You will never find love.

I find holocaust denial to be highly retarded, the holocaust was by the far the most impressive thing the third reich did, and you just wanna take that away from them.

>>18120307
So one group of white people murder 6 million of your people(after hundreds of years of anti-semeitism) and another group of people defeat them and your supposed to make statues of white people in general and worship them? This makes sense to you. I'd say they were at best even. The truth is the The Nazis killed basically all the Jews they had access to.

Or to put it another way replace "Jews" with white people and white people with "blacks" you'll ge your answer.

Also just to briefly humor the 'argument' just because a people are seemingly ungrateful does not mean it is morally correct to murder them on an industrial scale

>>18120346
>The truth is the The Nazis killed basically all the Jews they had access to.
How do the Jews still exist?

>>18120353
Based retard with 0 object permanence or deduction skills

>>18120353
Are you daft? The yahtzees obviously did not have access to all Jews in existence.

>>18120346
>anti-Semitism
Nobody is obligated to entertain your biased anti-European framing of the context where the underlying assumption is that Europeans are always wrong and driven by malicious motivations. It is also possible view the situation as counter-Semitic and as two factions engaged in mutual warfare.

>>18120376
>your biased anti-European framing of the context where the underlying assumption is that Europeans are always wrong and driven by malicious motivations
I said none of that.

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>>18120325
Indeed.

>there are no statues of Allied soldiers in Israel
Ok
>no be a Nazi!
No.

>>18120353
>they had access to
Stormtranny reading comprehension.

>>18120320
Thats okay thats why I have ropes and chains in my basement.

>>18120307
I think they're just psychologically predisposed to that because of inbreeding.

>>18121865
>Stormtranny
YWNBAW

>>18120307
There's a big monument in Israel to the "righteous among the nations" - basically goyim who tried to stop the Holocaust and rescued Jews and such, often at great personal risk

>>18120307
The statement "they should be more grateful yada yada" isn't actually based on anything. Its feelings presented as a link in a chain of logic.

>>18120307
When did a holocaust survivor jew EVER voice open contempt for any of the allied nations or their service members?

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>>18121918
Here's your big monument bro.

>>18120325
You assume everyone would rather push a convenient lie rather than the inconvenient truth.
Luckily for society some people aren't like that.

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>>18122100
I don't see what that has to do with holocaust denial exactly, but nevertheless that is actually what I have observed every single time as the truth. As in, the vast majority of people would push a convenient lie rather than the inconvenient truth. See picrel. In fact I would go so far as to say society itself is a convenient lie

>>18122432
>I don't see what that has to do with holocaust denial exactly
You say holocaust denialism is retarded because it strips nazism of its one accomplishment, but that assumes deniers actually care about the third reich.
Also
>See picrel
you will rarely know for sure who is in denial and who is knowingly lying to you, so don't be too sure about the ratio between the two.

>>18120307
The Holocaust happened and Israel is evil.

>>18122470
>its one accomplishment
They had many accomplishments. The V2 rocket was the first manmade object sent to space, for example. I just personally think it was arguably its most impressive.
>that assumes deniers actually care about the third reich
Who benefits from holocaust denialism other than nazis?
>rarely know for sure who is in denial and who is knowingly lying to you
True, but often this is something that is possible to find out.

>>18120307
80IQ amerimutts neonazis did greater damage to hitler than Holocaust, this pic proves it

>>18122499
>They had many accomplishments. The V2 rocket was the first manmade object sent to space, for example. I just personally think it was arguably its most impressive.
What is so impressive about killing a few millions in such an inefficient manner? I honestly don't see how people can look at the holocaust and find it any worse than armenia or cambodia.
Even muh industrialized slaughter is such pathetic propaganda, as if extremely deadly labor camps were a nazi invention rather than a historical universal.
>Who benefits from holocaust denialism other than nazis?
Everyone who doesn't like jews (far larger group than just nazis) and every non jewish westerners, even non whites.
Hell, you could argue that well meaning jews also gain from the disappearance of holocaust mediatic pressure, considering nowadays its perception is at best mixed and more like strongly negative.
But I repeat, some people actually just want the truth on the matter, regardless of who gains from it.
Lies make for unstable foundations to build knowledge upon, is it so unthinkable that people might want to remove them from their worldviews?

>>18120325
No one accused Germans of being a serious people actually. They are terrific in small numbers; terrible in large droves.

>>18120325
Race known for high levels of autism and efficiency. Find the most retarded and ridiculous ways to kill people, like masturbation machines and cartoon shotguns. Yeah something is off.

>>18122486
The holocaust happened and israel is proof of why it happened

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Notice none of the kikes in this thread actually address the first issue. Why are jews so disdainful towards their liberators? They have turned western europe, the nations who saved them from death, into ghetto slums as thanks for their saving. The more I, as an american, see what jews have done to my country, the less I really care about whether the holocaust actually happened or not. Their vile character lends me to believe that it did, and that they deserved it

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>>18122595
>What is so impressive
>inefficient
It was very efficient, that is part of what makes it so impressive.
> any worse than armenia or cambodia.
Death toll was twice as much as both of these combined.
> industrialized slaughter
>deadly labor camps
The part that i find interesting and impressive isn't just the deadly slave labor camps, even though the nazis took the concept to never before seen heights. The unique and trailblazing nature of its industrialization of slaughter itself is what i find interesting, as in the logistics of killing. While most people during the armenian or cambodian genocide died to starvation, exposure/forced marching, disease, and forced labor, during the holocaust at least a million were killed through carbon monoxide or hydrogen cyanide, which marked a developmental point in human ingenuity I would argue was part of the chain of developments, including other industrial processes like the assembly line, and scientific breakthroughs like mass production of artificial fertilizers and pesticides, leading directly towards to the utterly insane modern industrial animal agriculture. see picrel. “In their behavior toward creatures, all men are Nazis." -Isaac Singer

>>18122668
>They have turned western europe, the nations who saved them from death, into ghetto slums as thanks for their saving
Nope, European governments did that.

