The modern "Church" has no real connection to Jesus and are liars. None of their doctrine is in line with anything Jesus actually preached.All early Christians were Gnostic. Jesus himself preached Gnosticism.After Constantine "converted to Christianity", he suppressed and labeled actual Christians (I.E. Gnostics) as "heretics" and created a more Roman-friendly version based on the works of people like Origen and Cyril who in their time were fringe and considered schizos by other Christians for not believing in Gnosis.They say Gnostics are "heretics", but it anything it is they who are "heretics" for believing the Demiurge's lies.
>>18117663Churches are the enemy of god desu. However communities need ritual to function on a social level, which is why the gays replaced church with pride parades and such. It's a conundrum.
>>18117663>Origen and Cyril who in their time were fringe and considered schizos by other Christians for not believing in Gnosis.Im far from a dogmatic orthofag, but, source on this claim?
>>18117663Do you have any evidence of this?
>>18117663Gnosticism = fake and gay magician cult.
>>18117663The only part of gnosticism that still exists is the wicked synagogue of satan, and they are just about as wrong as you can be on every issue.
>>18117663Amazing, literally every sentence is wrong, and I doubt you have even read gnostic writings.
>>18117663I think Christ taught Neoplatonism and Jews were mad that he taught a universal message over one that favored the "chosen people" and argued to abolish the priestly class. Gospel of Thomas is about as far as I go in-terms of believing gnosticism though.
>>18119001Judaism does acknowledge universal messages https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_Laws_of_Noah
>>18117663No, there were two main groups of early Christians. In Jesus' homeland they were Jewish Christians who kept the law and all that, and in foreign lands where Paul preached they were the more gnostic type. This is obvious because Gnosticism is just Greek philosophy with an Abrahamic twist, and this happened because of religious syncretism. Of course both regions were intertwined and that seems to be why you had the two powers in heaven Jewish heresy and also in Greek lands pagan monotheistic thought. All this being said modern Christianity is a mixture of the two strands, which is why you have so many universalist neoplatonic elements in the newer religious texts but at the same time they don't consider the deity in the OT evil for his genocides and just exclusive preference for one tribe
>>18118762Nope, the Jews are anti-Gnostic as they worship the Demiurge and believe his lies. That’s why they killed Jesus, because he exposed the demiurge’s lies.
>>18117663What in HELL is wrong with you and your hate-love relationship with gnosis, 4chan?
>>18120128>Nope, the Jews are...I said the synagogue of Satan, which is those who claim to be Jews and are not.
Some of the early Christians were Gnostics. There were dozens of sects that got pruned over the centuries.
>>18120211Then who the hell were the pharisees and saducees in the new testament? Let me guess? Edomites?
>>18120708They were hypocrites who made many of the same errors that later groups would replicate long after they were gone. The Pharisees and scribes ignored the written word of God in favor of their fraudulent manmade traditions which they called an "oral tradition", very similar to later gnostic groups, and the different brands of Catholicism, that came centuries later.Pharisees and Sadducees were ideological factions who pretended to be relevant to the ancient Jews as a whole. As for ancient Jews as a whole, there were people who joined Israel in the Old Testament, despite not being from one of the original tribes (see the book of Esther for example). People would do this ostensibly because they shared the faith described by the Biblical prophecies.The Pharisees and scribes represented a warped version of this, as did the Sadducees. They would lie and say that rules they had just dreamt up and made up yesterday were ancient commandments of Moses. These rules actually had nothing to do with the Bible beyond a superficial similarity. In fact Jesus points out that these manmade traditions of the Pharisees were even used to subvert the written Law and Scriptures (see Mark 7:7-13). The Pharisees as a whole were skilled and clever pretenders and actors. Their leaders especially were inwardly wicked, while a few were temporarily misguided people who would later renounce Pharisaism upon realizing how fraudulent it was.After the second temple was destroyed and the Bar Kokhba revolt of A.D. 136, only a small remnant of believers who had converted to Christianity remained, while the Judeans as a whole were destroyed by the Romans.Centuries later, a heretical gnostic cult in Persia (c. 3rd to 5th century AD) began to hallucinate that they were "Jews." They actually have nothing to do with the actual Jews, though they did plagiarize various ideas from certain parts of the Christian Bible. Ever since then they have been fraudulently calling themselves "Judaism."
>>18120803>the mental gymnastics and historical revisionism christians do to not admit that their religion comes from jews>They actually have nothing to do with the actual JewsThen explain why they follow the old testament laws like not eating pigs, rabbits, crusteceans and following the sabbath? I don't like jews either but I laugh at the hypocrisy of you so called "right-wing" christians accusing the jews of what you are doing like claiming to be the real jews and not following the torah.
>>18117663Have fun burning. I can't wait to hear your screams. :)
