Did Hitler know about the Holocaust
>>18120277Given that the regime persecuted many people, where did he think so many people went? Even saying they all went to regular prisons wouldn't make much sense, since there were around twenty million people, which is almost half the population of England or the population of Florida.
This is obviously ragebait and it's not even particularly upsetting. Do better. Photoshop a picture of a rabbi shaking hands with an SS officer and make the caption something like "why would anyone call Hitler antisemitic?". That'd be upsetting.If this is a genuine question, which I won't rule out given shockingly high illiteracy in America and censorship of the Holocaust in the rest of the world, then yes, Hitler did know about the Holocaust. This is because he was the dictator that advocated for the annihilation of the Jewish race and ordered the creation of concentration camps. I'd definitely reccomending watching a few videos on the topic, and if you're literate, reading a few articles or even a book on the rise of Hitler.
>>18120277He died 30 years before it was invented
>>18120277>Did Churchill know about Middle Earth?
>>18120411the contemporary mythos is what truly does not "make sense," every single piece of physical and circumstantial evidence points to it being a soviet/jewish invention with very little and VERY exaggerated/inconsistent witness testimony which lines up with no physical evidence and 1-2 pieces of documentation if you interpret it that way
He was on a lot of drugs he wouldn't notice unless anyone told him
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>>18120277He knew he was disposing of undesirable groups in work camps. They made a lot of the war effort possible by producing basic shit that couldn't be sabotaged. He didn't know about the rollercoaster mine carts that dumped people into incinerators.
>>18120277Theres no evidence he knew. Most evidence points to a small group of rogue officers orchestrating the entire fiasco. They called themselves the Burn-Jew Boys. The BJB likely only comprised of 12 or 8 people, but with clever use of the rail network and falsified papers they were able to trick contractors into building the factories of death. And thats the scariest part, it only took a few individuals to do all this because of how effective the chambers were. One guard at the gate, one at the door, one on the roof and a few in towers to fake a fully garrisoned camp.
>>18120845What? is the point here you chimp out on people who disagree with you?
>>18120533>he was the dictator that advocated for the annihilation of the Jewish race and ordered the creation of concentration campssource?
>>18122024They will take Hitler out of context and ignore when he said "I have liquidated the French nation" and "We have annihilated the Czechs" all in reference to their victory over them.They will say that Liquidate when used in conjunction with the jews means genocide then completely ignore that it simply meant victory over, not genocide, every other time it was used.
>>18120277Yes. The Wannsee Conference had representatives from the German government, Nazi Party, SA, The German military, and the SS.
>>18122024>>18122030No anon, its actually deniers who have this very myopic view of this stuff. When you zoom out and look at everything in context its very obvious that the holocaust happened and you can tie Hitlers quotes to specific actions that his regime (which he had totalitarian control over) did. The hoaxer method is to hyper focus on nearly irrelevant details, trying to poke holes in them, while ignoring the overall larger issue.
>>18120808>every single piece of physical and circumstantial evidence points to it being a soviet/jewish inventionThis is out of date neo-nazi rhetoric boomer. First reports of the holocaust came from the Polish underground
>>18122035Wannsee conference wasnt about mass murder
>>18120277Did Kaiser Wilhelm knew about his corpse factories?Did Saddam knew about babies pulled out of incubators?It's all war propaganda anon used to villainize the side your state is fighting against. The only difference is that these are war propagandas that got refuted after the war was over, Holocaust did not so it's part of official history now.
>>18122066Wannsee Conference was indeed about mass murder. They outright say that a large number of jews will die in the process of the plan they laid out. Going off of the "hoaxers are myopic" line, when we pull back and also examine things like the camps specifically having crematoriums to prepare for large numbers of deaths, it makes it that much clearer. btw, Auschwitz was originally built as a German military barrack. It was later converted into a prison complex for Polish citizens and only after this, converted into a concentration camps for mainly jewish prisoners. It was around this time specifically that the crematoriums were added
>>18122075>The only difference is that these are war propagandas that got refuted after the war was over, Holocaust did not so it's part of official history now.thats because the holocaust happened though. Also, war propaganda like that happens before the war to drum everyone up for it. Most holocaust stuff comes after the war so your whole argument is fucking retarded.
