Trvke: racism is about skin color.>noooo it's about fancy buildings and inventionsIf that were the case Mesoamericans would be considered superior to Scandinavians.
>>18112945>implying that the atlantian whites weren't responsible for the megalythic American constructions Ngmi
>>18112945>índios>Mesopotamia Go back.
Vikings weren't White so their technical level does not concern me. Only Christians are White.
>>18112945But pyramids were made by aliens from space
Why are brazilians obsessed with nordicists
>>18112959>glorified earthen mounds made with normal-sized bricks are "megalithic" because...there's this one wall in Peru and they're technically the same type of building as the pyramids in egypt o algo
>>18112945No it's about pattern recognition and behavior. Non-whites tend to be dysfunctional, where there are more non-whites there is stealing, there is rape, there is scamming, there is shitting in the street, there is murder. That's all that's going on here.
>>18112983Inferiority complex. Non-whites seethe in envy of us, now they dig into our past in a desperate attempt to disprove our obvious superiority.
>>18112961For some reason, a non-insignificant number of people insist on referring to mesoamerican temple-pyramids as "ziggurats". I would imagine whichever brazilian made the OP pic is one such person and just grabbed the first image he found when googling the word ziggurat.
>>18112945>Mesoamericans That's literally Ur in Sumer you dumbass. Learn about your own injun mestizo culture paco
>>18112994I'm not the retarded OP's, jackass. American pyramids are compared to Ziggurats because their civilization is called MESOamerica and the Egyptian Pyramids were just giant tombs/cemetery, unlike the Zigarats and Teocalli which were temples.
>>18112986>there has never been stealing, rape, scamming, shitting in the street or murder in white societes
>>18112945racism is about skull-shapes, stature, genetics, and heritable personality traits. intra-racial qualities also vary somewhat and correlate with social status
>>18112945The vikings lived in walkable cities
>>18113021>>there has never been stealing, rape, scamming, shitting in the street or murder in white societesDid I saw that? comparing the prevalence of these activities between whites and non-whites is like comparing day to night. If you take all non-whites out of Sweden for instance you'll reduce the overall crime in the country probably by 95 percent.
>>18113044This. In Ur you'd probably get mugged, pickpocketed and scammed around every street corner, it was a mud favela.
>>18113089They already had suburbs back then
>>18112945ESL thread?
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>>18112945This is kind of stuff goes totally unnoticed with people just assuming the modern Notre Dame we have was "built" in the 1100s and the same with the Hagia Sophia for example, when they're literally a result of centuries of reconstruction + new addition
>>18113113No wonder the elites stopped using them as slaves and pivoted to Indians.
>>18113113That's called the WARRIOR gene and it's something that gets selected based on the environment. Yes, Black people are warriors, cracker. They endured centuries of abuse at your hand and selected for this as a survival strategy.
Brazilian thread
>>18113177>we wuz wariazz and sheit!No, you just have zero impulse control
>>18112988why you post the fucking statue about barbarian wear roman armor and that statue is made by roman you dumb barbarian?
>>18112961>it's not real because my Spanish great grandrapist said soYeah ok Pancho.
>>18113244>why you post the fucking statue about barbarian wearseeennnnhhhhooooorrrrrrr
>>18112945No one speaks this jigaboo mumbo jumbo boot-lipped fagspeak in your image, ESL.
>>18112988>What they were like geneticallyOh no no noAlso, Nords still lose on the soap thing:>Europe, soap in the 9th century was produced from animal fats and had an unpleasant smell. This changed when olive oil began to be used in soap formulas instead, after which much of Europe's soap production moved to the Mediterranean olive-growing regions.[47] Hard toilet soap was introduced to Europe by Arabs and gradually spread as a luxury item. It was often perfumed.
>>18113177Yeah that's why we don't want you in our society.
>>18113106Yes it was the Norse who reintroduced the town system to Britain after the Saxons let romans towns disintegrate. The Norse town system was also more modern compared to the roman towns.
>>18113422Jorvik Norse York in England.
>>18113089>>18113431>small village of mudshithouses proves we wuz kangz
>>18113377>uses fucking Austrian Gauls probably from a sample close to actual Italy.Jesus christ you are a dishonest piss stain.The Germanics and Gauls were using much more modern soap compared to the filthy romans that all that matters mestizo.
