>Irish population explodes in the 18th century because English rule has created a bare minimum level of wealth in the country for the first time in history>the Irish grow nothing but potatoes because it's the easiest/lowest effort crop and they lack the foresight to diversify>one year a blight happens and a literal Malthusian catastrophe (which is almost exclusively observed among non-human animals) occurs>Irish MPs do nothing to prevent own Irish merchants/traders from exporting potatoes to England, because it would hurt their business interests, leading to starvation>Irish landlords evict Irish families from their homes leading to mass homelessness>blame the English for not banning imports from Ireland; blame English for the famine because they didn't intervene enough to counteract Irish incompetence, because the English were optimistic enough to think that the Irish would actually exercise a degree of agency and do something about it themselves>the English quickly realize the Irish were too stupid to do anything about it themselves and immediately intervene>the Irish get butthurt and use this event as an excuse to start murdering random English civilians o algoHas any historical event been more misrepresented than the Great Famine? It happened because the Irish were incompetent, had stupid farming practices, and lacked the capacity for self governance, yet for some reason, the English get the blame.
>>18127014Kill yourself you lying rat.
>>18127595>no response, just seethe
>>18127595FPBPOP BTFO
Jesus OP, there's jumping the shark then there's your retarded post.The reason the potato blight was so utterly devastating was because of how utterly incompetent the *British* administration was.Whether by underfunding the fishing industries to prop up Scottish ones, by open malice toward the Irish, or by the centuries of utterly inept governance in Ireland, the island was uniquely vulnerable. The vast majority of the Irish population were impoverished farmers with zero economic nor political agency.You are both morally and academically outflanked by British people from 100 years ago; the Cambridge History of Ireland from a century ago takes a less retarded view of events than the one you have offered. I guess we're back to>0 days without Ireland derangement syndrome on /his/
>>18127807>the british didn't gibs me enough shit fo' free therefore they're responsible
>>18127595>>18127789>aye laddie, it was real in me mind!Cope
>>18129195>>18129166>>18127789>>18127778Perpetually 15.
>>18127014Not a single part of this post is false, and yet it has precipitated an outpouring of Hibernian seethe.Of course, on the face of it, it makes sense to question the 'Irishness' of MP's and landlords with non-Gaelic surnames or who were strongly Unionist. But, you then remember that any such individual who wrote a good book, created a nice painting or designed a nice building is now thought of as 'more Irish than the Irish themselves'.Those landlords and MP's were as Irish as Yeats
>>18127014Is this true?
>>18129292Yes. Irish MPs and landlords tried to enrich themselves at the expense of their own people, which lead to famine. The English pretty soon figured out the gravity of the situation, and intervened. To this very day, seething Irish nationalists will find a way to blame it on da angloz.
>>18127014>malthusians will actually tell themselves thisgeeeg britbongs lost their empire to this
>>18127014The famine didn't even kill most of them. It just made life uncomfortable causing them to flee on overcrowded ships to America. Most of the death toll was from contacting typhus on the ships
>>18127595settle down paddy
>>18127014>English government controls Ireland>a million oppressed people die>"How could the Irish do this?"wut
>>18129333>>18127014You're a fucking retard. 200 years previously they planted a bunch of settlers and stole land from the native Irish so the native Irish could only grow potatoes. It wasn't "Irish landlords" the land was all owned by descendants of English/Scottish settlers and planters.
>>18129166Irish were citizens of the UK and tax payers and were British too so why is too much to ask that their government should have done more to help?
>>18129333>Irish MPs and landlords tried to enrich themselves at the expense of their own peopleName the MPs then and how they enriched themselves...
>An englishman lecturing a german on race relations>An englishman talking about the irish
>>18129289>more Irish than the Irish themselvesThis was said of the pre-Tudor Anglo-Norman nobility that then moved over and settled in Ireland. Many of them began to speak Gaelic and since this was pre-reformation, there was not a pronounced sectarian divide between them. Not for Unionist MPs of the 19th century.
>>18127014>>the Irish grow nothing but potatoes because it's the easiest/lowest effort crop and they lack the foresight to diversifyThat's kind of a lame argument. They grew the most efficient food. This happened everywhere there were peasants throughout Europe. The famine as it was happened only because the other crops were owned by foreign powers (or owed to foreign powers by local powers). This wouldn't have happened in a country that was run by it's own people. Potato blight caused smaller famines in plenty of places around Europe, the difference in Ireland was that the authorities made it worse. >>Irish MPs do nothing to prevent own Irish merchants/traders from exporting potatoes to England, because it would hurt their business interests, leading to starvation>>Irish landlords evict Irish families from their homes leading to mass homelessnessThese are the same 'Irish' who'd be counted as 'English' when OP and the other anon on /his/ who make these totally organic anti-Irish posts are considering Irish accomplishments. >>the English quickly realize the Irish were too stupid to do anything about it themselves and immediately interveneThey didn't intervene until their policy goals of reducing the Irish population was achieved. They had to stabilize the country at a certain point to keep agriculture going and cheap food flowing out the country. This is completely standard for most genocides in most of history, the idea was almost always to reduce the population to achieve the goal of keeping them subservient so they would keep working for the occupiers. At a certain point this involves stepping in to end the famine or end the plague or stop the sectarian fighting, and they always try to claim credit for this.
>>18127807They weren't incompetent. That implies they were trying to do what was best for the Irish people but they were failing to do so. They were competent in reducing the population, and they were effective in preventing any kind of uprising in that generation (mid-18th century would have been right on cue for the next uprising).
>That's kind of a lame argument
There should be a wheel to spin about British colonial genocides. Is the reason for the genocide British>incompetence>greed>geopolitical psychopathy>malice>philosophical/religious derangementThe only good thing is most of them admit this was absolutely shameful and regret it.
