Historically, what conditions led to these being the only nonwhite countries with a QoL comparable to the west?>Middle America: Bahamas, Panama, Puerto Rico, and Costa Rica>Southern Cone: Argentina, Chile, and Uruguay>Arabian Peninsula: Saudi Arabia, United Arab Emirates, Oman, Qatar, Bahrain, and Kuwait>Malay Archipelago: Malaysia, Brunei, and Singapore>East Asia: Japan, South Korea, Hong Kong, and Taiwan
>>18129386High IQ
>>18129386>Middle Americawhite admixture and US money>Southern Conewhite admixture and British money>Arabian Peninsulaoil and economically efficient form of tribalism>Malay archipelagoHigh quality chinese diaspora and British money>East AsiaHigh iq
>>18129386>BahamasTourist money> PanamaCanal money>Puerto RicoUS colonial money>Argentina UruguayWhite people>Saudi Arabia, United Arab Emirates, Oman, Qatar, Bahrainseriously? its oil money man>Malaysia SingaporeSmart asians>Japan, South Korea, Hong Kong, and Taiwansmart asians some colonial profits
>>18129409What about Brunei tho?
>>18129386>Mesoamerican DNA>Argentina is White>Natufian DNA and jeet/seamonkey slave underclass>Han DNA>Jomon and Yayoi DNA
>>18129446see >>18129407>High quality chinese diaspora and British money
>>18129446Oil, it is basically a gulf state in Southeast Asia.
>>18129499If oil is an insta win button then how come Gabon, Venezuela, and Iran are poor as shit?
>>18129463>High quality chineseMany were poor as fuck, legit coolies, or low effort middle men skimming off the colonial system. Most of the earlier traders and immigrants either got semi-assimilated or married into the area.
>>18129407>>18129409>>18129455>High iq/smartnessMidwits still projecting current affairs and trends into the distant past. That and using "DNA" like it means anything.
>>18129502Muslim absolute monarchies just handle it better
>>18129455>mesoamerican DNAPanama and the Bahamas are mostly black tho
>>18129529yeah its bullshit they simply got raped properly by their white masters and have enough small population to make tourist/ trade route income beneficial
>>18129502Iran isn't poor as shit they actually live quite decent. Same with Gabon if you compare it to the rest of Black Africa. About Vuvuzela? Were they are just retarded even more than your average Latinx trying to cross Rio grande
>>18129538>yeah its bullshit they simply got raped properly by their white mastersTheir development jumps were post independence.>have enough small population to make tourist/ trade route income beneficial.Bad excuse and downplaying. Tourism scales much higher with population size. The Bahamas have to deal brain drain and disaster weather, being small in population is a major flaw. Panama isn't notably small relative to the geographical region and it has a unique location
>>18129558 >Being small in population is a major flawTell that to Scandinavian countries. They achieved in 20 years what Germany and Italy had to achieve in century
>>18129386Anon you forgot about Seychelles, Mauritius, Barbados, Saint Kitts/Nevis, Trinidad/Tobago, and Antigua/Barbuda
>>18129576>Tell that to Scandinavian countriesThem being small is also a big con for them. Have you seen the situation in Finland?>They achieved in 20 years what Germany and Italy had to achieve in centurylmao.
>>18129582Those are all tiny island nations, not exactly hard for them to get rich.
>>18129740>not exactly hard for them to get rich.Not even remotely close. Stop trying to downplay them.
>>18129826The closest nigs have to a rich country that isn't a tiny island or canal zone is Botswana and their HDI is on par with fucking India's.
>>18129446>Bruneioil moneybailed out (Thatcher) when she needed some shekelsalso the sultan likes collecting sports cars and rolls royces on the other hand he did a pretty good job with the whole welfare state thing
>>18129906>The closest nigs have to a rich country that isn't a tiny island or canal zoneYou are still downplaying for totally dishonest reasons. You can't throw out decent success cases because it doesn't line up with your ideology. There are plenty of small states that are fuckups so it's not line it's an instant key to success.
