Hello to all interested parties. I would like to form my own political ideology called Banderite-Maoism. It seeks to destroy Russia along both an economic line (referring to both USSR and Russian federation as bankrupt capitalist states based on control of eastern bloc nations) and along a racial line akin to Bandera’s OUN. From Mao Zedong I take>hatred of Russia in economics >>Russia seeks to economically enslave the eastern half of Europe to a neo-Tsarist state which teaches Solzhenitsyn and offers revisionist theories about Lenin and MarxFrom Stepan Bandera I take>hatred of Russia along ethnic lines>>Ukrainian racial rite to self-determination without enslabement to the Jewish oligarchs in MoscowIn practice I would like to see this ideology somewhat resemble Juche kind of in that it stresses both racial and economic autonomy free from a ZOG neo-Tsarist state. Would anyone like to hear more about my ideology?
>>18123637Bandera was a fucking retard and so are you, the rehabilitation of him is so obnoxious and makes me want to support Ziggers just to shut the revisionist ultranationalists up. Russia is a vile imperialist state and Mao's interpretation of the USSR is absolutely correct, entirely vindicated by the fact modern Russia operates the same with the mask off.Schizophrenic hatred of Russians does not benefit Ukrainian nation-building in the slightest, because ethnic Ukrainians speak Russian following centuries of imperialism. Russians outside of Ukraine are more closely related to Ukrainians than you'd think. This Banderite obsessive hatred of Russians is a Lvivian degeneracy that doesn't understand how Eastern Ukraine works, and rather than decolonizing Ukrainian identity, opts to kill your own brothers and radicalize people who are moving towards the blue and yellow flag at a breakneck pace post-war back to their Soviet era "little Russian" identity.
>>18123651>>Bandera was a fucking retard and so are you, the rehabilitation of him is so obnoxious and makes me want to support Ziggers just to shut the revisionist ultranationalists up. Russia is a vile imperialist state and Mao's interpretation of the USSR is absolutely correct, entirely vindicated by the fact modern Russia operates the same with the mask off.I hate the actual Nazis too because they locked up Bandera and refused to make Ukraine an independent nation. What I envision is an actual OUN/ Bandera run dictatorship with Ukrainian race laws except it has a planned economy and work points/ labor vouchers like Maoist China did. This ideal state would see Hitler’s Germany, USSR, and USA all as same decayed dictatorships and hand of ZOG. What I dream of is the fourth international theory of Dugin (which this is modeled after) except for a pro-Ukraine bent with Bandera and Maoist thought as idols the same way that Dugin attempted to synthesize far left and right within NazBol. My ideology holds that Carl Gustav of Sweden, Napoleon, Stepan Bandera, Mao Zedong and Joe Biden and Zelensky are all manifestations of the same GEIST or world spirit manifesting itself in an attempt to destroy Russian chauvinism
>>18123686>My ideology holds that Carl Gustav of Sweden, Napoleon, Stepan Bandera, Mao Zedong and Joe Biden and Zelensky are all manifestations of the same GEIST or world spirit manifesting itself in an attempt to destroy Russian chauvinismI think you're my favorite poster ever, actually. I don't even want to argue anymore. Please, tell me more.
>>18123690The Geist of GWF Hegel is as I understand it philosophy self-actualizing itself in to truth and so as we synthesize Hegel with Marxism and racialism it stands to reason that this “world spirit” is realizing one thing- the DEATH of Russian barbarism and the ethnic self realization of each state without ‘superpowers’ dictating it (basically Juche of Korea from before 2022 when they spread propaganda of capitalist Russia and Juche realized for every single ethnic group and state on this planet). The following are a list of Buddhas who realized that RUSSEN MUSS STERBEN SO WIR LEBEN! They all embodied parts of Buddahood and Hegelian world spirit through their aim of destroying Russian chauvinism>Sigismund II of Poland >Carl Gustav of Sweden>Napoleon Bonaparte>Stepan Bandera>Richard Nixon and Henry Kissinger both>Mao Zedong>Zelensky >Joe BidenAdolf Hitler was the false prophet spoken of by Nostradamus (second antichrist “Hister”) who attempted to lead people astray. His goal of invading Russia was justified but he opposed ethnic self actualization by locking up Bandera and refusing autonomy to proclaimed fellow fascists like Quisling or Petain in France. Also we repudiate Hitler’s homosexuality and see his country as a decayed state of Prussian transvestites - pic related
>>18123696>Also we repudiate Hitler’s homosexuality and see his country as a decayed state of Prussian transvestites - pic relatedGorky's observations about Nazism's ties to homosexuality fascinates me. It's very clearly a result of repressed homoerotic tendencies and projected obsession with hyper-masculinity. It's a bunch of urban homosexuals seeing other urban homosexuals spring up and having projected disgust towards a degenerating society. Deeply perverse people.So, would the state operate under syndicalist model? How do economics work in the People's State of Ukraine? What about faith? Do we idolize Orthodox Christianity, or do we take the Primo de Rivera approach and go politically secular whilst idolizing the cultural teachings important to our people and history? The Orthodox Church is tied to ziggers or Greece, both of which represent East and West which attempt to destroy and degenerate Ukraine.