>>18122089>Most holocaust stuff comes after the war there are people ITT posting reports of holocaust and gas chambers from 1942
>>18122098>MOSTMOST MOST I said MOST holocaust stuff, not ALL holocaust stuff. And all the stuff mentioned here>>18122055is AFTER the war started and after the US joined the war after being attacked by Japan
>>18122098>posting reports of holocaust and gas chambers from 1942This is not evidence of murder. Also no one has posted any reliable evidence of gas chambers being used as a form of execution.>>18122084>Wannsee conferenceNo one actually knows what happened and it was retroactively said it concerned the holocaust. It was, as the evidence suggests, a conference about what the fuck theyre going to do with 3-5 million POWs in a country that cant even feed its own people let alone an additional 2-3% of their total population being added every year.>camps had crematoriumsThis is not evidence of murder.They had crematoriums because they were expecting their POWs to die due to lack of food and medicine.If youre under siege and you lock someone away and they die because of the conditions that everyone undergoes are felt more harshly for the imprisoned, is this murder? no.Is it genocide? no.Is it deliberate? no.>crematoriums were added specifically when the number of prisoners began to reach the hundreds of thousands and food became scarceyeah fucking obviously.You must prove why the alternative explanation, which suits Occam's razor, is not correct. Otherwise we MUST assume, based on the lack of evidence for the holocaust, that what we expect to see and what see is actually what happened, and not some fantasy about gas chambers and rollercoasters.
>>18122089>the holocaust happened thoughso where is the evidence that gas chambers were ever used as a method of mass execution?>most holocaust stuff comes from after the waryeah, like most of the WMD talk about iraq ALSO came from after the war when the media and government were fumbling everything and trying to play off the outrageous claims made before and during the conflict.There is simply no evidence for many of the claims made about the holocaust.That is just a fact and modern academics even recognize this when they are educated outside of America and Europe.
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>>18122126>No one actually knows what happened and it was retroactively said it concerned the holocaust. It was, as the evidence suggests, a conference about what the fuck theyre going to do with 3-5 million POWs in a country that cant even feed its own people let alone an additional 2-3% of their total population being added every year.This is just factually not true. We have the entire meeting minute logs and reports. The meeting was NOT about Prisoners of War, it was specifically about jewish people in sections of Europe under German control at the time. They even included a breakdown of the number of jews in Each country. Pic related, its an actual page from the Wannsee Conference document. >This is not evidence of murder.Again, stop being myopic. Why would they go out of their way to build a crematorium complex with the ability to process nearly 1 MILLION bodies in a year if they were not expecting a massive rate of mortalities? Again, the Wannsee papers outright say this, they knew a large number of people were going to die from this plan.Also, if you arrest people and send them to a prison complex and do not feed them or give them medical care and just let them die from starvation or disease, thats murder anon. Like what sort of argument is that supposed to be?
January 20, 1942SS Obergruppenführer Reinhard Heydrich, acting on behalf of the Reich Security Main Office, oversaw a meeting with officials from the SS, the SA, the National Socialist party, The German military, and members of the German government. The meeting was held in the Berlin suburb of Wannsee.Over the course of 90 min. this meeting goes over what they refer to as “the final solution to the Jewish question.” Among other things, they are presented with a census of all Jews in Europe and are instructed on plans to gather up all of these Jews, move them into ghettos used as holding stations, and from there shipped to various camps across Eastern Europe.The meeting also lays out the specific criteria of who will be considered a Jew.Here is the full transcript of the meeting minutes, which were transcribed by Adolf Eichmann, acting as Heydrichs number 2 during the meeting. It is 10 pages long.https://holocaust.umd.umich.edu/news/uploads/WanseeProtocols.pdf
>>18122165>what about the Haavra Agreement? Or the Madagascar plan?As the meeting laid out, the Reich had two objectives concerning Jews in Germany>a) the expulsion of the Jews from every sphere of life of the German people,>b) the expulsion of the Jews from the living space of the German people.They sought emigration of Jews as a legal way to rid themselves of them, but this proved to be a logistical nightmare, especially since the Jews were expected to foot the bill entirely on their own. Also, host nations for Jewish migrants faced issues with being able to take them in. The documents show that concerning the over half a million Jews in Germany proper, the emigration solution was officially cancelled with the outbreak of the war in Europe in favor of the plan laid out in Wannseepic related is Jewish emigration from Germany before the war. Notice how most would move to areas that would later be taken by Germany during the war, making their movement to escape Nazi rule moot.