>>18113450>>small village of mudshithouses proves we wuz kangzNo it shows the Norse introduced the town system to Britain numbskull.>mudshitUse your 2 brain cells and look at the illustration again. Do you see any mud walls there? holy fuck you are stupid.
>>18113452>idiot doesn't know where Hallstatt-La Tene culture startedCope haha. The Bretons who were actually Nordic-like were very primitive in comparison.
Another Brazilian thread ?
>>18113492Theres no coping dipshit you used a sample from closed to Italy that's not going to tell us much about Gauls from western or northern France you smooth brain.Makes sense as well like I've said before Italians are related to the celts.
How the Gaulish people looked like
>>18113527and for those who are illiterate, this means that they were similar to Western Europeans like the French, Belgians and even Welsh. I made a point of using a sample from further south to see that even the southernmost Celts were still closer to the French and not the Spanish. Some here use samples selected there, but these samples are close to Belgians and French from the center and north, use averages.
>>18113523>>18113527Hallstatt-La Tene culture started in Austria/South Germany. Anyone else just adopted the culture. There's samples from Germany and they are Iberian/North Italian-like as well.
>>18113527Ah yes the swarthy brown Belgian people lmao fucking retard.This is proof that Gauls were far more Nordic than modern day French people because half of Belgium is literally Germanic.
>>18112961This. Plus>Norse>battle helmet with horns
la tene aryos samples plot with french, germans and belgians.Distance to: Czech_IA_LaTene0.01578866 BelgianB0.01653702 French_Nord0.01777136 French_Pas-de-Calais0.01808242 German0.01819178 French_BrittanyDistance to: ChannelIslands_LIA_LaTene0.05004101 German_Hamburg0.05017179 German0.05049237 Welsh0.05056211 German_Erlangen0.05092293 NorwegianDistance to: Slovakia_LIA_LaTene0.01676597 French_Occitanie0.01850509 French_Nord0.01855879 BelgianC0.01905332 French_Auvergne0.01990868 French_AlsaceDistance to: Hungary_IA_LaTene0.01831462 French_Auvergne0.02131342 French_Occitanie0.02152328 Swiss_French0.02470235 Italian_Northeast0.02503906 French_ProvenceEven the most southern samples plot with southern France...
>>18113560This, the only reasonable post hereSamehueflag btfo again >>18113523I made some models in qpAdm and got different results, mainly using FST metrics, apparently the English ones are also relatively close to them too
>>18113541>Hallstatt-La Tene culture started in a warmer part of europeGee big surprise there. The La Tene culture was also not monolithic you drooling retard, it was extremely diverse with each local tribe having their own distinct architecture and customs. I mean compare the Oppidum's Entremont, Heuneburg, Bibracte, Manching and Corent all completely different from each other owing to their distinct cultures.
germany_lech_MBA is not even a celt>While Hallstatt samples from present-day Czech Republic plot on top of the genetic diversity of present-day French, Belgians and Germans, close to Iron Age individuals from present-day FranceI.e. closer to belgians than to iberians or italians
>>18113560Is this supposed to be some kind of win by the mestizo? I'm confused. Your chart is showing allot of Northern European there lmao
that they were destroyed by 160 white people negates all their accomplishments
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>>18113577>>18113560the Brazilian was massacred again. we are sure he was paid for thisCelts= belgians and French.
>>18113560>>18113577>>18113590German sisters...
>>18113590I refuted him more than 5 times this week alone, my ego can soar and see how he says le Nordic, le Nordic in every post, when at no point in my posts was this even mentioned, it's really a personal problem he has with Nordics, I'm just educating the academics with G25 certificate that the Celts were not Spanish or something like that
>>18113599They were Spaniards
>>18113605No, they weren't>>18113577>Compared with contemporaneous data, the Hallstatt individuals cluster homogeneously intermediate between Iron Age samples from present-day France and the Czech Republic41,42, together with Bronze Age samples from the Bavarian Lech valley38 within the present-day French variation (Supplementary Figs. 4.2 and 4.3).>This strong genetic affinity between Hallstatt individuals from southwestern Germany and present-day French can also be observed in formal F4 and FST statistics, as described in Supplementary Note 5.>While Hallstatt samples from present-day Czech Republic plot on top of the genetic diversity of present-day French, Belgians and Germans, close to Iron Age individuals from present-day France (Supp. Fig. 5.8b>In general, the European PCA implies high genetic similarity between the Hallstatt genomes from southwestern Germany and i) present-day genomes from France (Supp. Fig. 4.1b)
>>18113599His problem is different, he is so angry with Nordics out of envy and secondly due to a feeling of frustration or abandonment for not receiving the expected help in times of need, he desperately asks the magical blacks for a white wife, but this did not happen, all goats and birds are no longer being useful, that's why his internal anger against Northern Europeans. It's all so tiring...
