I hate LARPagans so much bros. They refuse to acknowledge that the Pagan faiths were simply a teleological precursor for the coming real European faith.
>>18122953Less of a LARP than going Orthodox.
>>18122953yeah now we have larping christians
>>18122963Enough about Gafcon.
>>18122963>>18122963Note that the original author did not mention Christianity. It is important to dissociate Christianity from paganism.Although I am an atheist, it is clear that the "resurgence" of paganism seems to be based more on aesthetics than anything else. There is no solid academic basis behind it, apparently the gentleman in the OP's photo wins courses, right?Even figures like Richard Dawkins have discussed how religion is more complex than people usually admit, and paganism seems to fail on several parameters. It's like trying to be an architect based only on fragmented data left by others - a lot is missing.
>>18122953What a horribly ugly t-shirt!My opinion is similar to this guy's>>18122998 there's no way to take it very seriously because it's not possible to be "pagan" in 2025, and there's no real search for the transcendental among these peoples, I doubt how many of them truly believe this. The classical pagans believed so strongly in their myths that we have records of the Germanic peoples killing people for falsely speaking for the gods, or armies moving thousands of kilometers simply because an oracle said they dreamed they would win. I don't see such faith within these kids on the internet. I see a correlation with the person being a haploautistic, and there are many, many, many poopers in the "pagan" masses of the internet cursing the bogeyman Christianity every day instead of talking about their faith system itself, showing that there's not much seriousness here.
>>18122998>There is no solid academic basis behind it, apparently the gentleman in the OP's photo wins courses, right?People said the course isn't academic and the sources used are from independent books, so you can already see how good this course is. Some people say it's too expensive. I followed it only for historical reasons but talking about Christianity whenever he had opportunity makes me nauseous His community is quite fragile
I hate christcucks so much bros. They refuse to aclnowledge that christianity is just european paganism with semitic theology
>>18123020>>18122998Christiancucks are lying, he didn't produce any "course".
>>18123052I'm not religious, not at all. But as far as I know, he does sell courses.
>>18123052Your little guru isn't as majestic as his gay fans make him out to be.
>>18122998>Even figures like Richard Dawkins have discussed how religion is more complex than people usually admit,It's not complex. Christians actually believe Jesus died on the cross and rose again. """Pagans""" do not believe in Odin. OrthoLVRP fags do not believe in God. Richard Dawkins is going to burn in Hell, forever.
>>18123063Tom is a certified historian, you clown, you didn't refute anything here, just ad hominem attacks. Christians are such petty people it's surreal.
>>18123072Hell is real and you are going to her abode first, Christian. Dont say her name so lightly
>>18123072>It's not complexWhy do you have to be so picky? I'm not concerned with Christianity, paganism, or any theological "ism." What I'm saying is that you're reducing the formation of a religion and its importance, for good or ill, to culture. That's the point, and I don't think Christianity is reducible to just that. Personally, I have the honesty to say that, while I don't believe Christianity has value, I can't deny that I am "Christianized" in cultural and ethnic terms. Of course, if I had been born in the East, I would follow Buddhist or Hindu morals, but since I'm in the West, culture has educated me to be "culturally Christian."
>>18123088>>18122998You're one of those atheists who prove that "Reddit atheism" isn't really defining but a modern, gay, and politicized invention. You have my respect
>>18123020Tommy in picrel is, just as many before, spiritual, not religious. I think it's understandable to derive some aesthetic, national joy from embracing one's ancestral faith, but as you said, it isn't a religion, that demands some obligation, some sacrifice to be made, neopaganism has no meat on its bones.I'm with Spengler on this one, the west's second religiousness will be about the worship of man's will to power, maybe we'll make religion out of transhumanism, it would be interesting if nothing else.
>>18122998Damn, e-pagans are so cringeworthy that even literal atheists know how pathetic and fake they are, lol.
>>18123082Those flames just got hotter.>>18123088>while I don't believe Christianity has value,Translation: I hate God. Enjoy Hell.
>>18123020>I doubt how many of them truly believe this.They don't really believe it.>>18123063If I buy it, will Thor aka indra, answer me?
