Thoughts on Samhain?
They're a bit overused
>>18121071I've just about had it with any and all forms of paganism and catholicism thanks to the spam on this board.
>>18121071Harry Potter is real. Harry Potter celebrated Halloween. Halloween is Samhain. Samhain is real.
>>18121071https://youtu.be/S0aZaeF7odg?si=mM3bGx7_TEIWdORQ
>>18121370weird honestly. I've seen fewer pagan/druid/etc and Catholic threads than I have Prostatant threads, and the latter are far more obnoxious
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>>18121071More of a Celtic thing, and I'm from a Germanic culture, so most of this seems a bit strange. Also, many people in my country complain about Halloween as a kind of cultural colonialism, in the same way that Christmas has been fully Americanized. Then again, I wonder if this will ever stream into the other direction, with Americans complaining that parts of their culture are being Europeanized
>>18121071just yesterday I was thinking about this.there's a few celtic myths and ancient population replacements that make me wonder.on one had we have the ancient aryan migration to western europe, which replaced the previous population almost completely, at least on the y-dna side.on the other hand we have the celtic myth of "the people that went to live underground", this could be an ancestral memory of the event.or it could just be one defeated linage of celtic rulers as well, who knowsthe thing is I see samhain as the day the dead spirits come to take revenge, and this makes me wonder are these the dead spirits of the old ancient defeated bloodlines?is nice to ponder>>18121074just today I dreamed of WH, some kind of holy book that was also a volter or similar somehow, and a nicely emperorly decorated old building, I don't remember much else
>>18124484>>18123947There's nothing """celtic""" about it
>>18124485>Samhain is believed to have Celtic pagan origins, and some Neolithic passage tombs in Great Britain and Ireland are aligned with the sunrise at the time of Samhain.weird
>>18124497>neolithic tombs built before the celts ever existed in central europe are """celtic"""spastic
>>18121071it makes faggots seethe, so it's great
>>18124485>>18124698Because it specifically relates to the English harvest and astronomical situation. Christianity adopted this Calendar through Bede's De temporum ratione. It's just how the sky in England naturally works to the trained mind. The idea of a dying rising sun is obviously across cultures because it is experienced by the changes of seasons.
>>18124766Thank you Anglicana for Bede
>>18124766I wonder what was the celts and more specifically the druids stance with megalithic constructions, they probably understood them and venerated them
>>18124838They didn't seem to maintain them. But I am sure they made the same astrological observations.>>18124778He's kind of like Augustine in how even if you hate Christianity, he absolutely made a positive difference in western thought.
>>18124848>But I am sure they made the same astrological observations.I remember watching a documentary once about celts and druids, it stated that they buitl some kind of circular home-like constructions without a roof, just to lay there and observe the sky, pretty suck
>>18124860Yeah Chinese did the same thing. It is how you do a calendar. But wood is better than stone and easier to make more precise.
>>18124865have you seen the Coligny calendar? Moon calendar was pretty cool
>>18124881Yeah it's super cool. You ever notice how Caesar mentions in his Gaulic wars that the Gauls had writing and census and stuff? Like they were clearly a fairly advanced civilization, as were the Iberians and the southern Britons, while the Germans were utterly savage. Completely explains the magical seeming boundaries of the Roman empire, as they didn't colonize so much as annex and integrate existing civilizations.
>>18124899I've seen surgery tools that the druids had, they seem similar to greek ones, I don't know the definition of civilization, and celts did indeed build cities, towns, etc. I'm more comfortable calling them a culture, and the bits that reached our time about them they really attract me, I fucking wish I could take a time machine and witness all of it