>>18113629You would think the magical blacks would do something about brazil being a shithole oou algo assim.
>>18113629Really, I can't find any alternative other than internal envy, and I'm not even Nordic, I'm Italian. Looking at some posts on this thing, I came across posts not only of sexual content from a guy clearly addicted to pornography, but often featuring fantasies of white women and dark men. I suspect there's some kind of internal feud against Northern Europeans or something.Anyway, I've already educated him for the sixth time this week, so that's the end of the matter.
>>18112988>"Celts were kangs n shieet"I think the celt hate its pretty stupid, they did pretty well for an small, relatively isolated group, but this is pure copium, black levels of copium, actually-
Nordics had nothing to do with any of these civilizations whatsoever except the Bretons (who were the most primitive of the Celtic groups).
>Celts don't exist, it means nothing genetically, it's just a language group! LOL you think "Celt" means anything? What a retard!Let's be honest: this is just the latest Nordicist cope.200-100 years ago Nordicists claimed Celtic blood was subhuman Alpine trash that was for the masses of slaves. Now that it turns out from genetic studies that the British are mostly genetically Celtic and similar to the Irish, that the Gauls were far more advanced than Roman historians claimed, and that all the Gaulish areas of Central Europe were the most advanced and not the Nordic ones Celts suddenly don't exist and they were just an extension of Nords and the ancient Gauls were just like Swedes n sheeit
>>18113651He might be a mulatto/mestizo mixed Brazilian an actual favela monkey lmao
>>18113736Oh you are back kill yourself that's all I'm saying.
>>18113655>but this is pure copium, black levels of copium, actuallyYou obviously no fuck all about iron age Europe.>Celts were kangs n shieet"Yeah they had king's dumbass. Also attempt to disprove everything in that infographic and I'll wipe the floor with you.
>>18113736>extension of NordsBecause they were dumbass at least to a certain extent their cultures overlapped and so did their geography.Tacitus himself was unsure how to place Belgae culturally so were other thinkers of the time, some calling Belgae tribes Germanic and others Celtic.
>>18113736>genetic studies that the British are mostly genetically CelticNope.>David Reich's laboratory found that 90% of Britain's Neolithic gene pool was overturned by a population from North Continental Europe characterised by the Bell Beaker culture around 1200 BC who carried a large amount of Yamnaya ancestry from the Pontic-Caspian Steppe, including the R1b Haplogroup. This population lacked genetic affinity to other Bell Beaker populations, such as the Iberian Bell Beakers, but appeared to be an offshoot of the Corded Ware single grave people. It is currently unknown whether these Beaker peoples went on to develop Celtic languages in the British Isles, or whether later Celtic migrations introduced Celtic languages to Britain>The close genetic affinity of these Beaker people to Continental North Europeans means that British and Irish populations cluster genetically very closely with other Northwest European populations, regardless of how much Anglo-Saxon and Viking ancestry was introduced during the 1st century
>>18112988How does it make you feel that Native Americans built the same sort of towns and cities but at a larger scaleand I don't even mean the Aztec and shit, I mean in fucking Illinois
>>18114288Nothing because they didn't have the wheel and their architecture was primitive.
>>18114288Natives share the same ancestry with Nordics, literally you're just proving the point that our people are successful wherever they born.
>>18114288Mesolarp is also "anti-nord" or something like that? Understand
Crazy that this board has existed for 10 years now and we're still doing the whole mudhut architecture war gimmick with the exact same talking points every fucking time
>>18114335It isn't.We, the people who study and make threads about mesoamerica don't care about the ethnic/race fights of the board.If this guy wants to mess up with nordics that's his deal, don't try to include all of /his/ mesoamerican community as if those were our opinions.