>>18123096So this is not paganism by any means, and we can see that he has semantic problems with the meaning of the terms he uses.>SpenglerIf this meant treating secularism as some kind of deity, then yes, he hit the nail on the head. If humanism has failed miserably, its spiritual successor has little guarantee of success
>>18122953>Pagan faiths were simply a teleological precursor for the coming real European faithOne day e-christians claim that pagans worship demons. The other day they claim the main deity of the pagans is actually the abrahamic God and their religions were just prescursors of christianity like you do. Different strategies for the same purpose to proselitze. I'm not a christian or a pagan but the behavior on e-christian is really disgusting ans embarassing. You behave like a cult, like the worst versions of communists. You are extremely totalitarian. The internet version of christian is very similar to muslims on both the internet and in real life. You can't even unite among themselves. Sectarian conflicts that were supposed to be solved centuries ago is coming back again and again to hunt everything you e-christians try to achieve. I'm more sympathetic towards the pagans because of that at least not the leftist ones.
>>18123109I think you worship a demonic entity the way you sound like. Maybe yahweh is really a desert demon, maybe he is really Seth?
>>18123134Enjoy burning.
>>18123128>>18123128>If humanism has failed miserably, its spiritual successor has little guarantee of successThe problem with secularism has, and always will be, the fact that it is christian morality without God as its source, it's a negation which cannot exist without the original. That has indeed failed.What we will see will be a true resurrection of old, germanic, faustian pagan morality, but using new forms, like i said, probably some transhumanist stuff about maximising one's potential.
>>18123140Dont go down the donkeypill rabbithole christanons. You wont like what you find
>>18123218Flames. Hotter.
>>18123237Have fun getting raped by donkey demons in the afterlife. I shall enjoy the plains of elysia
>>18123265Keep stoking those flames, faggot. God hates you. :)
>>18122953As a Christian I don't actually hate them that much, but boy do they seem to hate me a fuckload.
>>18123276God loves me. Theres only one true God afterall. You worship yahweh, a semitic baalam, not God
>>18123285>God loves me.I'm going to laugh as I tune into your suffering from the comforts of the New Jerusalem. You are such a pathetic specimen. You deserve every bit of pain Hell has in store for you. :)
>>18123278it's not you anon, it's the obvious shill psyops on 4chins, tiresome, for whatever reason there was an insane push for christianity in 4chan in the previous years, and it was everything but organic, I don't hate christians, but believe that I hate christian shills with a pasion. I'm not even pagan, but I love european ancestral religion for one
>>18123291Your idea of hell being hot is directly ibfluenced by pagan ideas of muspelheim and tartarus btw. You are a germano-roman pagan in denial pretending you are a semite
>>18123296Keep going. Get that furnace white hot, rat. This is great!
>>18123311Ezekiel ate bread baked with human feces and isaiah prophecised that jews will own your homes and your kids
>>18123314You're so fucked. :)
>>18122953>muh larpYou believe in a goy-inclusive reformed judaism.
>>18122998Orthodox is more cringe than Wicca.
Would you rather have a gay son or an Orthodox son?
>>18122953They are like jews blinded to the messiah.
>>18122957/thread
>>18123534An abortion
>>18122998>It is important to dissociate Christianity from paganism.None of these people, from Nietzsche onwards, have a pagan orientation that goes beyond inverting Christianity. This is why it doesn't feel authentic. It's a worldly ideology, and if you're window shopping for a religious aesthetic to fit that, what else can you pick? That's when you read the remaining sources, pick out the flattering parts, and start selling merch. This is also why the right wing pagans don't want to even acknowledge left wing paganism (which is much bigger and organized). It's a very unpleasant mirror to face.
>>18124144>left wing paganism (which is much bigger and organized)You mean the Aztec nationalists who claim that America is rightfully Mexican soil?
>>18122953>a teleological precursorHahaha holy shit the absolute state of tradlarpers I don't even know anymore holy fuck
All religions are fake and gay but humans require ritual to function socially. As such you might as well pick whatever has the best aesthetics. This is also my opinion on government.
