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>Dias De Los Muertos
It's catholic?
>Uh no, Jesus and the Bible said that the deads are dead and they don't give advices and will never come back, Dias De Muertos is a pagan holiday
So it's mesoamerican paganism?
>Uh no, aside from petals the offerings of food and praying for them is a catholic thing that aztecs and mayans would have never done
So it's a mix of catholicism and paganism?
>Probably
So it's catholic alright
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>>18128672
>place with both strong catholic and traditional beliefs have festivals that incorporate both Catholicism and traditional beliefs
Uh, obviously? No one denies this. What is this thread for?
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Its a 19th century invention of Mexican Nationalists that fused Catholic and imagined "native" symbols.

Its like the Aztec "Dancers" you see sometimes. Their outfits and dances are a LARP even less old lol
Some Native American Pow Wows dont even allow "Aztec" groups to perform. They arent Federally recongized and real Indians know how much of a LARP it is.
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>>18128672
Invented in 20th century by the federal government. And it would probably fade away quickly if they stopped pushing it. In truth, spics just do things, and then they stop doing them.
>>18128712
It's from the 90s, I'm pretty sure.
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>>18128712
>>18128733
It was called All Souls Day before spanishoids ruined it
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There is a factually-presented account of a witch summoning and speaking with the dead in Samuel.
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>>18128759
Which didn't had offering food on a graveyard and putting petals on it, did it?
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>>18128833
So the Bible didn't say that the deads are dead and they don't give advices and will never come back.
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>>18128842
It says they don't give advices and they stay dead, unless ressurection of the deads and that witch.
The witch was one of those that could, maybe she was christian
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>>18128920
The witch was a saint?
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>>18128920
esl nigger
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>>18128733
it's from the 30s
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>>18128672
The practice itself isn’t catholic, but since most Mexicans are catholic they also add prayers and religious artifacts to the tradition. The lore behind it is entirely Mesoamerican. When you die your soul is guided to Mictlan, the land of the dead, by a Xoloitzcuintli. Near the end of the Aztec calendar year your living family members put out Cempasichil flowers to guide you back to the world of the living so you can visit them and recieve offerings. The skulls represent the god and goddess of the underworld who preside over the festivals. The layered altars represent the different realms like the earth, sky, & the underworld. The spanish only tried to erase the practice but it wouldn’t go away so they just moved it to November and called it a day
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>>18128672
>Uh no, Jesus and the Bible said that the deads are death and they don't give advices and will never come back.
this is how you can tell someone has never read the bible, Jesus literally goes into desert were he unlocked holy powers thanks to the spirits of Moses and Ellijah he summoned
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Catholics had Commemoratio Omnium Fidelium Defunctorum, mexicans slapped a larp name in it and said it's ancient but recent
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>>18129552
>Lazarus is dead
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>>18128672
The Church has the power to baptise pagan things and drive the demons away from them, leaving only the good. This has been done since the beginning, and this willingness to bless and integrate the good parts of local pre-Christian traditions is a part of what has made the universal church so effective at being universal.
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>>18130749
>The Church has the power to baptise pagan things and drive the demons away from them, leaving only the good.
There is no "good" in paganism, everything good which the pagans have they stole from God. When you try to "baptize" paganism, you only paganize the Church. Christ conquers the world not by making pagan stuff Christian stuff but by making pagan people Christian people. Throw your idols in the fire and submit to Christ.
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>>18130797
Christ will know we're doing it for Christ and for the presence of Christ in the paganism, right?
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>>18129387
Leaving flowers at altars for the dead and pretty much everything else about it is documented from european practices before
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>>18130797
>there is no good in paganism save that which they stole from God
Funny considering vast sections of the psalms were stolen from older sumerian amd egyptian prayers. David was a hack!
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>>18131560
Or maybe they stole it from god



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