>>18114300Fake and Gay. Mesoamericans and Andean peoples independently invented:>wheels>agriculture>pottery and ceramics >domestication of animals such as turkeys, ducks, dogs, and bees (cattle, pigs, and horses were brought by the Spanish, which explains why they didn't use their wheel as much and why thousands died in Cocoliztli, since these pandemics are transmitted from viruses/parasites to rats, which the Spanish also brought, which then pass to cattle, which pass to insects, which pass to humans, and Mesoamericans had no immunity because they didn't have these animals)>road and commercial networks>monumental architecture (They used slaked lime. They built impressive pyramids of cut stone. A considerable feat for a people essentially from the Stone Age)>urban life/cities equivalent to those of classical antiquity in the Old World, both in population size and physical extent>work with copper, bronze, gold, and alloy production>organized armies>highly literate priesthood >writing and poetry>philosophy>semi-complex mathematics and highly complex astronomy>censuses and topographic surveys>aqueducts, dikes, and other hydraulic systems>hydraulic cement>sewer systems and toilets>legal systems (written laws, courts of appeal) and advanced forms of government, including senatorial republics, bureaucratic institutions, etc.>zoos, aquariums, nature reserves (Probably the most inventive when it came to obtaining plants, animals, and food. They were literally the Chinese of the Americas)>alcoholic beverages>fresco technique>empirically based medical treatments>complex odontology>a lot of other random mundane things, like soap, for example
>>18114327This they are quasi-Caucasoid
>>18114370They invented first:>domestication of corn (one of the most impressive feats of selective breeding in history), the nixtamalization method, and many other plants>chocolate>the best sanitation and hygiene practices in the world at the time>true and academic Bontatincal gardens>universal public education (probably, some sources say school wasn't mandatory for the Aztecs, but most do)>chinampas (artificial islands, Tenochtitlán, the Aztec capital, went from a swamp to an American city with more density/population than some large contemporary European cities)>the world's first true suspension bridge (potentially)>the world's largest human monument, which is also the world's largest pyramid>some specific metallurgical techniques/alloys>taxonomy>state-run economies
>>18114370>Fake and Gay."argument" from incredulity. The artist who drew that is an archaeologist his reconstructions are displayed in museums halfwit.>>wheelsNo they didn't that painting is post Spanish contact. Toys barely count.As for everything else you mentioned Europeans and Caucasians also invented all of that
>>18114361it's been going on for even longer if you count /int/
>>18114375>posts an illustration ironically after claiming mine was fake because "reasons" That illustration is fake and gay because nah ah. You are a toddler
>>18114327The difference is that common ancestor of the Nordics and Amerindians looked more like the Amerindians, the Amerindians have more of their genes and they were the ones who gave rise to blond hair.>According to Lazaridis between 14% and 38% of Native American ancestry may originate from gene flow from the Malta-Buret people (ANE). This difference is caused by the penetration of posterior Siberian migrations Into the Americas, with the lowest percentages of ANE ancestry found in Eskimos and Alaskan Natives, as these groups are the result of migrations into the Americas roughly 5,000 years ago. Other estimates for ANE ancestry among first wave Native Americans show higher percentages, such as those belonging to the Andean region in South America>It is also reported in modern-day Europeans (7%-25% ANE admixture directly from Yammaya), but not of Europeans predating the Bronze Age>Blond hair is associated with a single nucleotide polymorphism, the mutated allele rs12821256 of the KITLG gene. The earliest known individual with this allele is a female south-central Siberian ANE individual from the Afontova Gora 3 site, which is dated to c.17,000 before present (the earlier ANE Mal'ta boy lacks the sequence coverage to make this determination). The allele then appears later in ANE-derived Eastern Hunter-Gatherer (EHG) populations at Samara, Motala and Ukraine, circa 10,000 BP, and then in populations with Steppe ancestry. Mathieson, et al. (2018) thus argued that this allele originated in the Ancient North Eurasian population, before spreading to western Eurasia>Geneticist David Reich said that the KITLG gene for blond hair probably entered continental Europe in a population migration wave from the Eurasian steppe, by a population carrying substantial Ancient North Eurasian ancestry