It beats reviewing sneakers.
>ur faith is a larp because there's more of Christians than pagans xdYa, but the cool kids are on my faith, not yours, not paganism
I'm quite happy being an atheist but if you want to force me to choose a religion I'm not choosing a jewish one. I'll either larp as a Eurogrug or do nothing, your choice Christcucks.
>>18124144>left wing paganism which is bigger and more organizedMore organized? Those gay hippies dont have shit, we have 5 hofs so far. I dont think you wanna be talking about unpleasant mirrors to face, christian. And I agree that many pagans take an overly antichristian take when they should just not give a fuck about you, but you cant really blame them considering christianity bases itself on antipaganism. Its like being a muslim immigrant and moving to a catholic country, pushing over a statue of the virgin mary, and then wondering why catholics all hate you. Dont play little jewish games like that
>>18124499>considering christianity bases itself on antipaganismStick to the script. You're not intelligent enough to deviate. You people have been claiming that all the good parts of Christian civilization is actually le secretly pagan.>this priest says IMMIGRATION IS GOOD, become pagan!I guess that's all it took to recruit you, proving literally all that I've said.
>>18122953graphic tees don't work with beard and sunglasses
>>18124451No, don't be a run of the mill atheist, you have options, which you can do for the keks. Exhibit 1: Atheist Wizard (chaos magick).
>>18124532Exhibit 2: Urban glorious nippon legend believer, stacks with exhibit 1
>>18124535Exhibit 3: Power Metal is real and tells us tales of distant galaxies
>>18124541Exhibit 4: just shoot the fucking Christian, we know it's what you would have wanted.
>>18124549Exhibit 5 (this is a real world religion, not a jest).Horror Gnosticism: you could have It/Pennywise worshipped as your own consciousness
>>18124552 (Last)Another real world religion which is also fun to practice and that its atheist frenly. Left Hand Path/ Infernal Gnosticism, the idea that gnosis bestows Demon Godhood, where you treat every deity you worship as your conscious mind so as to transform it.Final Words: atheism has its usefulness, but having a belief where you're the deity being worshipped or that can be a "srs bsns" hobby can be riveting and exquisite.
>>18122953Ironically the good Pagans are those new-agey types. Those who say Pagan gods are aspects of some vague divine principle and shit, and sell healing crystals on the side at worship. At least they believe in something, as dumb as it is. The ones claim they are reviving the traditions of their ancestors are much worse. They don't actually believe that any pagan gods exist, that they can help you for sacrifices etc. That kind of paganism only exist outside the West today. Instead they just have a political or cultural project and think that the aesthetics of paganism can serve it.
>>18124501no good fruit from an evil tree, I believe some jew once said. I need no other argument than your priests have betrayed you. christianianity is obviously an evil, rotten tree, sprung from evil and noxious seeds
>>18124560>actwually the leftist pagans who turn paganism into hippie commercialism are the GOOD ones guys!leftypol is letting their christcuck mask slip again you guys
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>>18124501>Stick to the script. You're not intelligent enough to deviate. You people have been claiming that all the good parts of Christian civilization is actually le secretly pagan.youre not intelligent enough to know your ass from your foot. this isnt a very hard concept to understand. christianity is inherently anti-pagan, because it is a semitic religion born from judaism, which is also inherently antipagan. you destroyed pagan idols and temples in the name of a jewish god. but you also stole many pagan customs and hacksawed them into your churches liturgy. this was not done because you wanted to, it was done because it was impossible to do otherwise. if a fully jewish, fully biblical version of christianity had been imposed on early christians, something like jehovahs' witnesses or seventh day adventists, they would have rejected it entirely and seen that it was a wholly jewish cult. but add a little mithraism here, some celtic and roman aesthetics there, bit of wotanism there, and you have early medieval christianity, which appealed highly to the aryan soul. this form of christianiy is already long dead however and has been since the death of pope pius xii. your church was lost the second they decanonized saint simon of trent and cast his devotees, fellow catholics, as antisemities. its clear to anyone with a brain that the pagan elements of christianity were adopted to appeal to european masses and abandoned as soon as those european masses were no longer the most lucrative tithing option. now catholicism is quickly morphing into a mexican-jew-african religion, to cater to its new audience
>>18124582>maybe if I just say jew a lot it'll make me appear wiseThis is all it takes to convert wignats into the Marvel x Vikings religion.