>>18129906>Botswana and their HDI is on par with fucking India's..731 actually, India's is 0.685. Do the bare minimum you stupid cunt.
>>18129386>QoL comparable Lol no. HDI and other abstract indexes are really bad at measuring those kinds of things.That aside>CaribbeanTourism/fiscal heaven, part of the United States, and a bizarre combination of the two for Costa Rica, Panama.>Gulf statesOil>Southern coneResidual succesful economic policies from between 30 to 60 years ago. All three have their problems.>Ching chong landSavvy economic policy in the cold war, U.S dollars. For Hong Kong it was mostly that the city was the only independent way to access a then shuttered China. >SEABrunei is basically a gulf petrostate marooned in borneo. Malaysia has oil and political stability. Singapore is in an advantageous geographical position and is also a uniparty.
>>18130083Okay, what about Seychelles and Mauritius like >>18129582 mentioned?
>>18129386Puerto Rico>US stateBahamas >Tourism and low taxes/regulations>Also large white population Panama >Canal>US investment >TourismCosta Rica>Tourism>Stability that a lot of other Latin American countries don't have Argentina, Chile, Uruguay>They're all semi-white with good geography so that explains itArabian Peninsula >OilMalaya>Oil>Rich city states>Important trade route>Lots of Chinese business menEast Asia>Stable countries with good education systems>Europhiles, weren't averse to European methods or technology
>>18129446Oil. They have a shit ton
>>18129502Venezuela and Gabon are large states whereas a lot of the Muslim oil monarchies had super tight nit stable societies
>>18130110Tourism and tax havens
>>18129386QoL in Vietnam is unironically better than in the US.
>>18129386Just use this one. >southern coneArgentina, Uruguay is by it's recent white admixture, and it's fall is also explained by the recent fall of white admixture.Chile I don't know>Japan, Korea, Taiwan, and soon to be Chinaexplained by them being an innately high ability race, i.e. they're IQ.>Saudi Arabiaoil money>TurkeyAnatolian, Greek, and Central Asian genetics. Proximity to Europe.>SingaporeHigh IQ Chinese>Caribbean tourist resortstourist resorts with sky high murder rates outside of the resorts
Everybody keeps saying oil for the gulf, but like, the UAE is mostly a service and tech driven economy nowadays, and the other GCC states are on that path as well.
>>18130519Oil got them there. So I think the point is still valid. Without oil production there would be nothing there. Not even the infinite amount of Indian slaves.
>>18129407>>East Asia >>High iqThe keyword is american money
>>18130537Asians are high IQ tho
>>18130541But that doesn't do anything on its own unless you have american money injected directly into the country unconditionally.
>>18130547It does plenty on its own.
>>18130548No it doesn't.
All you need is IQ and appreciation for individual property rights and your wealth will skyrocket. Those two are the only things.
>>18130547>unconditionallyI doubt that. Investments comes with expectations and I'm sure we can find a strong correlations between the recipients of American investments and their close proximity to the greatest enemy to the American capitalist ideology - communism.>Europe + Japan Soviet>South Korea Best Korea >SEA + Vietnam China
>>18130555Heh what a fool. The real answer is american or british money.
>>18130554Yeah. So long there is exposure to European science and technology. Real value in the real world is done by real labor done by real people and not pieces of paper. The Japanese are intelligent productive people, they were going to become highly developed under almost any situation. Just like the Swedes.
>>18130654>they were going to become highly developed under almost any situationWhat a liar you are. Are you jewish? You lie like an Israeli. All the development only happened during american handouts. When the money stopped flowing in 1990 their country stopped developing. They're still stuck in 1990. And recently got passed by south korea and poland.
>>18130673Don't care about gdp/capita. I've been to Japan. It's a wonderful, clean, technologically advanced, safe place. Far more than any American city or state, regardless of what gdp/capita says.
