Are equality and human rights Christian concepts?
>>18118185>great britain, a christian empireSelf-professed Catholic btw
>>18118185>equalitynebulous. if by that you mean "everyone is literally the same" then the answer is "No">human rightsnot as people seem to think "human rights" are.however "thou shalt not oppress the stranger, the fatherless, and the widow" implies that God is the one who "owns" human life and therefore it is not YOUR right to treat people however you want.
>>18118185Maybe you would like to ask all the people killed by the church for not being the "right kind of chrsitian"?
>>1811819799% of so called 'Christian wars' were in reality glorified feudal disputes between the French and the Germans.
>>18118185if you want to know what Christianity is, don't listen to some priest or some fool, listen to the Christ. is that simple. but are you interested? of course not
>>18118185"Kill them all and let god sort them out"
>>18118213If Christianity is so great and leads to superior moral values as Vance says, why is it that any example of a Christian nation from in history is met with "those were CHINOs, real Christianity has never been tried"?
Nah, Masonic.
>>18118185Yes, in Christ all who are the light of God (whites) are equal. That worked very well for about 1500 years, and it was only when the world was blinded by the enemy and no longer discerned any difference between the light and the dark that things all fell to hell.
>>18118185well those 2 are certainly not islamic traits
>>18118185>slaveryChristendom seemed to have had little qualms with slavery existing within its domains for the 1,500 years between Constantine's conversion and the prohibition of the slave trade. >child sacrificeChristians may have been appalled by instances of human sacrifice among those they encountered, but gave little thought to the mass deaths of entire peoples that followed their arrival (including their own allies against such perpetrators). It seems like such ostensibly Christian concepts as "equality" and "human rights" are useful only to the extent they are concepts and not immanent to the real world.
>>18118197Every civilization does thatChristianity is the only one who strived, and managed to end it all
>>18118805Not at allChristianity strived to end slavery as early as 500 AD.Queen Bathilde and St. Francis started reforms that banned slavery of ChristiansByzantine Empire offered baptisms to POVs so they wouldn't be enslavedThe banning of Christian slaves and free availability of baptisms are one of the biggest contributing factors for the rise of Feudalism.Upon the discovery of the Americas, Burgos passed the Laws of Burgos to grant rights to the Native Americans under Christian values. This led to Human Rights that we see todayHuman Rights never existed in any civilization until Christians became powerful enough to start enforcing it
>>18118896The Declaration of the Rights of Man were made by secular enlightenment liberals reacting to the inequalities perpetuated or protected by the conservative order, among which was the Catholic Church.Nice try.
>>18118655>Are equality and human rights Christian concepts?"Yes and" kill them all>>18118655
>>18118185Christian society was never truly Christian, ESPECIALLY colonial America. It is entirely guided by Rothschild manipulated Puritanism and Masonry. Those little shits had no problem throwing indigenous people into “school” camps, making Africans their farm equipment, OR raping and torturing said groups of people, namely women and children to their early graves. This narrative is fucking old. Vance is probably a kabalistic ritual child fucker and killer. I only wish minorities knew these dumbasses don’t represent the whole of whites and the torture they faced, but a longstanding cult as the result of victimization of early Germanic tribes by Jewish Romans. That cult that came after the second temple is the worlds parasite, no one is all the wiser.
>>18118986Enshrining equality was a disaster.
>>18119006>get a haircut and learn to read, injun! >literally genocide!
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>>18118986KekWhere'd you hear that?Laws of Burgos were the first attempt at granting Equal rights to non-Christian native Americans, regardless of faith, economic status, nationality, and the lord they servedThe emancipation of slaves was started by the QuakersThe Papal bull of Sublimis Deus (1530's) forbid the enslavement of Native AmericansEnlightment was 200 years too late and none of them saw it as atheistic. No, they all saw it as a better form of Christianity
>>18118185Yes and it was a horrible mess that we need to unfuck ourselves from before it's too late.
>>18119025German woman, Jewish man couples are practically nonexistent. What the fuck is this? lol
>>18119026>see i only oppress non-christians>we are such good people>Ignore the Hacienda Serfs btw and lack of equal rights for the Indios. Lmao
>>18119046Inequality is the Norm throughout the entire world for all of historyEquality is a battle that Christianity fought for bit by bit. One at a time
>>18118805>deaths from covid carry the same moral weight as Chinese organ harvesting
>>18118185Why does it say "PORN" in big bold letters behind him?