>>18124602Sounds like it got under your skin a bit, jew
>>18124602>paganism?!? lmao, vikings much? le marvel. wignat! theres that mask slipping again. at least pretend to fit in
>>18122953Not even a larpagan but where can I buy that t-shirt?
Me it's: Paganism > Buddhism > Islam > Orthodox > Hinduism
>>18124639Hinduism is just very refined Paganism for a specific ethnicity
>>18124741>Hinduism is just very refinedDon't make me post poop pics.
>>18124741>>18124745So would you switch Hinduism and Orthodoxy?
>>18124605What makes you think that? Because I roll my eyes at being called a jew because I'm Christian just like pretty much all of your ancestors for the past 500 years? >>18124616Just because you gave me a silly voice doesn't make all of these literally true. You hear that so much because we can all see it for what it is. >fit inThis isn't your high school burnout clique. Where exactly should I fit in on an anonymous board?>picrelMister Jive had no qualms about having BAP on and they pretty much agree on everything. >>18124741That's the point of paganism. Most of the time we refer to the religion after the people.
>>18123020>killing people for falsely speaking for the gods, or armies moving thousands of kilometers simply because an oracle said they dreamed they would winthis is just shamanism. it still exists everywhere in the world even in modern religions
>>18123128Everything evolves or changes in some form of another. Why would belief systems be exempt from that rule
>>18124930You are literally a jew. Circumcised of the heart. A spiritual child of abraham of moses the niggerlover
>>18125179Well no, I'm ethnically European. >circumsized of the heartThere is no "of the heart", separate from my blood, tribe and race. Why am I the one telling you this? Maybe buy the course. I had your ilk pegged from the start. And contrary to the beliefs of elite neopagans, you guys are the meat and structure of their movement. A very shoddy base to rebuild from.
>>18124639Islam is the worst religion and pakis and muslim indians are worse than non-muslim indians.
>>18125268>there is no "of the heart"For such a snobby insufferable faggot you should maybe consider reading your own bible for once, maybe you would get the reference. Your heart is literally circumcised bud
>>18125347I've read my Bible. You should read your foundational infographics and video essays
>>18125437Nta but you clearly haven't if you think there's no circumcision of the heart. The term is used several times in both the old and the new testament.
>>18125445I thought >separate from my blood, tribe and raceWould make it very clear what I'm trying to do.
>>18125315Islam is much better than Orthodox and poo worship.
>>18125516Islam is a trash religion. Arabs aren't any better than indians.
>>18125577>Islam is a trash religion.Yep.>Arabs aren't any better than indians.Take it back!
>>18125577So you prefer Paganism > Buddhism > Islam/Hinduism > Orthodox
>>18123020The ''pagans'' like the guy in OP pics are not genuine pagans at all, they are just white nationalists who adopt the pagan aesthetic as decoy. This is why they are obsessed with race and haploautism rather than having a genuine interest in the real religious practices of ancient people
>>18122953It's better to be a LARPer than a jew worshipper.
>>18122957truth nuke
>>18123047>paganism with semitic theologypic rel
>>18123148quite heretic unless you pick up snakes you ain't a real Christian>they will pick up snakes with their hands; and when they drink deadly poison, it will not hurt them at all; they will place their hands on sick people, and they will get well.”Mark 16:18https://youtu.be/HEn-73Bu7ic
>>18122953that's what muzzies say too
>>18127738Islam is more European than Paganism will ever be.
>>18127815Islam is a more western framework than Orthodox.
>>18127815>Islam is more European than Paganism will ever be.>A christian who hates pagan so much he sees brown arabs whould behade him for being a kaffir as his brothers.
>>18122953>They refuse to acknowledge made-up bullshit that validates my beliefs and dismisses theirsGee I wonder why OP