>>18122169A common excuse you often see deniers make is that the 6 million figure of the Holocaust is impossible since there were not that many Jews in Europe at the time.But the Wannsee Conference included a census of all the Jews in Europe, which was broken down by country. According to official Reich documents, they estimated that there were 11 million Jews in Europe as of 1942. Also, they note that the total number is probably higher since in foreign countries, Jews are only calculated by those who practice the religion. Since they do not specifically categorize them by race, as the Reich does, they lay out procedure on how to do this in other countries to get a more accurate number.It also clearly states what is to be done with the Jews of Europe under Germany authority>Under proper guidance, in the course of the final solution the Jews are to be allocated for appropriate labor in the East. Able-bodied Jews, separated according to sex, will be taken in large work columns to these areas for work on roads, in the course of which action doubtless a large portion will be eliminated by natural causes.>The possible final remnant will, since it will undoubtedly consist of the most resistant portion, have to be treated accordingly, because it is the product of natural selection and would, if released, act as a the seed of a new Jewish revival (see the experience of history.)>In the course of the practical execution of the final solution, Europe will be combed through from west to east. Germany proper, including the Protectorate of Bohemia and Moravia, will have to be handled first due to the housing problem and additional social and political necessities.>The evacuated Jews will first be sent, group by group, to so-called transit ghettos, from which they will be transported to the East.From page 6https://holocaust.umd.umich.edu/news/uploads/WanseeProtocols.pdf
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>>18122126>I know that I do NOT have the ability to feed or take care of prisoners>But I will take these prisoners anyway and I will build a facility in order to dispose of their bodies because I know a large number of them will die under my watch>this isnt deliberate btwAnon, youre retarded. By yiour own definition and excuse, it is 100% deliberate.
>>18122153>we have the entire meeting minute logs and reportsNo, we actually do not have a reliable account.>not about prisoners of warIt was, that is why it covers hostile groups being taken into custody by German forces.>myopicIts not myopic.We are applying a reasonable standard of evidence like what we would have in a modern court respecting American jurisprudence.>Why would they go out of their way to build crematoriumsbecause they are expecting a lot of casualties in these camps. We know as early as 1941 the German leadership said they could not keep even half of the POWs taken alive.I think we agree here.However this isnt murder, this is just a matter of fact calculation about taking massive numbers of POWs from large security risk groups.This is what we would EXPECT TO SEE given the holocaust narrative is FALSE and the Partisan explanation is CORRECT.What you're describing is NOT what we would expect to see if the holocaust had happened.We would have expected no further plans beyond kill on sight, which is by far the most efficient and least resource consuming method.>that's murderNo, it is at the absolute worst negligence.The Germans werent withholding food and medicine, they had none to give, their own people experienced starvation, malnutrition, and lack of medical care.Axis Europe was under siege and unable to feed even itself, why is it expected of them they must feed their POWs?This is not a reasonable expectation.lets look at American cases regarding abuse via malnutrition.In a famine, if a child dies of starvation or experiences malnutrition, is the parent at fault?no.The parent is only at fault if food is being deliberately withheld.This didnt happen in Germany therefore by OUR Standards of justice the Germans did not murder them.The Germans are not under a reasonable expectation to feed POWs over their own soldiers and people.Prove me wrong.
>>18122169>making their movement to escape Nazi rule moot.unless they moved again, like they did, which we know they did in large enough numbers even the British began putting them into concentration camps to uphold The Mandate's immigration policy.>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyprus_internment_camps
>>18122198>We dont have a reliable account>but I also know for certain what it coversYeah, you're not serious and are clearly just making shit up on the spot. Again, I posted a literal screen shot of the document, which we 100% have btw, and you're trying to gaslight yourself into saying it doesnt exist...while also claiming you know what it says lol
>>18122202>the average german jewish citizens should have accounted for all of Hitlers future invasions and not moved to those countries to escape his genocideThis is retarded anon.
