>We're the party of LincolnThat's not a good thing.
>you should let your country be dismembered in peace
>>18110346>you should let your country be dismembered in peaceYe should. Countries are glorified lines on the map.
>>18110338Reminder>During Lincoln's termA war over whether slavery should be legal in all of the US>After Lincoln's termSlavery is legal in all of the US
>>181103461807>Jefferson embargoes England >the northern economy immediately collapses >it's so bad they want to secede>he tells them they can>the second great awakening happens in all the turmoil>the north seriously contemplates seceding>decides not to>we're about to invade Canada>all the northern militias stand down and let us lose the war>let England torch the white house >they start preaching immediate emancipation to destroy the south and them, but they wanted to live with africans>actual suicide cult>they drag their feet for 50 years, refusing to politically reconcile with the south>cause the civil war
>>18110518That didn't stop slave owners from feeling threatened and compelled to fight the bloodiest war of the 19th century if it meant keeping their slaves anyhow
>>18110338Lincoln is often forgiven for his unilateral, unconstitutional acts in dealing with secession because Congress was adjourned and he needed to act. Could he have not called Congress together in no more that 10 days? He certainly was able to convene an army in Washington in less time. However, in doing that, Lincoln would have hampered his clandestine schemes to inaugurate war.
>>18111995The average southerner wasn’t interested in spreading slavery, tariffs, the Constitution, or economics. The average southerner was concerned with a sudden mass emancipation that would free 4 million slaves and turn them loose on southern society. The northern politicians, nor the northern people were willing to accept any responsibility for the freedmen, therefore the hordes of ex-slaves would be turned over to southern society, with no preparation for self reliance. Southerners believed that since issues surrounding slavery affected them the most, they should be the ones who make any decisions on how it's handled, not meddling Yankees with no intentions of cooperation with the handling of the freedmen. Most southerners believed slavery was the better option until a situation was devised that would improve their condition and be acceptable to society, both North and South. The Mississippi Declaration of Secession clarified that the North “seeks not to elevate or to support the slave, but to destroy his present condition without providing a better.”
>>18111995Answering the accusations that the South seceded to “protect and expand” slavery, explain how secession accomplished this? By seceding, the States lost all laws that the Federal Government provided to protect their slaves. The Corwin Amendment and the The Crittenden - Johnson Resolution, which would have made slavery untouchable by the Federal Government eternally, were offered and turned down by the South, indicating that protecting slavery was not their chief concern.
Lincoln was incredibly magnanimous to southoids. He should have land-reformed the plantations to freed blacks and poor whites and killed the plantation owner class if they threw a fit about it, and tossed out the constitution and introduced a new one with clear federal authority, less veto points and abolishing the senate. Instead Republicans turned back into neo-Whigs the second reconstruction ended.
>>18112103The eternal yank reveals himself at last
>>18110346Lincoln was the one who dismembered it, literally no one else in the whole country could have caused that war. Giving him any credit at all for winning it is bizarre in light of his promise to block the South from gaining any new states in the southwest, causing the Deep South to secede, them immediately preparing for an invasion, causing the Upper South to secede. And in a more theoretical sense he effectively tore up the Union and the constitution himself by unilaterally launching an invasion without the approval of congress.
>>18110352t. Person who will leave no mark whatsoever on the shared tapestry of humanity and will die nameless and forgotten
>>18112108You just replied to a brown migrant. Yankees are terrible, but they don't spend all their time online obsessively posting left-wing propaganda for free.
>>18110338"Mr. Lincoln and his cabinet have usurped the powers of Congress and have waged war against the Sovereign States, and have thereby not only absolved the States, but, all the people of the several States from their allegiance to his government.."~ Sam Houston, 12 Sep 1861
>>18112140Exactly the man I was thinking of when I wrote this >>18112124 But on another level it's just bizarre the way the Yankees talked about the federal government as if it were God, and still do. Lincoln was a nakedly sectional president, wholly on the side of the North and determined to keep the South in a semi-colonial state of subjugation via denying us the southwest and forcing us to pay tribute to an increasingly powerful central government. If staying loyal to our states is treason, then treason is justice.
>>18110338>Pisses on your gay constitution to win a retarded civil warHoly based. Why don't you people love this guy again?
>>18110338It is interesting that each party made their first move on March 12, 1861. The Confederate Governnent sent peace commissioners to Washington to meet openly, to discuss peace. Lincoln secretly sent word to G. V. Fox to come to Washington to arrange an expedition to reinforce Fort Sumter. On the same day, a spy was sent to Pensacola to arrange the reinforcement of Fort Pickens. This broke the standing armistice, and was considered an act of war. The northern population was unaware of the armistice at either location and Congress was conveniently adjourned. Abraham Lincoln purposely deceived the people, Congress, the Confederate Commissioners, and the States of South Carolina and Florida. All carried out in order to fulfill his secret scheme to inaugurate war on the South.
>>18110338yeah
>>18110338Wow.