>>18130677I have been to Latvia which is basically the same as you describe with a low GDP per capita. It was ALSO a wonderful, clean, technologically advanced, safe place with ABSOLUTELY NO JOBS, NO INCOMES, NO FUTURE AND 100% POVERTY.Japan is your Disney land.
>>18130677They use fax machines. Are you kidding me?
>>18130673>And recently got passed by south korea and polandThe difference is they got to this point without any welfare gibs
>>18130862>welfare gibsMassive US backing, stealing IP and products, manufacturing for US wars in Asia
>>18130478>High IQ ChineseSee >>18129504 them being "high UQ" doesn't matter in 2025.
>>18129407>>Middle America>>Southern Cone>white admixture and US moneyIberians aren't white and costa ricans, panamanians, chileans and argentinians are even less so
>>18129529Panamanians are mostly amerindian, they're over 50% amerindian on average
>>18129502Venesuela has communism as of recently, that means the good ideas are supressed.
>>18130862Massive US funding to build up japan and build cars in Japan.
>>18131069>that means the good ideas are supressed.Pre-Chavez Venezuela never had any had any either. The issues stretches way way back anon.
>>18130911Yeah and costa rican and panamian amerindians were just jungle tribals, not mesoamericans
>>18131629Nigga who cares it's the same difference
>>18129906I know you're trying to make Botswana look bad but that makes India look bad considering its population and etc. Around 70% of Botswana is a desert.
>>18129502Gabon idk, but venezuelan oil is shit tier with high sulfur content and Iran doesn't have that much oil.
>>18130519They built those things with their oil money because they knew it would run out eventually. I'm not even sure what the micro gulfstates had before oil, a single oasis?
>>18129504Chinese coolies were hired because of their technical expertise.Chinese coolies built waterwheels and water driven chain pulleys for tin mining in Malaysia and Indonesia that locals had no idea how to build.It would have been way cheaper for Britain to hire any SEA local to do miming or sugarcane growing, but they had no idea how to build those machines.
>>18132306they had pearl industry
>>18132374Oh to be a camel riding bedouin hunting with falcons in the morning and diving for pearls in the evening
>>18129502Gabon has the seventh Highest HDI on the continent and only had its first coup a few years ago I would not call it a shithole by Africa standards.Then again HDI is a flawed metric as evidenced by Lybia being 9th place.
>>18129386>Hong Kong>Taiwan>countries
>>18130083>Lol no. HDI and other abstract indexes are really bad at measuring those kinds of things.Quantified data always beats anecdotal evidence and people who say otherwise are always just coping
>>18132961Human Development Index is not equatable to quality of life. Factors relevant to on the ground Quality of Life are only accounted for by proxy (Say, Argentina's turbulent economy, or crime rates) and sometimes not at all.Plus, the data used in these studies may be flawed.
>>18133021Also GNI is a very bad way of measuring actual economic prosperity. Marginally better than GDP per capita maybe.
>>18129386>fucking russia>very high????
>>18133021>or crime ratesThe actual impact crime rates have on quality of life is greatly overstated, and crime rates are a useless statistic to compare between countries because different countries have different legal standards
>>18133038Russia isn't even in the top 60 in terms of HDI to be fair, I don't think it's an unfair ranking, but "very high" is a relative label. Anything below the top 75 is labeled "High" and anything below the top 125 is classified as "Medium"
>The Human Development Index (HDI) is a statistical composite index of life expectancy, education (mean years of schooling completed and expected years of schooling upon entering the education system), and per capita income indicators, which is used to rank countries into four tiers of human development. A country scores a higher level of HDI when the lifespan is higher, the education level is higher, and the gross national income GNI (PPP) per capita is higher. It was developed by Pakistani economist Mahbub ul-Haq and was further used to measure a country's development by the United Nations Development Programme (UNDP)'s Human Development Report Office.[1][2][3][4]Meanwhile, third worldist midwits on /his/:>NOOOOO ITS NOT A GOOD MEASURE OF QUALITY OF LIFE BECAUSE....BECAUSE IT MAKES MY SHITHOLE LOOK BAD!