>>18122196>its deliberateIts not, they arent under a reasonable expectation to feed POWs over their own people.Furthermore, this isnt a holocaust, this is not a deliberate targeted extermination campaign.It is POWs being taken from hostile populations largely engaged in partisan if not outright warfare against the Germans.What's the alternative? What should Germany have done? "War's over everyone go home"They tried, Britian said no.They had no other reasonable options but to continue suppressing the Poles who never laid down their arms, continue fighting the British and French Empires, and turn eastward to secure the oil, food, and metals necessary to actually defeat Britian in a no-talks total war.The Germans were already at war and the handling of POWs could not have gone any other way given the circumstances.
>>18122211>Its not,You already said that they knew they couldnt take care of those people before they imprisoned them. And they prepared crematoriums so they knew they would all would die. This is by definition deliberate.
>>18122211>What's the alternative? What should Germany have done?probably not genocide a bunch of jewish people while getting buttfucked on two fronts
>>18122204>I know for certainno one said this.Based on what (You) have posted, we know it wasnt planning a targeted extermination.You know this because my argument so unimpeachably correct you are now strawmanning me while looking for an out because you can not argue the facts."I am skeptical we have reliable information on Wannsee but if we assume what we have is true, here is what it means." where's the unseriousness?You engage entirely in bad faith.>saying it doesnt existquote me>>18122207>the largest war in human history isnt a good enough reason for nomadic jews to move twice in a decadelaughable.blame the French and British for not ending the war before it expanded.>Hitler would haveno. The war would have ended if Britain accepted Hitler's peace offer on Sept 2nd 1939.
>>18122224>its the jews, french, and englishs fault for the actions of germansZero accountability nigger mentality. Further proof that nazis are anti civilization freaks and so are their neo-nazi freak defenders
>>18122211>we don't have to give you food, it's okay if you starve damn, i didn't know that nazis were such psychopaths, now i'm happy that they lost war
>>18122217>that is by definition deliberateThat is not the definition of deliberate.Furthermore the Germans do not have a reasonable expectation to feed POWs over their own people - this is the core of my argument, one which you can not refute.This exonerates them, just like it exonerates in American courts today.>they knew they couldnt take care of POWs therefore they shouldnt take POWsis this what you're saying?>>18122219They didnt genocide a bunch of jewish people though.jews still lived in Germany by 1945.as the situation became desperate many Germans in Germany lamented that nothing had been done to the law following jews who remained whom they saw as taking delight in the harsher circumstances of Germany.You have to prove the Germans targeted jews specifically to murder them because they were jewish.You can not do this, therefore the charge of genocide is false.
There is literally nothing more obnoxious than yet ANOTHER unwanted holocauster thread.
>>18122227>Britain and France declare war on you>"THIS IS YOUR FAULT"????????????>puerile childish insultslol.your entire worldview is based on misinformation.>>18122231What is psychopathic about not having enough food?But you do know the Nazis DID have rations for their POWs right? it just wasnt enough.If they wanted to genocide them, why not, you know... actually genocide them?Right because it wasnt a genocide.You live in a historical fantasy based on misinformation and hearsay.
>>18122236So, since nazis didn't target Jews, why should we? I used to be very antisemitic but I'm not sure anymore, since I feel like Hitler would be sad about me hating Jews
>>18122236>That is not the definition of deliberate.see>>18122196You admitted yourself that the nazis were aware of the consequences of their actions, and they planed it out slowly and went through with it anyway. This is what deliberate (a word you specifically used) meansThe reality is that youre clearly just some dumb kid who feel for /pol/slop without ever actually thinking it through. Like you saw this shit once and just ran with it
>>18122244>britain and france declare war on Germany after they invaded PolandOk, so it still doesnt make sense why Germany felt the need to genocide jews because of this. zero accountability nigger scum.
