Augustan criteria:>Continental-size territorial control>Longevity in power (30-40 years minimum)>Cultural/Political/Economic reforms that lasted more than a century
Charles V was majority Iberian. Charlemagne was Dutch.
>>18112267Diocletian is the only figure in history that is actually similar.
>>18112270Charlemagne was German. He rests in modern day Germany. His capital is in modern day Germany (Aachen).
>>18112267I would put Diocletian ahead of all six of them.
>>18112364>>18112621He was a successor not a “reincarnation”. Has to be of a different nation, different time period and different ethnic background if possible
>>18112364What?>divides the Empire >civil war.exe>heh, not my problem
>>18112726>>divides the EmpireDidn't do that. There was no split in the empire under his rule, he was in effect the sole ruler with the others acting as his deputies. >civil war.exe>heh, not my problemHe went out of retirement to try to solve it and only went back after he thought he solved it. He died and Constantine began his wars.
>>18112770>he was in effect the sole ruler with the others acting as his deputies.False, ask Maximian. >He died and Constantine began his wars.False, ask Galerius, Maxentius etc
>>18112911>ask Maximian.Who was the subordinate of Diocletian, and took orders from him his entire reign. Only after he died did he feel that he could try to come out of retirement. Maximian was not an independent agent, he was beholden to Diocletian and was unwillingly forced into retirement by him. All administrative, legal and military reforms were Diocletian's alone and he proscribed that he implement them.>ask Galerius, Maxentius etcThis is exactly what he went out of retirement to address. Confining Maxentius and Constantine as legitimate in hope that it would work out.
>>18112667The criteria was>Continental-size territorial control>Longevity in power (30-40 years minimum)>Cultural/Political/Economic reforms that lasted more than a centuryDiocletian meets all of those.
>>18112612The early old Germans are Alemanni, anon
>>18113131Franks were a confederation from the lower Rhine, of which the Salians were part of, the Alemanni were a confederation from the upper Rhine. The Franks eventually defeated them under Clovis. Charlegmage was a Frank of Salian origin.
