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So what the fuck was Falangism?
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>>18119633
Spanish Fascism, secular, anti-monarchist, populist movement bordering on Socialism, but with very nationalistic and militaristic characteristics that strongly opposed Communists and Anarchists so they would ally against them even with extreme reactionaries like the Carlists.

Their leader got killed before the civil war, then the general they picked to lead them died in a plane crash. Eventually the Falangist party got co-opted by traditionel Spanish elites, landowners, church leaders etc. Franco eventually took over and turned it into a generic authoritarian reactionary party. Some of the last old school Falangists got sent to die fighting in Russia with the Nazis.
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>>18119656
>anti-monarchist
>Spaniard have their kings back
The irony.
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>>18119660
That's because Franco was not really a Fascist, just a milquetoast boomer (not in the literal sense, in mindset) military officer who wanted to bring back an imagined good old days but he was afraid to even go full crazy feudalist reactionary so he didn't side with the Carlists and supported the Burbon line that was in power before the Republic.
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A stupid LARP, Franco, man of God and common sense, sucked them into his grand anti-left coalition.
>>18119678
Franco went with what werks, he brought in the Opus Dei technocrats and Spain was doing very well.
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>>18119633
Catholic syndicalist fascism.
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>>18119678
>That's because Franco was not really a Fascist
He wasn't really anything in particular. He was a feigned nationalist who only ever cared for his own rule. It's why he didn't predict or care for Juan Carlos' eventual betrayal.
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Franco fits either of the two prevailing definitions of facism pretty well, not that I am saying this is a strong argument for classifying him that way.
"Fascism" reads very differently to people who were adults in the 1940s (and maybe knew what a fasces was) than it does to modern audiences. I'm not sure Franco would have objected.
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>>18120757
This word is so stupid it shouldn't even be used. Imagine if folk unironically debated if Lenin was a Montagnar or not.
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>>18119905
All fascists are syndicalists, otherwise they wouldn't be fascists. Fascism is just another word for National-syndicalism.

Franco however was kinda like Chinas identity as communist today. He kept the logo but that was pretty much it.
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>>18119011
Faggot.
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>>18119633
State Syndicalism basically which is the economic doctrine of fascism for the most part.
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>>18119633

Structural feudalism in 20th century military attire, technology, doctrines...
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>>18119905
>Catholicism
>Fascism

Pick one.

>>18120757
>Franco fits either of the two prevailing definitions of facism pretty well, not that I am saying this is a strong argument for classifying him that way.

Bullshit.

>>18120799
>Imagine if folk unironically debated if Lenin was a Montagnard or not.

He wasn't, otherwise, they wouldn't have orchestrated that counter-coup in November.
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>>18119678
He was a monarchist, in a broad sense, but he was also a caudillo, and if you stydt spanish and american history, you'll know that while them being in favor of tradition and religion, they're not to keen to give up power to some weak leader sitting comfortable on the rear
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>>18119656
Falangism wasn't technically anti-monarchist
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>>18119633
Authoritarian Trad-Catholicism, with National Syndicalism characteristics.
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>>18119678
I fucking despise the Franco simping on the far-right, he fundamentally killed a movement and turned into a personalist dictatorship. He was no less retarded than Salazar.

The Falange had an actual vision for a modern anti-liberal Spain whilst also recognizing the disgusting overreach of the Catholic church in the country.

It's a shame that every Fascist movement degenerated so significantly.
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>>18123080
Salazar didn't fuck up, if anything, things went extremely well for him and his lusotropicalist project. The problem with that was that it meant portugal proper would end up at the mercy of a growing, lusophone african elite, which the white, nationalist officers simply couldn't stomach, hence the military coup attempt, carnatian revolution and the granting of independance to the colonies.
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>>18123080
>The Falange had an actual vision for a modern anti-liberal Spain whilst also recognizing the disgusting overreach of the Catholic church in the country.
Tell me more!
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Jose Antonio and his gang of Chuds

I mean look at the state of these cunts lol
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>>18124024
A chuds are derogatory terms for Finns or people with dark skin.



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