>>18122244Curious how 99% of allied POW survived in German captivity if disease and starvation was unavoidable in the camps. Hmm
>>18122246>why should wewe arent?We shouldnt target anyone. We should have a fair and just society like what our countries used to be and what the Nazis tried to build.>hating jewswhy do you hate jews?its very simple, jews are not above the law, when the jews act as a criminal collective, they must dealt with as a criminal collective, when individual jews are good/bad, they dealt with as individuals who are good/bad.This is a very simple and easy to enact way of living.jews are not above German law, simple as.>>18122247>admittedwhat does this even mean? Admitted? as if it was being hidden?>they aware the consequences of their actionsNo, the consequences of the unavoidable war which they tried to end but extemporaneous circumstances would not permit them to end it.>they planned it slowlyThey planned it very quickly and very poorly actually, they had no actual plan going into it.If they had planned it slowly you'd see crematoriums being built in 1936.>this is what deliberate meansno, deliberate means consciously and intentionally.The Germans did not consciously and intentionally cause European jewry to wage an illegal war on them in the sticks of Eastern Europe.nor did they consciously and intentionally carry on WWII, it was at basically every point in the lead up, outbreak, and during, against the will of every Axis leader.>you're le dumbso you ran out of arguments.You didnt expect someone to come with a legal term like 'reasonable expectation' (You still havent addressed this btw) and now you feel stupid and need a 'way out' of this discourse.The Germans did recognized the circumstances of the war would lead to mass casualties among enemy combatants and most especially among high risk groups like Slavs and jews.They were not under a reasonable expectation to keep POWs in perfect health for an indeterminate time under extreme conditions that would necessarily come at the expense of themselves.This you can not contest.
>>18122273But they didnt? Dont you know that?Western POWs ALSO experienced starvation and malnutrition, they were however better fed when taken captive and were often taken captive later on which lead to lower attrition rates.But you didnt know this because you dont read.>>18122254They didnt genocide jews thobeit.If you feel they did, you should prove it with material evidence.
>>18122288>We shouldnt target anyoneAre you Jewish? I see a lot of slogans like that from (((them)))
>>18122294>Western POWs ALSO experienced starvationLol doesn't change the fact that 99% of allied POW survived German captivity you retard.The other camps had a 60-100% mortality rate. You say the Germans only had good intentions and that every death was uncontrollable starvation and disease, so it makes no fucking sense.
>>18122273>>18122294just an FYI, the British and Americans DID drop medicine and foodstuffs to the Red Cross in Axis Europe with the understanding it would go to THEIR POWs, and this did occur.No such phenomena existed in the east from the USSR or Poland.Furthermore, if it was specifically jews and slavs being targeted for their ethnicity, well, jews and slavs served in great number in the US and British forces respectively, they survived at the same rate other Western POWs did.This would not be possible if the holocaust were, it was possible, it happened, therefore the holocaust is in some part verifiably false.
he just resorted to typing off his fantasies now kek
>>18122305Jews were not even combatants, they were civilians retard. Why should enemy POW be prioritized against enemy POW?Also it was more than just jews being held that were German citizens.You said starvation and epidemic outbreak was the sole reason people died in camps and Germany couldn't stop it or control it, yet somehow one type of people 99% survive German camps while other types of people are apparently beyond saving to the point that it's a 100% mortality rate.
>>18122318>against enemy POW?Against your own civilians**
>>18122297No, White people rarely if ever enact collective punishment.Collective punishment is a jewish phenomena.The last White collective punishment was the Roman Empire.The last slavic collective punishment was in the 1990s against Caucasians.The last jewish collective punishment is occurring right now in the most well documented genocide in history - the holocaust of Gaza>>18122302>99% survivedno, not 99%. but yes higher numbers survived because they went into the camps much healthier and had access to medicine and food from their own countries which the Germans faithfully delivered via the Red Cross.>it makes no fucking senseIt does, you just dont want it to.The large number of deaths on the Eastern Front is attributable to the poor condition of the POWs going into the camps and the lack of any aid structures or support systems.Furthermore regarding foreign aid into Germany, these international institutions wouldnt allow anything to go to a particular camp but were only sent if a specific person could be identified.Eastern Europe had basically no pre-existing bureaucratic and civil infrastructure compared to America or Britain or France and so aid into Germany from the Red Cross abroad was heavily biased not only in favor of Western POWs but against Eastern POWs.This decision was made in the United States by Britain and the US btw.This is why the disparity in survival is so large.