Oh, now the resident e-caths consider the protestant bongs that forcefully attempted to stop the slave trade as "fellow christians" kek
A christianity just flew over my house.
>>18119026>The Papal bull of Sublimis Deus (1530's) forbid the enslavement of Native AmericansIn 1545, Paul repealed an ancient law that allowed slaves to claim their freedom under the emperor's statue on Rome's Capitoline Hill, in view of the number of homeless people and tramps in the city.[23] The decree included those who had become Christians after their enslavement and those born to Christian slaves. The right of inhabitants of Rome to publicly buy and sell slaves of both sexes was affirmed.[24] Stogre (1992) asserts that the lifting of restrictions was due to a shortage of slaves in Rome.[25] In 1548, Paul authorized the purchase and possession of Muslim slaves in the Papal states.[26]
>>18119026>The emancipation of slaves was started by the QuakersSikhism opposes slavery, a stance that is rooted in the teachings of Guru Nanak, the first Sikh Guru, who preached against all forms of inequality. Sikhism emphasizes human equality by rejecting caste hierarchy and practically promotes this principle through institutions like Sangat (congregation) and Pangat (the communal meal) where everyone eats together regardless of social status. Guru Nanak's teachings: Guru Nanak preached a message of equality and rejected the caste system and other social hierarchies that were prevalent at the time.Sangat and Pangat: To put these ideas into practice, the Sikh community created institutions like Sangat (holy fellowship) and Pangat (the community meal). In the Pangat, all people, regardless of their background, sit together to eat, which directly undermined the principles of social division and hierarchy that supported slavery.Rejection of slavery: The religious and social framework of Sikhism is built on the principle of spiritual and social equality, making slavery incompatible with its core tenets.
>>18119313That was a lie, lolThey banned the trading of slaves, but allowed the enslavement based on Chaste rank, which makes no differenceAlso,>India>EqualityHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHThere was never an "Equality" - everyone is different from anotherThere's only "Equality under the eyes of God" - everyone has an equally important role in his plan
>>18119026>Laws of Burgos were the first attempt at granting Equal rights to non-Christian native Americans, regardless of faith, economic status, nationality, and the lord they servedNo, the Spanish Empire did not ban African slavery in New Spain. While a 1639 papal bull banned slavery in the colonies, it was not enforced for African slaves due to the need for labor on plantations and in other industries. The Spanish Crown later banned the slave trade in 1817 but did not abolish slavery itself in its colonies, which was a separate and much later process.
>>18119317lol accept that bro. Your religion is not special.Sikhism generally opposes the subjugation of one human by another, with Sikh Gurus preaching against slavery and advocating for human equality. The practice of slavery in the Sikh Empire was limited, and historical figures like Jassa Singh Ahluwalia were recognized as "liberators of slaves". While some historical texts like the Prem Sumarag Granth have been interpreted to permit slavery, most Sikh scholars consider these texts to be contrary to core Gurus' teachings, which emphasized equality and the abolition of practices like untouchability and the caste system. Sikh teachings and principlesRejection of inequality: The first Guru, Guru Nanak, preached against slavery and promoted human equality by rejecting caste hierarchies.Equality in practice: Institutions like Sangat (congregation) and Pangat (communal eating) were established to put these principles into practice by bringing people together on an equal footing.Spiritual "slavery": The concept of being a "slave" is also used in a spiritual sense, referring to submission to divine commands or the laws of nature, which involves overcoming ego rather than physical subjugation. THE FIRST GURU NOT SOME SHIT IN BIBLE THAT APPROVE SLAVERY.
>>18119286>in view of the number of homeless people and tramps in the city.Ah, so he did this because the city is overflowing with hobos and prostitutesHonestly, we do need this right now
>>18119320Ok, Dalit
>>18119321NOT IT SHOW THAT YOUR RELIGION ALLOW SLAVERY IF THEY WANT.
>>18119319Duh!One at a timePoint is, Christianity already got the snowball rollingAtheists are just claiming it for themselves despite the fact that the movement started by Christ was already barreling through every cultural norms
>>18119323cope more. Your bible accept slavery but somehow shit hole indian dalit have that opinion in india. where have hindu and musim dominate.
