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hey guys we fought too
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He said something about grave yards having a lot of incontinent men or something
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>>18109515
The one relevant thing that the French did in WW2 was industrial action/strikes that kinda irritated the Germans stationed in friendly territory west of the Rhine. But, if you look at France before and after the war, strikes are just kinda what they do to break up the monotony on a slow Thursday afternoon, or when their boss asks them to maybe consider doing something that sort of looks like work for a while.

France was basically uninvolved in WW2, except for the French volunteers who fought, bled, and died with their SS brothers and achieved absolutely nothing of consequence with their deaths.
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>>18109515
If Petain didn't surrender France probably could've eaten Africa and been a major power postwar
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>>18110983
well they still kinda are, frenchies don't like this being talked about too much but they pretty much still exert control over their african colonies
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>>18109515
You refused to fall under US control after WW2, so you get mocked.
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>>18109627
>that kinda irritated the Germans
From what I recall, the Germans had to completely write the industry of France off for their war efforts.
That's a bit more bothersome than an irritation.
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>>18111018
>they pretty much still exert control over their african colonies
Yeah ten years ago, now all these areas are Russian satellites. If they had fully gone all-in on Africa and teamed up with SA, Rhodesia, Spain, and Portugal they easily could've held it.
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>>18110983
>>18111018
De Gaulle is the one who decided to get rid of African colonies asap
When he got back to power in 1958, he had one obsession: getting rid of the French colonial empire that he saw as an economic burden and a demographic danger for the future of France.

He first started by giving independence to the entirety of Subsaharan African colonies in 1960.
Gabon begged to remain an oversea territory but was told to fuck off.
And then he slowly worked his way toward the most controversial topic, Algeria.
Since there were 1 million white settlers and an ongoing armed rebellion, it was a more touchy topic and it was harder to make everyone agree on independence.
But eventually he managed to convince enough of the French governement to have a referendum happen and thus Algeria was granted independence in 1962 despite the utter military failure of the FLN (that still controled zero city or town at the time of armistice and was hiding in the mountains coming out occasional to commit terror attacks).
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>>18110983
>If Petain didn't surrender
They had like no reserves
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>>18111287
>They had like no reserves
They could've redoubted the Army of the Alps and some of the units near Bordeaux to Algeria
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>>18111407
What if Mussolini tried to attack
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>>18111452

Mussolini was so fucking useless and incompetent that without support from the Germans, France probably could have easily beaten him off.
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>>18111491
Hindsight is 20/20
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>>18111452
I guarantee the French would've held the line and then pushed alongside the British in Egypt to cut Libya in half.
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>>18109515
France had a lot of cool armoured vehicles in the 20th century. And a pretty kino crumbling empire arc. Very underrated country. Everyone knows Napoleon but fewer know the kino that was suppressing colonial revolts like it was still the 1800s. Anyways don't go too hard on France for their failures in ww2 because they fought like hell in the first one.
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They still get nuclear power via underwater transmission cables.
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>>18111125
>now all these areas are Russian satellites
what did they give them wooden guns again?
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>>18109515
They weren't entirely useless, their wine villas provided a great resource to the alcohol deprived Germans. Plus I'm sure a great man French children would not exist today if it weren't for their German grandfathers
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>>18112071
>did they give them wooden guns again
No, Russia has flooded the area with cheap food, oil, mercenaries, and industrial secrets in return for shares of mines, oil wells, etc.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coup_Belt
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>>18111061
>That's a bit more bothersome than an irritation.
A disappointment perhaps, but using stronger language than that would dramatically misrepresent France's role in the war - as just one of the chunks of ground that other nations were fighting on top of. Costa-Rica and Aruba were more significant powers in WW2 than the frogs were.
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>>18109515
Petain mogs him
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>>18109515
Yeah, but not for France.
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>>18111018
>Niger, Burkina Faso
lol, not anymore



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