>>18133058Go back to X.
>>18133058>pakistanis invented somethingnice try muhammad
>>18133045"Very high" can include a hypothetically infinite amount of countries, you just have to score above an .800 on the HDI scale. Obviously this doesn't mean countries like Switzerland and Belarus are identical, it just means they have a QoL considered high enough to be comfortable.
>>18129509DNA means everything.
>>18129407Bahamian? White admixture? Yeah sure.
>>18130429>>Also large white populationWhite people are 4% of the population.
>>18132160It's not, the natives of costa rica and panama were not "mesoamericans", they did not build pyramids or live in cities, they were no more advanced than the natives of brazil or colombia, thus making your original argument that their current levelnof development can be explained by their special "mesoamerican" DNA objectively incorrect
>>18130429>weren't averse to European methods or technologyNot really. They didn't mindlessly just copy Europe. It was more akin to a salad bar, that and immense American influence later on that pretty much overode Europe asides from the initial industrialization years.
>>18133611It doesn't unless you are think it's like Astrology or some shit.
>>18134204>did not build pyramids or live in cities, they were no more advanced than the natives of brazil or colombia,They still made stuff like pic related
>>18132365>Chinese coolies were hired because of their technical expertise.Nope. Many were juat labour grunts and a mobile workforce to drop wages further.>Chinese coolies built waterwheels and water driven chain pulleys for tin mining in Malaysia and Indonesia that locals had no idea how to build.Still coolies lol. On topnof that the indigenous people baaically were barred from actually gaining better labour leverage because if the use of coolies and deliberate underwriting.>It would have been way cheaper for Britain to hire any SEA local to do miming or sugarcane growing, but they had no idea how to build those machines.See my first point. Also the immigrants were used to be a middle man group to avoid and delay giving the indigenous people any type of status gains and positions. Super standard colonial fare.
>>18134734Chinese miners were migrating to SEA before British and Dutch ruleChinese miners ran autonomous moming companies (kongsi) in Borneo like Lanfang gongsi.The Dutch had to fight the kongsi to take over Borneo you retard.They weren't brought by the Dutch.Also Chinese violently fought against the Dutch in the 1741 Java war.
>>18134734>>18135148> juat labour grunts Average peasant in Giangdong knew how to build water wheels and chain pulleys you retard.SEA are not just Malays, natives of islands like Pulau Nias were traded as slaves.Chinese men had Nias women as wives.If Britain wanted free cheap labour with zero technical knowledge they could dragoon men from islands like Nias and have them work in Malaysia.Chinese in Java were also alcohol distillers, lime burners (making lime in ovens from seashells), sugar cane growers, stone masons, carpenters, millwrightsIndonesians had no idea how to build sugar cane mills or distill arrack.Same in the Philippines.
>>18135161>If Britain wanted free cheap labour with zero technical knowledge they could dragoon men from islands like Nias and have them work in Malaysia.They brought those guys into help depress theocracy labour. That's what happens you shuffle guys around, import coolies and have them all supress each others wages as migrant labour
>>18135148>>18135161And the vast majority of Indian and Chinese labourers were low level workers. Using some with skilled knowledge doesn't offset that fact.
>>18135161IIRC a lot of the coolies were brought in through Quasi-slavery contracts.Not as bad a blackbirding. But you are overselling them. Go fawn about the Kongsi, the malacca Chinese, the SEA trad ehouses if you really want to onions over the overseas Chinese.Being colonial serf labor used to depress local wages is nothing to be proud of.
>>18135645Though hte Quasi-slavery was more in the caribbean and the pacific so do not quote on this. For all I know SEA coolies were treated better.