>>18123690Actually also I should add that the Nazi operation Barbarossa always was intended to destroy UKRAINE and not Russia. The Molotov-Ribbentrop pact is to us the ultimate proof that Hitler was ALWAYS a pro-Kremlin stooge from the Beginning.My party holds the following conspiracy theory that while signing the Molotov and Ribbentrop pact Hitler told Stalin “Hey, we are gonna invade and subjugate Ukraine and parts of Russia in the next year so in secret, evacuate all the Russian ethnics and leave only the Ukrainians for us to do away with” to which Stalin obliged as he secretly knew from the beginning what Hitler was up to.The end of the war in 45 was also a smokescreen and Hitler’s body never turned up because he was living in SIBERIA of all places and helping the Soviet regime to plan a new extermination of the Ukrainians
>>18123705One question I answer at a time.>>How do economics work in the People's State of Ukraine? What about faith?Planned economy with labor vouchers as Marx intended for socialism (we see the Russian ruble as capitalist and entire USSR as a capitalist state). Our economic model is either labor vouchers or work points of Mao Zedong and Pol Pot.>>Do we idolize Orthodox Christianity, or do we take the Primo de Rivera approach and go politically secular whilst idolizing the cultural teachings important to our people and history? Russian Orthodox Church is banned entirely. We are pagans of the ancient Scythian sort and we view their colonization of ‘Palus Maeotis’ in 1000 BC as the true birth of Ukraine state. We ourselves have a priestess caste of “Enaree” transvestites as the ancient Scythians were reported to have as described by Hippocrates.https://classics.mit.edu/Hippocrates/airwatpl.22.22.htmlThe difference with modern transsexualism is that Enarees only come about through erectile dysfunction which is sent from the god as the ancients believed so you can’t just choose to have dysphoria (we view dysphoria as Fascist in nature and a plot to do away with culture and gender in making everyone subordinate to capital). >The Orthodox Church is tied to ziggers or Greece, both of which represent East and West which attempt to destroy and degenerate Ukraine.Yes. See above. It is banned. We are pagans and worship the goddess ARMPUSA of the ancients Sauromatae tribe. Our diviners are a transgender class of priestesses who are abstinent
>>18123705>>>Artimpasa (Ancient Greek: Αρτιμπασα, romanized: Artimpasa; Latin: Artimpasa) was a complex androgynous Scythian goddess of fertility who possessed power over sovereignty and the priestly force. Artimpasa was the Scythian variant of the Iranian goddess Arti/Aṣ̌i.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artimpasa
>>18123705Ukraine should go full Baptist state, they need a Baptist Cromwell
>>18123820Baptist or any Christian sect really is foreign to Europe. Really under this hypothetical Khmer Rouge style Year 1 mixed with Bandera style fascist national rebirth society Paganism would be ideal and it would have to be Sauromatae paganism as sarmatians were first to inhabit Ukraine and are oldest distinct IE culture they can trace themselves back to.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sauromatian_culture
>>18123696>Glazing Hegel this hard then dismissing PrussianismGo away fraud. Hegel literally thought that the Prussian state was the end of history. Also, I get you are anti Nazi but where are Ludendorff and Hindenburg on this list? They absolutely annihilated Russia in WW1.There is also a huge overlap between Hegelians and trannies which is too suspicious to be ignored.