>>18114404>Hanel and Carlberg (2020) likewise report that populations derived Ancient North Eurasian ancestry, specifically the Eastern Hunter-Gatherers and the Yamnayas, were responsible for transmitting this gene to Europeans. The gene was also found among the Tarim mummies
>>18114387>>18114398>A wicker man was purportedly a large wicker statue in which the druids (priests of Celtic paganism) sacrificed humans and animals by burning. The primary evidence for this practice is a sentence by Roman general Julius Caesar in his Commentary on the Gallic War (1st century BC), which modern scholarship has linked to an earlier Greek writer, Posidonius>While other Roman writers of the time described human and animal sacrifice among the Celts, only the Roman general Julius Caesar and the Greek geographer Strabo mention the wicker man as one of many ways the druids of Gaul performed sacrifices. In the mid-1st century BC, Caesar wrote in his Commentary on the Gallic War that a large wickerwork figure with limbs was filled with living men and set on fire. He says criminals were the preferred victims, but innocent people might also be burned if there were no criminals. Writing slightly later, Strabo says in his Geographica that men and animals were burned in a large figure of wood and straw, although he does not make clear whether the victims were burned alive. He adds that the ashes were believed to help the crops grow>Also in the 1st century BC, Greek historian Diodorus Siculus wrote in Bibliotheca historica that the Celts sacrificed human and animal captives by burning them on huge pyres along with the first fruits. It has been suggested that both Diodorus and Strabo got their information from the earlier Greek historian Posidonius, whose work has not survived>In the 1st century AD, Roman writer Lucan mentioned human sacrifices to the Gaulish gods Esus, Teutates and Taranis. In a commentary on Lucan—the Commenta Bernensia dating from the 4th century and later—an unnamed author added that sacrifices to Taranis were burned in a wooden containerTruly a superior culture to those violent savage injuns.
>>18114436>He says criminals were the preferred victimsThis is the important part mestizo, injuns like the aztecs would literally pull the hearts out of innocent children while they were fully conscious. When Europeans practiced human sacrifice they killed criminals not the innocent.Don't even get me started on the evil shit the Comanches used to do.
>>18114436Most civizations have done human sacrifice.The romans did human sacrifice for their own satisfaction or example.
>>18114436The wicker man was badass though spic
>>18114458The thing is you're ignoring why they did it.The aztec human sacrifice was a way to help Huitzilopchtli in his war with his sister.Also, the aztec gods also sacrifice their blood themselves in order to create the humans.
>>18114471Human Sacrifice in Aztec and Mesoamerican religion was a broad group of practices with no singular goal of that sort, it was part of many different rituals dedicated to many different deities with many different intents. The specific example of child sacrifices that guy brought up were dedicated to Tlaloc, not to Huitzilopochtli, with the intention of making sure rain falls.
>>18114471It's just typical non-white low empathy behavior. Like I've stated before when Europeans did cruel things it was out of a sense of extreme justice. There are no accounts of prehistoric Europeans sacrificing children but this was a very common practice among non-white cultures. Even when we burnt witches most of the time we strangled them first to ease their suffering
>>18114488>with the intention of making sure rain falls.Savage cruel animals, the Spanish did the right thing.
>>18114503Allowing the ruling classes of nobles and priests who directly practiced such customs to simply convert to christianity and retain their noble status in the new colonial order while shipping off their innocent peasants to be worked and raped to death in mines and estates? Yeah, real divine retribution right there, i'm sure they cared about the innocent children, as much as you.
>>18114488Obviously there were more gods than just Huitzilopchtli, like the one you mentioned, tlaloc, i just mention Huitzilopchtli as an example, since he is one of the main gods of the Aztec pantheon.