>>18119329Ok, dalit
>>18119327yeah and they can undo slavery becasue in the fucking history pope allow slavery. Atheist can say it harm people body. So they can ban them. But pope can allow becasue he is the representation of god and god allow slavery
>>18119333Pope has no real political authority outside of the Papal States.The Papal States make up just 1/3 of Italy
>>18119331sikh religion at least have their first guru who give equality and oppose slavery but your god jew allow that ha ha cope and seethe.Guru Nanak was a strong opponent of slavery, advocating for human equality and denouncing the practice of owning other people. His teachings promoted equality by rejecting the caste system and promoting the equal value of all people, which was reinforced through practices like the community kitchens (langar) and congregations (sangat). Although some stories suggest he was briefly taken as a prisoner of war and forced into labor, he was known for advocating for the freedom of others, and the Sikh empire later abolished many forms of servitude.
>>18119336Ok, dalit
>>18119334yeah but he say he representaion of christ or some shit. He has god will bro. Atheist is shit how can understand god will of pope chad.
>>18119340The Pope was never the representative of God lolHe's just the leader of the Church
>>18119343The Pope is considered by Catholics to be the earthly representative of God, specifically of Jesus Christ, acting as the "Vicar of Christ". This role is based on the belief that the Pope is the successor to the Apostle Peter, who was given authority by Jesus to lead the Church on Earth. While the Pope represents Christ, this is distinct from being God, and the Pope is seen as a human who carries out Christ's mission on Earth.
>>18118185America is complicit in jihadis murdering Armenian and middle eastern Christians. Ever since America started running amok in the middle east the Christian population has nose dived and al Qaeda is now running an entire country. America is the greatest persecutor of Christians in history, there is nothing Christian about it.
>>18119346No, he's notPope wasn't even that big of a deal until the fall of the Byzantine Empire and Orthodoxy
>>18119416catholic see that and the people who post anime shit cute chibi is catholic.
>>18119469*person
>>18119339On November 30, 1517 the Emperor of England, Henry-VIII, wrote two letters no. 3815-3816 to Arabia, Ethiopia, India etc, by requesting them that he (Henry-VIII) needed 200000 men from these areas for their sale in America. (ref. State Papers---Domestic and Foreign, Great Britain,1891). Of that quota, 270 Hindustani (East Indian) and African slaves reached the port of present day Boca Chica, Texas in 1519. The proof of the presence of Hindustani slaves in this regions lies in the fact that Charles-V, The Holy Roman Emperor, issued a slave trade license to the governor of Jamaica in 1518 (Ref "Atlantic Slave Trade" by Hugh Thomas). Therefore, Alonse de Pineda brought 270 slaves of Hindustan and African descent from Jamaica to present day Boca Chica, Texas. Satguru Nanak Sahib advised the slaver owners, traders and villagers that no body has the right to enslave others. Everybody has the same red blood in his or her veins, and everyone also has the right to defend himself or herself. Alonso de Pineda subsequently released the 270 slaves in his possession in 1519 and the natives in the area rebelled against the later slave raids (Ref."The Lone Star Guide to Parks and Campground", 2009). In this manner, the 270 slaves that were supposed to be used in Texas were freed. Perhaps it was due to this event that Guru Nanak was labelled as the founder or modern concepts of anti-slavery and self-defence (Ref. PP 1425 of "The Christian Advocate," dated September 9, 1909).
>>18119474lol sure, dalit
>>18119474The only source for your claim that Satguru Nanak Sahib ever freed slaves comes from Sikhs
Great of him to say that! Now will the administration start loving its neighbors and stop worshipping mammon?
>>18119488Divide the goats from the sheep first
>>18118185it's more specifically catholicism that created equality and human rightsthe magna carta for examplealso the spanish inquisition gave better due process than secular courts at the time
>>18118192He's a Hindu-Catholic. New syncretic religion.
All of these concepts come from Augustine's synthesis of Neoplatonism and Christianity. Christianity alone makes you an Orthotard.
>>18118213you are right including who owned the pope
>>18118896>Human Rights never existed in any civilization until Christians became powerful enough to start enforcing itDo you know who Cyrus the great is? Why lie?
>>18118294Prophesy about the world being deceived is fulfilled.
JD Vance's takes are the ultimate midwit's takes. Shallow enough to be partly true on the outside, but not deep enough to be of any substance on the inside.This one take is very easy to take apart with a lot of "Well actually...." but it's been done a thousand times.It's just typical Republican political slime looking for votes from doofus Americans. The fact that he married a pagan should tell you all you need to know