>>18122678
>It was very efficient
Efficient would have been to round them up town by town and executing them on the spot.
Taking them to a distant labor camp to wait uncertain amounts of time before being shipped to yet another camp where they'd be killed is just a massive waste of resources. Just how much manpower did they even contribute to the war effort in practice? Fuck all?
Even if you want to make the point keeping it all secret, just putting them all on the train and gassing them in there would have been enough. Could have even used the train's exhaust, then dropped the bodies off at the camp for disposal.
Hell, why even bother with cremation? Just burn the bodies to the point where they won't promote sickness and leave the rest in a pile, you can keep secrecy by just building a guarded perimeter around it.
That's without considering all the fucking around before the final solution, with planned deportations and all that shit.
What the fuck could the naval blockade possibly have done to stop plan madagascar? Just send the jews out to the allied ships and they're out of your hair. Do you even care that they don't actually reach your planned destination if they're gone?
The whole thing is so nonsensical nobody should be blamed for doubting it.

>Death toll was twice as much as both of these combined.
Armenia was 1-3m while Cambodia was 1.2-2.8m.
However Cambodia was a far smaller and less industrialized country killing its own people as much as local minorities, making the successful effort FAR more impressive in a means vs results comparison.

>>18122681
European governments with overwhelming jewish representation. Jews make up about 10-20 percent of the american senate going back several decades. Jews are obly 1 percent of the us population. Why are they overrepresented to a degree of 100 percent over what they should be represented by? No pther ethnic or religious group is treated this way. Buddhists make up about 1 percent of the population and get about 1 percent of the senate. Catholcs are about 30 percent, they get about 30 percent. Protties are about 50 percent, they get about 50 percent. But then jews for some reason get ten times their alotted representaton. Why?

>>18122678
>While most people during the armenian or cambodian genocide died to starvation, exposure/forced marching, disease, and forced labor, during the holocaust at least a million were killed through carbon monoxide or hydrogen cyanide
It's funny that what you find impressive is what I find inefficient: why waste resources with muh industrialized slaughter when the exact same results were easily achievable using caveman tier means?

>>18122715
I guess people prefer to vote on jews over a meth junkies subhuman neonazis

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>>18122712
>round them up town by town and executing them on the spot.
Yes there was a lot of this happening too.
>Just how much manpower did they even contribute to the war effort in practice?
A lot. The Auschwitz IG Farben Gmbh slave factory was extremely profitable just for one example.
>Could have even used the train's exhaust, then dropped the bodies off at the camp for disposal.
There was a lot of this, too. Notice how i said carbon monoxide (train exhaust) and hydrogen cyanide.
>Just burn the bodies to the point where they won't promote sickness and leave the rest in a pile
There was probably a lot of this too.
>That's without considering all the fucking around before the final solution, with planned deportations and all that shit.
It wasn't just planned, there was a lot of deportation too.
>The whole thing is so nonsensical nobody should be blamed for doubting it.
Doubting it is fine. Ignoring evidence is another thing
>Cambodia was a far smaller and less industrialized country killing its own people as much as local minorities, making the successful effort FAR more impressive in a means vs results comparison.
Admittedly i don't know much about the cambodian genocide, if you have any resources to learn more i would appreciate it. I do appreciate (learning about) a good genocide.
>>18122726
>why waste resources with muh industrialized slaughter when the exact same results were easily achievable using caveman tier means?
Well most of the killing in the holocaust was indeed done with caveman tier means. The goal was no more jews anywhere in europe and the resources in the form of land for camps, hydrogen cyanide AKA zyklon B, etc. was allocated and considered worthwhile to spend for this task. So, in terms of amount of jews killed in a certain amount of time (also with an added factor of least amount of psychological toll taken on the people doing the killing- pressing a button to release gas is easier than shooting someone), then it was very efficient.

>>18122747
Ill accept your nonanswer as an admission of defeat

>>18120346
Minorities are vindictive, petty, ungrateful. Give them a bit of power and they become tyrants. They mistake kindness and honourability with weakness and seize it. They want diversity only to act like tribal, nepotistic groups.

Give them nothing.

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>>18121918
>"righteous among the nations"

Implying they're an exception.

>>18122779
>why there are jews in a democratic govorment where people are voted into power
uhh, i just told you? they were voted into power, is that too complicated for your meth ruined subuhman brain? and you wonder why everyone despsies you

>>18123178
Not how a representational government works kike. Unequal representation is how this country was founded but pleasez continue to further provoke the american people until they throw you into the boston river too

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>>18123210
why nobody wants to vote for your representation?

>>18123228
'Le right wingers dont get elected!!' Still doesnt account for a ten times increase in representation

>>18123292
Center-right and far-right are distinct. Some more authoritarian some more libertarian. Then you have to factor in foreign policy. We're not a hivemind.

>>18123299
And how much does the far right account for, less than 1 percent? So where is the other 9 percent that jews magically pull out of their ass?

>>18123292
>doesn't know how voting works
yeah, i rather vote for jews than for a retard like you, you deserve to be at the bottom of society

>>18123319
Yet retards like me , and you, dont account for jews getting ten to twenty times their due representation. We used to lynch people over this, and youre next, kike

>>18123351
>impotent online rage
yawn