would athenians have fought in the peloponnesian war if they saw what results their incompetent leaders were going to bring about?
>>18118746Their mistake was fighting Sparta on Sparta's termsAthenians were weekend warriors, Spartans were professionals
>>18118755>Their mistake was fighting Sparta on Sparta's termscan you really blame them after pericles was claimed by the plague? it was all downhill for athens after he died and the fact that no athenian leader was as good as he was at leading the city during the war should say something about the period in which they were in
>>18118746>Athens thought they could turtle the whole game>Lose anyways
>>18118814I don't blame them at all and I could have not done better myself. Pericles was a remarkable statesman and a very astute politician. But having the entire apparatus hinge on one very gifted man is a huge liability as history shows with my aquiline hindsight. My point is Athens should have avoided direct confrontation with Sparta at all costs. They were richer and had a better fleet. Should have played to their own strengths. I'm not saying hire unreliable mercenaries like the Carthaginians did, but use the money to slowly build a professional standing army.
They were either naive enough to not understand the risk or they simply did not care, either way they chose not too.
>>18118746a view of modern day athens for comparison
>>18118862>But having the entire apparatus hinge on one very gifted manis that what happened? it's been a while since i read the history of the peloponnesian war but i was under the memory that while he was responsible for enacting that policy, it was ultimately up to the citizens to decide on what to do?
>>181189335 miles to the acropolis, an hour and a half walking at a brisk pace
>>18118933That circular port looks cool, remembers me to Carthage.
>>18118933Something aweing about knowing that place 2000 years ago would just have been a village. Maybe two or three.
>>18118941Plato's ship comes to mind
Yes. Sparta became Persia's proxy