>>18122316>In 1942, the ICRC confirmed the existence of a Jewish ghetto at Theresienstadt and discovered that it was possible to send medicines, emboldening them to try that strategy with other concentration camps.[9] Soon after, Roland Marti, the ICRC delegate in Berlin, requested permission for a trial visit to Theresienstadt, expecting that it would be easier to get permission than for other camps, but his request was denied.[12] The DRK claimed that there was sufficient food and supplies at Theresienstadt, and Red Cross parcels were therefore unnecessary.[13] In May 1943, the ICRC received confirmation signed by the Jewish elder at Theresienstadt that some food parcels had reached it.[14] The ICRC's efforts to send food parcels to concentration camps were hampered by the American Red Cross's refusal to lobby the Allies to allow an exemption in the blockade of Nazi Germany for food imports destined for concentration camps.[15] In order to avoid the parcels being siphoned off by the SS, the ICRC was only allowed to send them to named recipients.[16]kys
>>18122329>Theresienstadt served an important propaganda function for the Germans. The publicly stated purpose for the deportation of the Jews from Germany was their "resettlement to the east," where they would be compelled to perform forced labor. Since it seemed implausible that elderly Jews could be used for forced labor, the Nazis used the Theresienstadt ghetto to hide the nature of the deportations. In Nazi propaganda, Theresienstadt was cynically described as a "spa town" where elderly German Jews could "retire" in safety. The deportations to Theresienstadt were, however, part of the Nazi strategy of deception. The ghetto was in reality a collection center for deportations to ghettos and killing centers in Nazi-occupied eastern Europe.
>>18122326How healthy must a commonwealth soldier have to be compared to a French/Dutch/German civilian, where the soldier lives for 3 years in the camp but the Dutch person dies upon arrival?Also Soviet soldiers in 1941 were not malnourished and yet nearly all POW taken in 1941 died in German captivity.
>>18122326>let the Jew conspire and race mix with us to weaken our blood instead of getting rid of them! think about the poor jews!! are you Jewish?
>>18122318>jews were not even combatants>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_partisans>Soviet partisans arrived in the western Ukraine in 1943,[5] and consisted of Russians, Ukrainians, Poles, and Jews,[6] and were smaller in size than units in Belarus, which was more suitable for partisan warfare.[7] Released Soviet archive data suggest that Jews accounted for 5.2% of the partisans in Ukraine.[5]>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betarjewish paramilitary boasting 300,000 members in Europe.>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parczew_partisansjewish partisan group responsible for destroying railways, trains, train stations, and ambushing German logistical units.>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bielski_partisansjewish partisans consisting of an entire mobilized community including the very young and very old, male and female alike, murdered non-jewish Poles as often as they murdered Germans.They were also degenerate panty sniffers (based)>Some accounts note the inequality between well-off partisans and poor inhabitants of the camp.[7] According to one of Tuvia Bielski's cousins who lived in the camp, relayed to her daughter, women were forced to strip naked upon entry and give up their underwear as a form of "entry ticket".[7]>you said starvation and disease was the sole reasonNo, I never said they were the sole reasons, they were however the largest factors in whether someone lived or died in the east.Other factors such as collateral damage or execution were also present but less so.>one type of peoplewho? jews and Poles serving in the US and British armies survived at the same rate as their Western comrades.>its a 100% mortalityno camp had a 100% mortality rate, suspiciously.
>>18122339I like there is a primary source for the Red Cross statements but no primary source at all for "this was a killing center".someone with an IQ above 105 can still use wikipedia to refute the holocaust myth.>>18122343>French, Dutch, German civilianThe common theme here being these are all people living on a continent under siege in a nation blockaded and in a state of total war.The soldiers had more access to foreign aid and were healthier.Where were civilians dying upon arrival?>Soviet soldiers in 1941 were not malnourishedThe ones encircled for months during Barbarossa were malnourished when they finally surrendered yes.>nearly allnot even close.>>18122350Who are you quoting?
