Is American Christianity just a cultural/nationalist signifier? I.e. modern day State Shinto?
Shintoists don't pray to or worship politicians and social media influencers unlike Christian Americans.State Shinto was mostly confined to the Emperor, not even all of the royal family
Yes, considering more and more people don't care about doctrines and shop for Churches that confirm their pre-existing views. You can see the same people worshiping Trump or Israel, the two most anti-Christian entities in US politics, because these people doesn't care about christianity, they only care about manifesting their lifesyle choices.It's pure postmodern.
>>18122496When you translate it to modern day, it is basically Shintoism, then.>>18122500So yeah, basically American Christianity is an ideological movement.Not that European Catholicism is doing much better. It ranges from non-existent, to fashion, to gay priests, to philosophical autoeroticism. Pretty much South America and parts of Africa are the only places I'd actually call truly religious.
>>18122455Yawn
>>18122455Not necessarily. A lot of its a reaction to European secularism which is understandable >>18122500Going by that, would you say secularism has its own lifestyle choices like frequenting glory holes and taking vaccines like they're going out of style?
>>18122509The idea of America being a Christian nation is neither true nor false. Its complicated. Most believed the Bible was the inerrant word of God, but were functionally deists. So while America was founded on Christian principles it was filtered through Deism, creating a founding principle in theory but not in practice.
>>18122455It's just the embodiment of postmodernism. That's why they criticize modernism so much. American Christianity is to Christianity as gender choice theory is to biological conceptions of there being two sexes. It utterly subverts the meaning of it to the point the words merely became names for aesthetics rather than descriptions of something essential to the nature of what is being described.
>>18122541>Going by that, would you say secularism has its own lifestyle choices like frequenting glory holes and taking vaccines like they're going out of style?No because that would be a pants-on-head retarded thing to say.
>>18122455Who's deluded enough to pretend it's the opposite?
>>18122547>The idea of America being a Christian nation is neither true nor false. Its complicated. Most believed the Bible was the inerrant word of God, but were functionally deists. So while America was founded on Christian principles it was filtered through Deism, creating a founding principle in theory but not in practice.Yes, it was founded by Christians and deists to be a secular nation. They can’t divorce themselves from the religious traditions they were raised in, but they certainly tried.
>>18122509>quote-mining .0001% of the populationYawn
>>18123009Regardless i baited you good.
>>18123342Got you to respond to me :)
>>18122455I don't think a cultural nationalist signifier could place another nation at its center
>>18123547They have a trinity of cuck fixations. Israel. Billionaires. Black Athletes.
>>18122509Cherrypicking. Check john quincy adams. Or even just the average American in the 18th century
>>18122509The US was de facto a Christian nation by virtue of its population being overwhelmingly Christian. The founders of the US were an intellectual elite who didn't represent the average .an (e.g. can you imagine the common Cletus being a trilingual Francophile intellectual like Jefferson?)
>>18122541>secularism is le... vaccinations???Americans can't be for real man, what the fuck has led your culture down this retarded Black Hole? Please don't tell me you think not taking vaccines is 'Traditional Based Crusader Catholicism' or some other variant of Yank insanity
>>18122455Protestantism expressly took root as an instrumentalized form of Christianity to meet the interests of various statesmen. American Protestantism is especially perverted because its ruling class from the beginning was a band of oligarchs and not any aristocracy with an ancient pedigree. Of course, only the mainstream examples count here, those backed by the money power, since religion in modern America is mainly relegated to the closet unless it can serve some political or financial agenda.
>>18123577This is the pos->NIVThose flames just got hotter.
>>18122455Mormonism absolutely is.
>>18122509a good deal of post 30 years war european discourse was the avoidance of bringing up much of religion due to it being associated with the horrible savagery of the war. It was a trend that died after their generation, but they still had beliefs rooted in christendom.
>>18123577I mean you can look at the root of it all, Anglicanism, which is basically the English King going 'yeah Jesus is whatever I say he is'.
>>18123577Yeah because Catholicism, where the Vatican is the world's most expensive tourist trap and has prayer spaces for muslims, is much better.
>>18123016christians
>>18124062It's beyond stupid that they unironically think almost everyone is atheist and that's why the world sucks. Atheism is still very niche, despite being more popular than it use to be because of the internet.