>>18123851Under the Banderite-Maoist ideology, Brest-Litovsk and Molotov Ribbentrop both prove the ww1 and ww2 German states to be puppets of Moscow because they seek peaceful coexistence with Russia rather than complete racial extermination of Russia. Joe Biden is the culmination of this path of truth and Hegel’s opinion on Prussia is itself revisionist
I should add also that as regards the extraterrestrials and UFOs we are Posadaists through and through.History has culminated to this current crises. After Zelensky convinces Keir Starmer and Trump to nuke Moscow this ridding the world of the Tsarist threat, the aliens (being racialist socialists by necessity as that is the apex of ideology and their culture being so advanced would allow no other ideology besides ours) will finally come down to thank us for ridding the world of the Rus threat. Then Trump, Zelensky and the Bandera-Maoist aliens will also nuke the pro-Russian Deng Xiaopingists in Beijing and the world will be free of neo-Tsarist untermensch influence and all three of them will have a dance off on the ruins of the Kremlin or something with the aliens acting as judges
You should kill youself banderite dog
>>18124591Stepan Bandera>wants autonomy of his nation and free from Moscow influence Mao Zedong>wants autonomy of his nation and free of Moscow influenceI know the sino-Soviet split was after Bandera died but OUN should have traveled incognito to Beijing and have attempted an alliance. Both nations just wanted their own path to follow without Neo-Tsarists ruling their nations like it was Nicholas II era
just play OUN in kaiserreich
>>18124609This ideology actually surpasses Dugin’s 4th political theory because this is FIFTH political theory. You have the joy of having been in this thread when the greatest ideology of the century was born.
>>18124624you're an ukrainian neo-nazi this isn't so complex
>>18124649No, read the actual thread. It is the Ukrainian solution to YOUR NazBol ideology which Dugin and Ivan Ilyin are part of.5th way Bandera-Maoism is intended as NazBol for the western states, Ukraine and Israel. We see Gaza and Iran as Muslim tyrannies and all “existing socialism” as revisionism. This ideology may be too revolutionary for you to handle actually If you are born in Ukraine, Taiwan, Israel, US, Europe you are born in racial harmony to strive for elite Bolshevism whereas if you are born in any of the countries which attended the China parade in Beijing in May 9 you are doomed to reactionary chauvinism
>>18124674you've convinced me, let's form the chudternationale together with taiwan and paraguay, annex russia up to the urals and reform kyivan rus without c words and ziggers
>>18124649How is any of this any less coherent than actual NazBol and Posadaism?
>>18124700it is coherent
>>18123637What is your position on Lenin?
>>18124797Lenin set the borders of modern Ukraine with his SSR so we approve of him for that and we also approve of his influence on Mao Zedong. Modern Russia is a neotsarist state which reappropriates his image for their National Chauvinism so we oppose the simultaneous use of Lenin as a Russian icon by Putin while degrading him for creating Ukraine in 1918 to quote unquote “weaken the Russians.”
>>18124797To phrase that better, we 100% support Lenin’s actions in creating Ukraine in 1918 as Putin claims he did though we think our new ideology supersedes traditional M-L and makes his ideology outdated the same way Lenin has been removed from DPRK ideology because they claim Juche supersedes it and makes it outdated
>>18123637>From Stepan Bandera I take>>hatred of Russia along ethnic linesThere is no real ethnic line here. There are no "ethnic Russians" any more than "ethnic Americans"... it refers to indigenous voodoo pagans if anything. Contemporary Russia is a political ideology that takes dozens of ethnic groups captive, including Slavs, Tatars, Uygurs, Chechens etc. To destroy Kremlin is to destroy Russia and that's where our efforts should be ideally aimed.
>>18124869Yes, the idea regarding Russia does take that from Lenin- “great Russian chauvinism” and “the graveyard of nations.”