>>18122363>Who are you quoting?https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler
>>18122343The Red Cross in the USSR was also far far less likely to send anything past German lines while British and American POWs could even send and receive to family at home such was the liberality of the Red Cross and The German POWs system with CIVILIZED nations.literally the lack of charity and humanity among jews and slavs is the primary reason they died in German captivity.As the Western Red Cross proves, the Germans were more than happy to comply with Humanitarian aid efforts even for jews and slavs such as those serving in Western uniforms.
>>18122368Hitler and I agree, we should not mix with jews.Where does this lead to the holocaust?>OH NO RACE MIXING IS ILLEGAL ITS ANUDDAH SHOAHHitler was preventing the 'silent holocaust' :)
>>18122351>jewish partisan group responsible for destroying railways, trains, train stations, and ambushing German logistical units.based Jews slaughtering nazi subhumans, everyone unites aganist the evil https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HC7_qPCflnYThe Warsaw Ghetto Uprising was more kino tho
>>18122375How do you prevent race mixing withotu deporting/killing undesirables?
>>18122363Bullshit. French and Dutch population were not malnourished when Germany began rounding up jews around W.Europe so your argument about nourishment as an ad hoc argument to explain 3 years of allied POW survivability versus a few days for a civilian is bullshit.And yes, many died on arrival because they weren't cared for when transported, and children and elderly were also killed immediately. You usually subscribe this is typhoid epidemics which also somehow did not plague allied camps. It's also curious how allied survivability was high in Japan despite not receiving any aid from the red cross. It wasn't 99% but it was around 75%, which should reflect how normal survivability looks like even if you're deprived of emergency food and medicine.By your logic their mortality rate should have been as high as Soviets and jews and all other undesired citizens.
>>18122386>only modes of existence are genocide or interracialI am thinking (You) are the jew.>>18122380>yeah kill'emgrow up.
>>18122422The French and Dutch populations WERE experiencing food shortages.>ad-hocits not ad-hoc, Heinz Guderian made this "argument" in 1941 describing the problems Germany was already facing given that the war was only expanding.>3 years of allied POW survivabilityWhere are you getting this number?mainly American and British captures were in 43 and 44 with a plurality being from their Aerial forces.>they needed urgent care for a days long train ridesource?>children and elderly were killed immediatelysource?>somehow did not plague allied campsThey did.I already told you, the openness of the Red Cross in Western nations directly contributed to lowering the mortality rate immensely.Allied survival in Japan was abysmal.Was Japan targeting Americans for death? no. Was Japan planning on murdering all Americans or all Americans in captivity? No.Japan had roughly 20-25k American POWs, of that about 10k died.Japan DID receive Red Cross aid btw.>The situation of Jews, who served in various armies, was particularly difficult because of The Holocaust. However, while Jews were mistreated by the Germans more than non-Jews, their fates were generally tied to the nations and armies they belonged to. Non-officer Jews released into general populace often perished together with the civilians; however most Jews who served in the armies of the Western Allies, as well as the Jewish officers in the Polish Army, suffered only minor discrimination.[1]:297–303Even wikipedia agrees with me.
>>18122423Something wrong with killing people that invaded and occupy your country?
>>18122423so... how do you prevent race mixing without deporting/killing undesirables?
>>18122477Yes, its illegal and removes your rights under the Geneva Convention.Wars will be fought in uniform by soldiers, not by ununiformed civilians.>>18122480the same way women prevent mixing with incels.
Guys, I'm starting to suspect that Hitler may have been a nazi...
>>18122539nazis are criminal organisation, since when criminals are protected by Geneva Convention? The Invasion of Poland commenced without declaration of war so it wasn't really a war, it was a bandit attack
>>18122542proof? eveidence source? video tape of hitler admiting being a nazi from a non-jewish pro nazi source?
>>18122546>Nazis are a criminal organizationshow me the court which convicted them in 1939 of being criminals.>commenced without declaration1, It had a declaration, Hitler announced it and the Poles has already begun their war with Danzig (which Poland to this day never declared) before the first German round crossed into Polish territory.2, This is not a crime.
