If Napoleon was such a good commander how come he went into Russia with his troops during winter?
>>18112816Everyone makes mistakes.
He fell for the Decisive Battle meme as if just beating Russian army in the field would make them sue for peace.
>>18112816Don't forget his wife Josephine had cucked him and he lost his fucking mind before heading to Russia
>>18112833Oh, so that's what it was..
>>18112816Victory disease. Napoleon was the Hitler of the 19th century/
>>18112816Napoleon was genius at tactics and operational level warfare but he sucked balls at grand strategy. Normalfags don't realize these are completely different skills. Along with Russia he also blundered Egypt, Spain and Haiti.
>>18112816He didn't. He stayed in Russia so long that winter came and by that point has overextended his lines of communication and supply.
>>18113520If only he had invaded in spring rather than summer...ugh what could of bean
>Invades Russia in June>lul why he invade in winter? Le stupid?Also, its a myth that winter killed his army. The majority of casualties due to attrition happened in the summer months.Never post again OP.
>>18112816He technically defeated the Russians, but they don't play fairThen again, all's fair in love and war
>>18113465He never there at Haiti.>SpainHis worst mistake before Afghanistan
>>18114036>He never there at Haiti.He made the decision to invade. That's exactly what I'm talking about, a blunder of grand strategy, not an operational level blunder which would require him to personally in charge.
NEVER FORGET Napoleon was in France on Christmas 1812
>>18112816>If Napoleon was such a good commander how come he went into Russia with his troops during winter?But he started war with Russia in the summer - 24 June 1812
>>18112829Basically. He thought Alexander I was a bad buck who just needed a lil' breakin'. But he greatly overestimated Alexander's love for BBC (big British cock), and the length he'd go to be able to bounce on it once more.
>>18112829To be fair it worked on everyone else
>>18113465Haiti was a good plan but it got fucked by yellow feverEgypt was an order imposed on him (it was either Egypt or Ireland, he picked the sensible decision). He did the best he could but Nelson was overpowered>>18113772Marching and fighting through Russian mud, awesome
>>18112816it was fake alexander and napoleon united and attacked remnants of Tartarian empire and eventually Moscow was destroyed by nuclear weapons he successfully installed Romanovs as rulers of Russia(before they were just ruling sankt Petersburg
>>18113908people say the same thing about hitler "hes stupid he invaded during winter" nah both are the same story. >Invade in the Summer >Kill orcs all season>They basically just wait, maybe cross the volga into asia i guess>invaders starve and die outPeople just shouldnt invade russia at all. Just isolate them and attack them in their periphery like britts did with crimean war
I will never understand why he didn’t invade the Ottoman Empire instead. The Turks were Weak, overextended, and much closer to home. Imagine the glory of seizing Constantinople for the French empire. He could even use it to invade Egypt again.
>>18118060He wasn't invading Russia just because retard. The entire reason he did it is because Russia broke the continental system. Napoleon wanted to starve Britain because the British kept bribing literally everyone to fight him.
>>18117963You forgot to add the part where in both cases they get substantial foreign aid that allows them to continue the fight.
>>18118060LMAO with what allies? Usually Europeans go to war with the Ottomans in a multi-state alliance. Revolutionary France spent 1790s and 1800s burning every diplomatic bridge it has, so how can it fucking attack the Ottomans. Besides the most crucial ally you need to fight em was the Austrian Empire and guess who the nemesis of Revolutionary France was.Its even funnier that France was so desperate for allies in 1790s that it briefly befriended the Ottomans and sent military advisors there to modernize their army.
>>18112829It usually worked as it was the rational thing to do at the time. But he was so good at winning his ennemy started acting irrationnaly just to spite him : better burn my whole country than being humiliated by him one more time
>>18118179>Usually Europeans go to war with the Ottomans in a multi-state alliance.Nah by that point Russia was regularly beating the crap out of sick man Ottomans. Just a few decades after Napoleon, UK & France had to intervene to stop further Russian expansion towards Constantinople
Why have so many countries jobbed against Russia despite it having always been mismanaged wasted potential?
>>18119454It's not wasted potential and russian rulers aren't incompetent. Creating your own country in the wilderness sounds like all fun and games but it's brutal and unnatural compared to old europe. That's like faulting America for its lack of european culture. Warrior kings like Napoleon and Hitler betray themselves by their plans to become the new czar, the new Peter whom they imagine as a mere germanophile replacing vibrant russian culture with a broad brush. Peter was in battle with the wilderness too.
>>18115804No it didnt. How many times did he have to teach the hapsburgs and prussians the same lesson?
>>18117963The mongols had no problems. Guess Subotai is just the GOAT.
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>>18119757>russian rulers aren't incompetentlol>Warrior kings like Napoleon and Hitler betray themselves by their plans to become the new czar, the new PeterAre you obese? Napoleon and Hitler wanted to be "caesar" in the sense of "ruler of the strongest power in Europe" not "czar" in the sense of "wanted to be the ruler of a bunch of hairy drunk half-mongol bumpkins like Peter the Great, who was a czar"
>>18120894great argument but you're gay
>>18120932DIS PWOVES DAT CHURCHILL WANTED TO BE THE KHAN LIKE AMIR III(violently eats)
>>18112829It made sense. They can't just keep burning their own country down, can they? Can they??
>>18120944>>18120952I'm American so I'm used to causing this much seethe. I can tell whoever you're talking about must be based. .. Russia? Well, if you insist.
What if he wanted to get Frenchman killed? Good job, commander.
Napoleon didn't pick the timing of this particular conflict, but it's true that he didn't have to go on continental offense when he did.I bet he thought that if he didn't stomp Russia back into line immediately, it would all unravel again. And it was like the third time.
>>18121075>But the papers. The treatys! They signed them! Just like the revolutionaries signed thier papers before they were beheaded. I don't understand at all.
>>18119454Because they come to Russia instead of letting Russia come to them and Russia is too big and hostile to be conquered.The trick is to let Russians go on the offensive and have their incompetence ruin themselves, Tsarist Russia got btfo to the point of collapse when they launch offensives against the Central Power in WW1, Germany didn't even need to march past Poland.Then there's the Winter War against Finland, the Afghanistan fiasco, the debacle vs tiny Chechya and now they're fumbling against Ukraine
>>18120894>>18120944Very well balanced mind, clearly
>>18112833Josephine cucked him once whilst he was on his first campaign in Italy. He proceeded to have many mistresses throughout their marriage and divorced her years prior to the Russian campaign. Get the fuck out with your cuck fetish.
>all those french soldiers that were captured and raped by russian soldiersh-hot
>>18120826>decisive battles of The Nile and TrafalgarThanks for the input, anon
>>18120762>PrussiansBy 1812, just once
>>18112816russians are too powerful