>>18114415Jōmon and Nahuatl have some west Eurasian dna
>>18114458>literally pull the hearts out of innocent children while they were fully consciousWhy don't you stop lying? The deity to whom the Aztecs sacrificed the most was Huitzilopochtli, the patron god of the Mexica who guided them to Tenochtitlan. He was a god of war and his sacrifices had to be obtained through wars. When the Aztecs weren't waging enough war, they would literally LARPing that they were doing so (flower war) to nourish Huitzilopochtli move of sun in his battle against his sister and brothers to prevent the end of the world. Children were sacrificed to Tlaloc, but blood was not the main focus, but rather their tears since Tlaloc was a god of water/rain, they were tortured to cry as much as possible and then thrown to die slowly inside a cenote (underground lake). Anyway, why do you care about the sacrifice of people you consider inferior and on the same level as animals for slaughter, hypocrite?>>18114496Your guys also killed children.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Witchcraft_accusations_against_childrenhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infanticide#Middle_Ages
>>18114548Fun Fact: The Spanish killed more children in one day than the Aztecs did in centuries. According to the amount of sacrificed children in the Main Temple of Tenochtitlan, the Aztecs sacrificed about 70 children in 200 years. Spaniards killed 8000 nobles and their children on the same spot in a couple of hours.>While Hernán Cortés was in Tenochtitlan, he heard about other Spaniards arriving on the coast – Pánfilo de Narváez had come from Cuba with orders to arrest him – and Cortés was forced to leave the city to fight them. During his absence, Moctezuma asked deputy governor Pedro de Alvarado for permission to celebrate Toxcatl (an Aztec festivity in honor of Tezcatlipoca, one of their main gods). But after the festivities had started, Alvarado interrupted the celebration, killing almost everyone present at the festival, men, women, and children alike>The Spanish version of the incident claims the conquistadors intervened to prevent a ritual of human sacrifice in the Templo Mayor; the Aztec version says the Spaniards were enticed into action by the gold the Aztecs were wearing, prompting an Aztec rebellion against the orders of Moctezuma. While differing so on Alvarado's specific motive, both accounts are in basic agreement that the celebrants were unarmed and that the massacre was without warning and unprovoked
>>18114548>During the festivals of Atlacahualco, Tozoztontli, and Hueytozoztli, children were sacrificed by cutting their hearts out. They were selected by a favorable day sign and brought to seven different mountaintops around the city. Their crying was thought to portend rainI'm not lying you are paco.>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Witchcraft_accusations_against_childrenAgain about justice not torturing children to bring the rains like an animalistic demon.
>>18114560That was literally the Tlaxcalan injun savages you liar. Cortez ordered them not to kill women and children but they did anyway because injuns are violent and have low empathy nice try juan.
>>18114575The one who started the massacre at the templo mayor was literally a SPANIARD CONQUISTADOR, PEDRO DE ALVARADO, you didnt even read what he published Paco, but anyways, iberijeets are always like this.
>>18114575As the quote that guy posted clearly states, not even the Spanish sources ever dispute the fact that the conquistadors were the ones who ordered and put into practice the Toxcatl massacre. Also, Cortez wasn't even in the city when it happened, he couldn't exactly order anyone to do anything at all.You're probably getting it confused with the Cholula massacre, the one in which the Tlaxcaltecs were an important factor in its proceedings, and even in that case the Spaniards were a more than willing agent. Also, some of Cortez' soldiers who would later defect to other factions did accuse him of consciously letting his native allies continue to practice human sacrifice and cannibalism.
>>18114568>During the festivals of Atlacahualco, Tozoztontli, and Hueytozoztli, children were sacrificed by cutting their hearts out. They were selected by a favorable day sign and brought to seven different mountaintops around the city. Their crying was thought to portend rainWho were sacrificed to Tlaloc, a non-Mexica deity unlike Huitzilopochtli, the greatest god of the Aztecs. You should argue that they both shared the Templo Mayor instead this. Those who did this shit the most in Mexico were not even the Mexica/Aztecs, but the peoples who fought/were subordinates to them and allied themselves with the Spanish. It was these people who introduced the Cult of Tlaloc to them.The 20,000-70,000 estimate isn't even just for them, or even the Aztec Empire, it's for all of Mesoamerica sans the Maya area ("Central Mexico" as defined by Simpson/Borah/Cook, though i'd argue that term should exclude Veracruz, Oaxaca, Gurrero, and West Mexico), AND it's also not even really an estimate because it's just from harner proportionally scaling up Borah/Cook's 15,000 sacrifices a year estimate with revised population figures even though there's no reason to think sacrifice #'s scale proportionally with total population figures.TL;DR The people with whom the Spanish allied themselves (who are called/confused with Aztecs because they lived in the Aztec Empire and was the most powerful in the entire region) sacrificed more people than the Aztecs, who probably sacrificed between like 500 to 7000 people a year. Remembering that Tenochtitlan was founded in 1325.
