer the question?Also saying that you're right because you're credentialed would be an appeal to authority, no?
>>18108368>>18108394Well damn OP which one of us is correct? Unless you are the second anon
>>18108368>>18108394>>18108437OP here. They are contradictory. You are low IQ.
>>18108376Then it is contradictory, because 3 does not equal 2.>>18108380Sorry, that's not how counting works. If I ask how many people are in the room you're in right now and you said two but there are actually three, you would be either lying or unaware of one of the people. It would be consistent if instead of "There are 2 people" they said "There are at least two people."
>>18108521Does 3 as a quantity of units include 2 units within said quantity?
>>18108284Any hadiths or Church Fathers on this??? Is there a KJV translation of this???
>>18108493Damn, guess I overthought itOh well
It is contradictory, P = 3 and Q = 2 does not imply P = Q.If the second statement were 'there were at least 2,' then it'd be valid. P > Q
>>18108522Yes, because 3>2. However, 3 is still not 2 because they are different quantities.
>>18108284Kinda curious OP did you make this yourself or get it from somewhere? Reverse image search provided no results
>>18108493>>18108521>>18108585>>18108584*yawn*>>18108437These are my posts: >>18108394 >>18108380>>18108575>falling for an obvious troll>>18108429>Also saying that you're right because you're credentialed would be an appeal to authority, no?It would be.
>>18108522The answer implies the question is how many people are in the room. Answering with less than the total number of people is misleading. Room A also implies it is the the same room. But they could be room A1 and room A2. True.
>>18108700>necessarily
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>>18108284No they are not neccassarily Since “there are 2 people in Room A “ is a truthful statement. It’s just not accounting for the third person. Ie it’s not saying “there are only two people in Room A” there are at least two people in that room
>>18108284There's no reason to believe that the two stories must be logically consistent in the first place.
>>18108521If there are three people in a room then it is also true that there's two people in the room.
Theres actually ten trillion people in every room and any description any number of people in it is a valid subset of the total
>>18109913>seething retard makes shit up so he can he rightmany such cases!Actually, TWO is a valid subset of THREE :^)
>>18109921You can never know how many people are in a room there can always be more unmentioned people, its unknowable
>>181082842≠3No statements like "at least", or "or more" indicates an exact number. So yes, it is contradictory.
>>18109940>You can never know how many people are in a roomObjectively, we know there aren't ten trillion, however, ignoring your retardation...You cannot know for certain based on subjective testimony, no. Though testimony COULD clearly say >There were three people in the room totalor>There were two people in the room totalBut "in total" is not necessarily implied by stating "there are x quantity in the room"
>>18109950Even if it says theres three people in a room total thats not contradicting there being ten people in the room, the author just doesnt count the other seven as part of his total
>>18108284Sort of. They only disagree on the exact number of people. Both stories agree:>There is a room called A>It was occupied by more than one personThey only contradict on exactly how many people occupied A.
>>18109959Sure but if you weren't at the room then I don't consider your testimony in the first place.
>>18109948Your brain is worthless.>>18109961>Sort of.No, not at all. You fail.
>>18108368>>18108394>>18108437OP here. Just wanted to say I'm transgender.
>>18109969The fact is no two texts can ever contradict each other about how many people are in a room. If theres a million people at a protest and the news says theres only 100 people thats not a contradiction either
>>18108394I fuck.
>>18109984>There are 100 people in a room.>There are 0 people in a room.Pick two, my friend.
>>18108521>If I ask how many people are in the room you're in right nowAh you don't know if there if that question is being asked -your assuming something that isn't part of the scenario.The only information you have is "One person says Room A has 3 people in it""Another person says Room A has 2 people in it"
>>18108284Reading comprehension and logic skills are not much better on this board than among the general population, which is to say essentially non-existent. I would estimate that I am in the top 1% of critical thinking on this board, easily. I also have a B.Sc in Math, got an A in philosophy 101, and I am currently working on a master's degree at an Ivy League institution. Still, I am convinced that the reason I am able to do all this is not primarily because of my (very high) IQ, but because I actually care about what is true and what isn't. I suspect that even people in the 100-115 IQ range could accomplish as much, even if it took them more effort.
>>18108284There must be two people in a room for there to be three people in the room. The question doesn't say that there are ONLY 3 or ONLY 2, just that there are three and are two. There could be a hundred people in the room and both statements would be true as long as there are atleast three people.
>>18108394Yet you still can't take the cock out of your mouth long enough to answer the question. Very impressive.
>>18110485See >>18108608. You lost. :)
>>18109948We don't even know if there's a consequence as a result of the number. Errors aren't necessarily narratively contradicting. You wouldn't book a man for jail for forgetting if someone irrelevant was with him at an important moment unless there's a consequence extending from it.
>>18108284No because the other facts corroborate, there was a room, it was called room A, and people occupied the room
>>18109948Internally speaking, to each story there may not be a contradiction even if two tellings of the story contradict one another.
One day a real rain will come and drown all the filth.
They contradict eachother because what if it's like a census where for example in 1813 one source says 50,000 people live in America while the other says 100,000 do.. then what?
could be at different times think about that
>>18110889Your brain is worthless. Don't worry, I'm getting ready to launch an IQ training app.
>>18108284well it depends on many factorswho wrote these stories? was it one person or two different people?if so then we can check the timing of these two facts, if for example the guy who wrote the latter story entered the room when there was only one person, while the guy who wrote the former entered when the latter story-teller was already inside, making him the third to enter then theyre both correct relatively speaking, when the latter entered there were 2 people in the room and when the former entered there were 3 people in the room.i dont agree with the idea that theyre not contradictory in the sense that "well if theres 3 people then theres also at least 2 people" because the way its grammatically set up it implies that theres *only* three people and *only* two people in each story, no other wording implies that the latter is saying that there was at least 2 people.but if indeed the timing of the statements are equal, and the grammar is correct then that would mean the accounts are contradictory by all means, unless someone can show me otherwise, i like to remain humble and leave a room for doubt
>>18108284"were" is often interpreted precisely so yes they are contradictory, but if it is interpreted imprecisely and "are" could be used as a stand in, then no they do not contradict.
>>18108284"Necessarily" being the key word here, so the answer would be "no"