>>18129386Saudi Arabia and Brunei is an oil country, the average Saudi and Bruneian is a retardMalaysia has large Chinese population who do all the workSaudi, Bruneian and native Malay are still 80 iq retards despite the wealth
>>18130862Only Poland didnt receive any welfare Gibs from America even South Korea plus Taiwan, Japan, and Hing Kong, recieved hundreds of billions of US dollars in welfare gibs from America, in free AID, as part of the scheme to develop them to make them look better than their Communist neighbors: China, North Korea, and Russia. (Picrel in the hundreds of billions of US Carte-Blanché Aid donated to them by us).
>>18130673American handouts to Japan ended in the early ’50s, just as they did for the other Western allies.
>>18135373>workers. Using some with skilled knowledge doesn't offset that fact.The thing is retard is that most "low level workers" in Guangdong and Fujian all had basic technical knowledge.The reason China became so overpopulated is because farmers were skilled at irrigation and water management.They had to know how to build rice mills, how to build water wheels and chain pumps.And the British noted that Chinese in Penang had expertise growing sugarcane but carefully guarded their secrets in growing and processing the sugar.Chinese made sugar into arrack in Java through sugarcane mills and distilleries.>>18135645All Japanese girls including 13 year old teenagers in British Malaya and Dutch East Indies were Karayuki-san prostitutes and they serviced the Chinese coolies.Japanese teenage girls were literally brought to Malaya and Singapore to drain Chinese men's semen.
>>18135735>Only Poland didnt receive any welfare Gibs from AmericaPoland got it from the EU and Germany.
>>18135917https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QaZmBFTxW9M
>>18135917>most "low level workers" in Guangdong and Fujian all had basic technical knowledge.Bullshit.>>18135646>For all I know SEA coolies were treated better.Most weren't. Among the Chinese and Indian communities that grew in more recent times due to labour shipping, the class and occupation status gap was pretty big over time. Some had access to formal western style education few had, but many had that weird "hypothetically in a better position" status while still being prone to exploitation. Many times from the colonial system and directly by European business interests, other times by their own.
>>18135998Btw I'm Iraqi, live in Sweden and rape little chinese girls everyday. Thx for posting my gainz.
>>18135999I assume Lee Kuan Yew was from those privileged few. IIRC he studied in London.
>>18136004He was well-off relatively and Anglicised but his home situation with his dad wasn't that good. Also his WW2 experiences has major impact on him since he had some near misses that could have went bad.
>>18136017I read a comment of his once about how the fall of Singapore made him change his preconceptions about the british and the invincibility of their empire.
>>18129538black dick was the white mans introduction into civilization and its not rape if its consesnsual
>>18129407whites were blessed upon induction and made to carry the mantle of their masters hence the curious transition from the mudhut to much richer pastures but youre still livestockremember that
>>18136037It's not like it matters, Singapore is better off today without the British than they ever were with them and it's all thanks to him.
>>18136414He needed British sensibilities to become a great leaderIf Lee didn't receive British schooling he would be half-wit like Mao and his commie buddies
>>18135999Wrong.
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>>18136579Mao was educated in modern western style university and attended lectures by John Dewey in Beijing.
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>>18136001Iraqi girls were mass raped in 1258 by Han Chinese under general Guo Kan and by Tamerlane and got raped again after the 2003 war in Iraq.
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>>18129386Panama controls the canal bahamas, CR and PR have tourismthe arab states are desert norwaysingapore, japan, sk, hk and tw all have major banking or industrial bases
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>>18136803He was a pseudo-educated sperg. He read a lot of books but never attended college or do anything complex intellectually that requires deep critical thinking. People like him are very dangerous, smart and well-read enough to do damange but not educated enough to see right and wrongLee was thoroughly brought up in the English system and values that's why he never fell for the communist meme
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>>18129386Large percentage of the southern cone is of European descent
>>18136987He attended First Normal University of Hunan, idiot.He did exactly what western education was meant to do.Did you know what Meiji Japan did to Japanese castles and temples and culture after westernising and what King Henry VIII did to England's monasteries and literature and what French revolutionaries did to French history and architecture and what Napoleon's army did to Spain and Portugal's historical relics?