>>18114568>torturing and burning children because of non-beliefs in the moral code of a bronze age midianite god is justiceYou mad.
>>18114366>weYou mean you, mesolarp? Yes, u r also provocative, that’s why your shitty threads sucks
>>18114488Happened almost every day, yes.
Someone tell me.. is the mesolarp the zucoid in disguise?
>>18114594>>18114601You have to remember that alot of conquistadors were non-white brown moors and savage guanches.Cortez was a man of honour not the monster the left try to paint him as.
>>18114300How is it any more primitive then the shit in >>18112988, both have large scale earthenworks but and similar wooden structures>>18114335I'm not anti-nord, I think Germanic, Celtic, and Norse metalwork art is gorgeous and really impressive stuff, and I think their earthenworks are really neat and they, like the Mississippians, show how you can do stuff just with earth and wood that's pretty cool. But if somebody is going to shit on other areas of history just to make their own pet topic seem more impressive, I think it's fair to call out the hypocrisy or poke fun at their expense sometimes, if it's clear that they're posting in bad faith>>18114398>>18114375That reconstruction of Yaxchilan bridge is somewhat speculative, but I haven't been able to suss out to what degree. I'd certainly take it with more grains of salt then say Gentling's art of Aztec palaces, which are very grounded and in line with actual fairly intact ruins from other sites, but I don't THINK the bridge reconstruction is complete speculation either, as I understand it if nothing else we have evidence of the spires in the middle across the river, and depending on how much is intact of the landings/abuttments on both sides of the bridge, that would implicitly kind of require a flat deck span and the suspenders, maybe?1/?
>>18114725cont:>>18114548Flower wars likely had as much use as pragmatic military/geopolitical tools as they did as a way to get captives, as argued by hassig, smith, etc, see: https://desuarchive.org/k/thread/58096307/#58178924 In general I favor a more pragmatic interpretation of Aztec militarism then a ritually driven one since most researchers lean that way, and the evidence that the Mexica ever actually specifically >>18114560Maybe there were 70 child skulls in the analyzed remains of the Huey Tzompantli, but that research found ~5% of skulls were from children and the rack seems to have held around ~16,000 skulls, not including the two skull towers (which are where the analyzed skulls are from). So the actual amount of sacrificed children would likely be like 800-1200+, emphasis on the "+" since we don't know how tall the towers were and they may not have contained earlier periods of deposits, though I do know from Lopez Lujan saying so that at least some of the skulls in the rack or towers were deposited prior to Ahuizotl's reign, which is when most of the deposits were>>18114615The Keeley graph here is nonense btw, the methodology for the Aztec figure is terrible, if people are curious I can post about it later if I have time. Keep in mind that while Zumárraga's 20k estimate is across a wider area then just tenochtitlan or even the aztec empire, and so is Harner's inflated total via borah/cook, there is a 20,000-80,000 estimate range for the 1487 reconsecreation of the great temple (for ahuizotl's coronation, the event where the huey tzompantli in the form we excavated it was probably made), but the rack's scale disproves those figures. >>18114646>>18114633None of the posts above you are from me, though one of the anons is basically remixing prior posts of mine2/2 for now
>>18114646Probably yes.
>>18114646No, the Mesofag is an objectively respectable poster who actually knows his shit and has been around on this board for as long as i can remember, since at least the first two years after its creation to be more specific. I do understand, judging by some of the other posts on that other thread that's up right now, that you're upset over people rightfully calling you out for your strange fixation on Teotihuacan's reconstructed status, but i don't think he's even responsible for most of it (a significant portion of it is me, in fact).The Brazilian avatarfag on the other hand is a much more recent phenomenon with a noticeably unique and distinct posting style that involves a whole lot of anime pictures and who seems to believe in a bunch of wacky magic shit, like Atlantis-type stuff, that the mesofag does not, though he does evidently seem to get a lot of his information information on more mundane aspects of Mesoamerica from the mesofag's posts.
