Can someone explain me how the Napoleonic borders worked? It's literally a gore map. It doesn't make sense. Where the sis-Republics and vassal kingdoms part of the Imperium? Like the states of USA?Why wasn't all administered directly or divided even more (like Spain)? Why Prussia wasn't incorporated despite being defeated by France?Why Napoléon wanted to destroy Spain's America instead of being part of his Imperium?Also, why the obsession with Russia?Ok, your ruski homie betrayed (you have be really dumb to trust a slavic monarch). But all Western Europe belongs to you, just enjoy your gains and forge a patriotic sentiment around a New (Napoleonic) SPQR.
>>18109371Most of it was made on a ad-hoc basisPrussia wasn't dismembered because the Tsar forbade itNapoleon actually seemed to believe Spanish America would accept his brother as king.
>>18109371>Also, why the obsession with Russia?It's a distraction carnifex.
>>18109379>Prussia wasn't dismembered because the Tsar forbade it>the biggest enemy of Russia>Russia didn't want its destruction Anon... >Napoleon actually seemed to believe Spanish America would accept his brother as king. I starting to doubt that Napo was a smart guy. Also, how he would justify that his older brother has an Imperium (if Spain's America had accepted him) larger than his?
>>18109390>Russia doesn't want its destructionthats pretty much how Euro politics worked since they wanted insurance that a different euro power doesn't get to powerful so they keep a former enemy around albiet in a reduced state as a check, you can even see this at the end of the coalition war where Britain made sure France stayed relevant albiet out of its way as a check on other euro powers
>>18109390Anon, Prussia was on cordial terms with the Russians from the partitions until the fall of Bismarck. Alexander was already miffed by Napoleon's creation of the Duchy of Warsaw, and Prussia served as a buffer between Russia proper and the Confederation of the Rhine
>>18109402Pretty funny considering how Catherine II 'the Whore', despite being german, wanted to wipe out Prussia. And Peter I 'the Great' wanted to turn Russia into the Eastern France (he despised Russian culture for being too "oriental" and hated how Russian language sounds, he wanted to make French the new language of his empire).
>>18109379>Most of it was made on a ad-hoc basisThis. Friendly rulers (in most cases members of Napoleons extended family) were installed as rulers of those new kingdoms and states. In some cases Napoleon himself was the ruler (like with the Italian Republic of 1802 - 1805 or the Kingdom of Italy 1805 1814) of those states while still retaining his role as emperor of France.>>18109371> But all Western Europe belongs to you, just enjoy your gains and forge a patriotic sentiment around a New (Napoleonic) SPQR.This was never going to work. The french revolution kickstarted many nationalist movements or intensified existing ones.>>18109390>the biggest enemy of RussiaPrussia wasn't the biggest enemy of Russia in the 18th and for most of the 19th century. In fact the relations between those two states was very friendly as was already pointed out itt.
>>18109414>The french revolution kickstarted many nationalist movements or intensified existing ones.The Roman Senate was literally created to represent the tribal interests of the peoples that created Roma while unifying them into a single state.Idk why a Napoleonic Senate would haven't worked, despite how philo-Roman were many intellectuals back them (House Bonaparte and Bernadotte have as their symbol the Eagle of Jupiter).
>>18109411>Pretty funny considering how Catherine II 'the Whore', despite being german, wanted to wipe out Prussia.What? She honored the 1762 Treaty of Saint Petersburg that her late husband had signed and later on participated in the Partitions of Poland together with Austria and Prussia.
>>18109429I think he mixed up Elisabeth and Catherine
>>18109423>Idk why a Napoleonic Senate would haven't workedBecause Napoleon didn't want to represent the interests of germans, dutch, italians, spaniards, croats, etc. Hell, he even wasn't to thrilled about the representation of the average frenchmans interest.And the other european states didn't want to live under France.
>>18109371>bordersIm sick of seeing the route of an army marching towards its doom included in these meme borders
This is a more detailed map of Napoleonic France, in which the details that are left out on the OP post are glossed out.If you notice the areas under occupation, you will notice that aside from the salley into Russia, Swedish Pomerania was occupied as well, as well as Spain north of the Ebro.Illyria, Holland and the Nothern German coast were directly annexed in an attempt to clamp down on smuggling.
This will upset chuds but bordergore is actually historical
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