>>18123637''Jewish oligarchs in Moscow'' and ''Russia seeks to economically enslave the eastern half of Europe'' Let's break your retarded post into two parts.1. Oligarchy is a completely shitty term, and the fact that some Jews held high positions is cherry picking. Considering that Jews were discriminated against in the Russian Empire, and that during the civil war, the White movement wasnt friendly towards them either, it's no surprise that they supported people who didn't treat them like shit. Secondly, when the economy collapsed, Jews, landless and in many cases not part of the proletariat, found work with the Reds. Thirdly, the creation of the state of Israel was purely a political maneuver by Stalin, and when it turned out that Jews wouldnt side with the USSR, "Jews" immediately became another enemy. 2. When it comes to the enslavement of Eastern Europe, it was the other way around: the USSR subsidized its satellite states (this money, along with the panic about enemies of recolution, was the reason for stationing the army, e.g. in Poland). In general, the entire Warsaw Pact was a cost, and what they stole was a poor recompense.ps.Do you realize what those wretched idiots did in Volhynia, and their Nazi "allies" treated them like subhumans? If you're looking for a national hero, look for someone who didnt intimidate their own citizens into committing genocide?And where does this hatred for Russians come from? Sure, Tsarism wasn't the best place in the world, but Ukrainian nationality was still developing there (don't talk to me about the Chetmanate; before the French Revolution, the nationality we know and love didn't exist). Meanwhile, at the beginning of the USSR, Lenin gave the Ukrainians significant autonomy. It wasn't until Stalin that the Korenizatsiya (Ukrainian Reformation) stopped, and the situation stagnated (which doesn't mean it was bad).
>>18125259>VolhyniaBandera arrested in a concentration camp during this massacre and had no way of organizing or leading it at all.
>>18125259Stepan Bandera and Mao Zedong have quite a lot in common I noticed. Their nations were on the defense against aggression from the degenerate Soviet Union which sought to enslave them both in its coil. The USSR was from its inception both state capitalist as well as a multiracial state which was doomed to failure. It wasn’t like both Banderite Ukraine and Maoist China- United in ethnic bonds of purity. The pure racial states each deserve their own homeland and it will only be with the destruction of the Great Babylon spoken of in book of revaluations aka MOSCOW that this shall come about
>>181253331.''Bandera arrested in a concentration camp during this massacre and had no way of organizing or leading it at all.''My point was that Bandera was a symbol (if I were to point to a living scumbag under whose orders the murders were carried out, it would be Roman Shukhevych). This doesnt change the fact that the OUN-B and later the UPA massacred non-Ukrainians. Besides, let's not forget that Bandera was released from a concentration camp alive and collaborated with the Third Reich for the second time.2.'' It wasn’t like both Banderite Ukraine and Maoist China- United in ethnic bonds of purity. The pure racial states each deserve their own homeland''Brother in Christ, Ukraine was not racially pure. Various ethnic groups have lived in these areas for hundreds of years. The fact that nationalists carried out ethnic cleansing did not change this fact.3.''The USSR was from its inception both state capitalist as well as a multiracial state which was doomed to failure.''The USSR wasn't doomed to failure. The collapse was caused by a multitude of problems that had festered over the years, although if I were to point out the details, it would be Gorby's reforms. Besides, let's not forget what a hegemon the US is and that it is a multinational entity in its very essence (the US, despite its internal problems, is a superpower with a huge economy and military bases everywhere. The fact that kids shoot each other with guns and the homeless sleep in cardboard boxes doesn't change the real significance of the country on the international stage and in the global system of economic relations).ps.Please dont talk to me about races. I don't believe in fairy tales about mythical Aryan people and that guy with two brains who created white people.
>>18123686>refused to make Ukraine an independent nation.>WHY THOSE KRAUTS DON'T WASTE THEIR LIVES SO THAT UKRAINIANS WOULD BE HAPPY? REEEEEEIt's not "russian chauvinism", pigger, it's people being finally done with your "ME ME ME ME" and "WE WUZ RUS AND SHIEEET" shit.
>>18127651You heard of Maoist-third worldisn? Well this ideology is called Maoist-FIRST WORLDISM.https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KoiaAzrtyIY&list=RDr6EK3ee_byk&index=2Third world masses are all “labor aristocracy” and the first world oppressed masses shall rise against them
>>18127651>>18127651If you’re not a transgender man from Kiev w a Trident tattoo you aren’t truly oppressed, Ivan.
Browns and blacks move to first world countries, pop out hundreds of kids and eat up our tax money - the tax money of the American worker. Likewise their home countries take thousands in Aid from first world states.Maoist-First worldism repudiates the notion that these Labor-aristocrats are actually workers and not leeches.