>>18112945>If that were the case Mesoamericans would be considered superior to Scandinavians.uhhhh yeah if history stopped in the 15th century so you could ignore the fact that scandinavian countries are 10,000x more prosperous than any latam shithole
>>18114633Honestly, I don't think it's the same person at this point. The worshipper of magical Cubans is one of those spammers who use "Mesoamerica" as a weapon against Europeans, yes, but there are others. There's the guy who pretends to be cultured and intellectual, although he uses semantics to seem intelligent, and there's the brainless one above. In the end, they all use blogs, artistic drawings that are often not necessarily accurate, and of course, Wikipedia. I already debated with one of them about the population of Tenochtitlan; basically, I presented five different authors, and my response was mockery. They are not cultured. I wouldn't waste time, but you can troll them by saying the word "reconstruction." Just today, a guy in another thread said that one of the photos of Mesoamerica was a reconstruction, but you can troll them by saying the word "reconstruction."Just today, a guy in another thread said that one of the photos from Mesoamerica was a reconstruction, and he or she automatically invoked an anonymous person who hurt him for a thread months ago.Lol. The irony is that some of my posts were reported, perhaps because of a complaint.
>>18114714The guy who led the Toxcatl massacre was Pedro de Alvarado, Cortez' second in command most famous for his red/blond hair.
>>18114037>Tacitus himself was unsure how to place Belgae culturallynot that it changed much
>>18112945>racism is about skin colorexcept it isn't, since race isn't colorcolor is part of race when looking at massively zoomed parent groups like 1+1=2 conclusion that Africans and Europeans are different, but you have to have negative iq to think this is where racial borders are drawnthis is American-tier where they think race is "white, black, and Asian" without a hint of irony
>>18115302>except it isn't, since race isn't colorRace isn't color, but racism is
>>18112945>hut>comfy>built with the materials of your area>respects nature>birth strong eugenic people (meat and milk)>strong sense of community, strong mental health>save from plagues if isolated>city>inhuman (humans didn't evolve to live surrounded just by buildings and thousands of other humans), atomization every single time that has been tried>use materials from other regions>cost human and animal suffering>birth mental illnesses (because is anti-human), plagues and dysgenics (eat ze grain)Meme is unironically based.
>>18114853Ok?
>>18115752You're the same kind of wignat who whines about africans living in huts and how that's bad. Now you frame it this way.
>>18112945>Trvke: racism is about skin color.Not all racism is the same.But yeah there are definitely a lot of utter retards who can't look past color to the point where they'll define color based on theur racial wishes.Pretty schizo, but what can you do?Also protip: pic of preserved historical thing >>>>> artist's rendition regardless of subject.
>>18114745I've been here since this board existed, because I was infodumping about Mesoamerican shit on other boards since before /his/ was made, and I was on 4chan for many years before even that prior to when I started posting about MesoamericaAnyways, yes, Teotihuacan's structures have been moderately to heavily restored in some cases but the only structure I know of that really has it done in a misleading way is the Pyramid of the Sun, and most of the time you can tell what has been restored or not because there are pebbled inserted into the mortar on the restored bitsThat's more an indication then you'll get for heavily restored sections of roman or mesopotamian ruins in Italy or Iran>>18114763What did you say regarding Tenochtitlan's population? Link the thread on desuarchive and I'll give my thoughts
>>18118398>Link the thread on desuarchive and I'll give my thoughtsI don't have time for cheap academic jargon; your verbosity is fine on a Saturday afternoon, for example, when we don't have much to do. But just search on desuarchive.org and you'll remember the day. I only got mockery in response
>>18114763>>18114745Mesolarp is so annoying and biased
>>18113558the cimbri are descended from the same cimmerian traders that settled anatolia.at an early date they did wear horns, which is why schizo med historians put horns on vikings, because medshits lack temporal discernment
>>18114375Tenochtitlán was truly impressive looking for something a bunch of savages stuck in the stone age could build. It looked impressive even for 1500 European standards and they still couldn't work metal properly.Anyone that denies the beauty of Tenochtitlan is some save EVROPA soi.
>>18119500The thing Was ugly
