If the bible is the infallible word of god directly revealed to man through the scriptures why are there so many schisms in the church? If you can't even agree on basic things you just look silly to people outside of your community.
>>18114322>If the bible is the infallible word of god Jesus Christ is the Word of God. >why are there so many schisms in the church?Because of politics.>If you can't even agree on basic things90% of us agree on 90% of basic things (and even many advanced things). Secular institutions can barely keep this level of consensus after a century, we maintain it after 20 centuries. Not quite something to be ashamed of.
Any religion that traces its origins to a single person is false. The divine should be apparent to all humans without the need for religious education and institutions which have been corrupted by human politics.
>>18114322Most of the people you're talking about aren't real Christians (both of those threads are posted by non-Christians)
It makes sense that Catholics burnt people at the stake for reading the bible wrong.
>>18114337>Jesus Christ is the Word of God.How do you know that? Did you get it out of the Bible?
>>18114344They burned people at the stake for reading it right.
>>18114349From the testimony of his followers. A lot of it is in the Bible, yes.Also, I hope you understand I was making a point about what "Word of God" means in theology.
>>18114322The surest sign that Jesus was a Jewish apocalyptic preacher and not a divine being intending to found a church for all humanity is that he provided no framework for how the church as an institution should be set up, which opened the door for the retardation we see today.
>>18114353You were denying biblical inspiration like a heretic.
>>18114353>From the testimony of his followersThe gospels are not testimony.
>>18114351Is there any church that bothers to read it right? Even if exposed to an older Greek or Latin translation they immediately choose to ignore the difference in favor of modern politics. We haven't had anyone claiming to follow Jesus who was also able to follow the original intent since Luther died.
>>18114351>They burned people at the stake for reading it right.Which one of the hundreds of sects got it right?
>>18114359No I am fine with the scripture being inspired. >>18114367Sure they are. You might make a big deal out of the fact that we cannot be sure of when exactly these testimonies were written down or that we have very few unbiased sources about names and whatnot, but those aren't really arguments. They're admissions that secular methods cannot reach the same conclusions the Church has reached. I'm fine with that.
>>18114371Yes, the Reformed churches>>18114372>hundreds of sects It was real in your mind
>>18114379>Sure they are.They are not witness accounts of events. They are in essence religious advertisements.
>>18114385>It was real in your mindWhat is? Are there not hundreds of different Christian denominations out there? You need to include Mormons as well.
>>18114389They are both.
>>18114393>Are there not hundreds of different Christian denominations out there?No.>You need to include Mormons as well.Lol no
>>18114322>If the bible is the infallible word of god directly revealed to man through the scriptures It isn't. The Old Testament is the amalgamated collected Yahwist nonsense shoehorned and nigger-rigged with Hellenistic and Zoroastrian themes to be about the True God when it's really mostly about the War God Yahweh, and the Gospels/Epistles are eyewitness/collection of eyewitness testimony + the writings of fallible men. There is truth in them, but you have to discern it.>why are there so many schisms in the church? The entire Church has been in schism since the start, because men like Peter and James did not realize the truth of the Incarnation and the Resurrection and continued the worship of the false god and the upholding of his false rituals.
>>18114385>Yes, the Reformed churchesThat doesn't make any sense as a reply...
>>18114428It answers the question
>why cant these inherently flawed beings (as we all are) all come together and agree on something?How the fuck do people get through life without basic thinking?
>>18114322Most people don't believe the Bible, they merely make lip service to it. This is a profoundly boring "gotcha". Enjoy burning.
>>18114465It truly is shocking what these disgusting animals think constitutes "reasoning". It makes me physically ill to see these rodents making an attempt at middle-school level philosophy.
>>18114465If you had basic thinking you wouldn't be a Christian
>>18114355See the following, including the Great Commission:"And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen."(Matthew 28:18-20)"When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel?And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power.But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth."(Acts 1:6-8)"Moreover if thy brother shall trespass against thee, go and tell him his fault between thee and him alone: if he shall hear thee, thou hast gained thy brother.But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.And if he shall neglect to hear them, tell it unto the church: but if he neglect to hear the church, let him be unto thee as an heathen man and a publican.Verily I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever ye shall loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.Again I say unto you, That if two of you shall agree on earth as touching any thing that they shall ask, it shall be done for them of my Father which is in heaven.For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them."(Matthew 18:15-20)