>>18122583convicting criminal doesn't mean that he wasn't a criminal before? it's the crime that matters>It had a declarationpost a German Declaration of War aganist Poland before 1 September?
>>18122594>a criminal is a criminal retroactively before they committed any crimes???????????????????The Germans werent at war with Poland prior to September 1st.
>>18122845>The Germans werent at war with Poland prior to September 1st.when did nazis declare war at Poland?If they didn't then there was not war and no war law was in power, unless you only want to pick those laws that suits the nazi thugs at that moment
>>18120277This question makes Hitler out to be a totally retarded dictator.Either Hitler was le based murderer of le jews or he was a wimpy retard who everyone manipulated and lied to.
>>18122075Did Harry Truman know about Germ Warfare in Korea?
>>18122583>Poles has already begun their war with Danzig (which Poland to this day never declared)lmao
>>18120277No, he was a good lad
>>18120277Someone as autistic as Hitler knew just about everything happening in Germany all the time. He would've been keenly aware about the near exact number of jews and where they were and what they were doing and typically as things became more grim he obviously wanted them in camps. As he knew his cities were getting incinerated he knew at the same time he was now also burning jews in ovens and im pretty sure even talked about it being a fair trade off pretty much, that if the allies were gonna obliterate his cities and their inhabitants he was just gonna start murdering all the cozy camp inmates who were "free" from dangerSo yea of course he knew about it lmao he hated jews. His top priority as he knew the curtains were falling would be "kill as many of my enemies as possible before I die" obviously this is literally Hitler.
>>18120277He'd said that if the Jews start the war (which meant that if anybody joins the war started by him) then the Jews will die. He not only knew about it, he ordered and supervised it.
>>18123944Btw, his blackmail "or I will kill the Jews!" might have been effective IF the Jews were the decision makers in western countries. But they weren't, so it was an empty threat, kek
>>18123951at some point nazis seem to believe their own propaganda that jooz rule over the world and were thinking about using jews as hostages to get peace/help aganist Sovietsof course, real world is not Hitler's fantasies so UK and USA didn't really care
>>18123944>he ordered itShow us the order.>>18123951Jews WERE decision makers in foreign politics. France was literally run by a Jew lol.British jews were doing the same thing they are today.We now know the Blair Foundation is a front for Ellison to the point where Blair’s staff said they were inextricable from Ellison and had to be personally approved by him before being onboarded.Blair holds no office yet is the most influential figure in British politics. Starmer has never once ever deviated from a Blairite position.We see the same relationship with Untermeyer and Churchill.Explain to me why we shouldn’t believe what we see?Why shouldn’t we believe what we can see today?>>18123993this is just absolute nonsense.Google how the sixth Rebbe escaped the Lithuanian SSR.
>>18120277No evidence he did.The best there is is Hitler having read a report of 300,000 partisan Jews being killed in Eastern Europe or something.The main reason for this is is because it didn't happen, but that's a separate discussion.
>>18124089Holocaust is the most documented genocide in history
>>18124092uh huh :) of course it iscode words and extraordinary eye witness testimony
>>18124095yup, Holocaust ( the murder of six million Jews by nazis) is the most documented genocide in history
>>18124089This."Hitler knew about the Holocaust" is a myth
>>18124105I heard it was Poles who pressured Himmler into murdering Jews and he reluctantly cave in to themHitler would not kill Jews, his own mother was Jewish, would he gas her too??
>>18124092>>18124103So where are all the documents?the holocaust is a myth based on hearsay and speculation.There is no material evidence
>>18120616Very good.
>>18124227google some books about holocaust or baka
>>18124293Why don't you read Hilberg's destruction of the European Jews I'm sure you'll find plenty there. Surely it exists!
>>18124293Why didn't YOU google them?Mhhhh?
>>18120277Pretty sure he knew there've been a lot of Jews and other undesirables getting wiped out, though he most likely didn't know mich about the specifics, like the masturbation devices, etc.
>>18120277If Hitler didn't know about it, then he's dumber than Nazis give him credit forhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bibliography_of_the_Holocaust#Primary_sources
>>18120533>and censorship of the Holocaust in the rest of the worldyou said it, obvious ragebait
>>18120277Is it possible to know about a non-existent event?
