We have tradcaths, orthobros, and puritan larpers in e-Christianity. Which is most cringe? Which is most based?
>>18131058tradcaths are the cringiest, they're basically fedora tipping athiests who grew up but remained gaypuritan larpers are based and funny (bunny)orthodogs are just commies who cant admit they want to suck off stalin
>>18131064t. protestant
Puritanism is based
Orthobros are just Tradcaths who wanted an even more Grimdark religion with extra collectables.
>>18131058The anon who made these has a bunch, they are all cute
>>18131135Post more.
>>18131058That's the secret OP, they're all cringe. Hail Odin.
>>18131064>>18131095Puritanbro here you guys are based
>>18131058>tradcathsnot catholic, just join the reformation already>puritan LARPersmixed bag, pastor bob is based, anglicans are poz'd like the catholicucks they LARP as>orthobrossee >>18131102 , so, also based
>>18131064Not true at all. Way more embarrassing to be Orthodox.
it's not iconography, it's just icon or icon painting. iconography was first used to refer to the study of how images are interpreted, but modern icon painters adopted the term because it's smarter sounding.
Me when I see a nice cross
>>18131630When do we bring back the buckle hats
>>18131058>Which is most cringe?Orthodogs by far.>Which is most based?Puritans, but only because they aren't necessarily damned, unlike the other two options.
>>18131272His chosen recently posted a new video.
>>18131312Good thing the new pope is american peruvian, time to clean house.
>>18132022How are Orthobros damned?
>>18132109NTABut an argument I have heard is that orthodox and catholics don't put their faith in Jesus Christ but their specific church and tradition.
>>18132109They aren't trusting in Jesus Christ to save them. Don't take my word for it: https://www.goarch.org/-/how-are-we-saved-
>>18132109Because they practice idolatry and don't believe in Original Sin enough.
>>18132116This isn't true for Catholics, probably Ortho either. Mass is literally centered on Jesus.
>>18132181>This isn't true for Catholics, probably Ortho either. Mass is literally centered on Jesus.You do not trust in the finished work of Jesus Christ to save you. You think that mortal sin can make you lose your salvation, which can only be regained by confessing your sins to a man who you call "Father" but dresses like your mother. Enjoy Hell.
>>18132124I think you’re misunderstanding the Orthodox position a bit. Orthodoxy doesn’t deny trusting in Christ to save them, I didnt see any mention of this denial in the article.
>>18131058They're all cringe. Deciding to larp with Jewish mythology because you can't get a girlfriend is beyond pathetic.
>>18132144So do you believe we inherited Adam's guilt?
>>18132222>I think you’re misunderstanding the Orthodox position a bit.No, I'm not. To trust in Christ is not to trust in your own works. That article clearly teaches that works are a part of salvation. It explicitly says that salvation is a lifetime process and not something which can be had in a moment.>Orthodoxy doesn’t deny trusting in Christ to save them, I didnt see any mention of this denial in the article.That's because their pretense of believing in the Bible forces them to pay lip service to Biblical doctrine, while they work hard to subvert the plain meaning of words like "believe".
>>18132181A better and clearer formulation would be something like this1. The bible teaches sola fide as the only way to Christ.2. Orthodox and catholics deny sola fide.
>>18132116Well to those that argue that, id say that You can’t claim to follow Christ while rejecting the Apostolic Tradition that faithfully preserves His teaching.
>>18132248Were is that written in the bible?
>>18132193We believe that we can freely reject His grace through serious sin, and that Christ Himself gave the Church the authority to proclaim forgiveness in His name (John 20:23). It’s not about trusting a man it’s about trusting in the mercy of Christ working through His Body, the Church. I take it your a protestant..
>>18131058>tradcaths, orthobros, and puritan larpers in e-Christianityall of them are prideful in their boast and hubris, and will go to hell if they do not repent.Average cradle Catholic/Orthodox/Reformed is more Christian than any of them, at least they have shame.
>>18132267>We believe that we can freely reject His grace through serious sinWhich is why you're going to burn in Hell, forever.>>18132248Tick tock.
>>18132240works are simply the natural response of a heart transformed by Christ. When we say salvation is a “lifetime process,” it’s not denying faith in Christ, it’s describing the ongoing healing and union with Him.
>>18132286>When we say salvation is a “lifetime process,” it’s not denying faith in Christ, Yes, it is.>it’s describing the ongoing healing and union with Him.No, it's not. "Healing" isn't salvation from Hell. Have fun burning.
>>18132281Serious sin is turning away from Him. Faith is a living relationship, not a checkbox.
>>18132281It's weird because we learn that Jesus is our salvation in the Catholic Church. Jesus came to save us. Yet you Prots all talk about burning in hell.
>>18132296works are the natural response, not a requirement to earn it. Do you believe that salvation is a one-time event?
>>18132330Exactly this guy keeps saying we will burn in hell lol but he doesn't understand our position from his protestant view.
>>18132312>Faith is a living relationshipNo, it's not. It's a one time decision. Those flames just got hotter.>>18132330>It's weird because we learn that Jesus is our salvation in the Catholic Church.Correct. You pay lip service to the teachings of the Bible, but you pervert them to mean something different. >>18132332>Do you believe that salvation is a one-time event?Yes.
>>18132340>lolYour brain is worthless.>he doesn't understand our positionI understand your position better than you do. Tick tock.
>>18132116because they see the church as the physical body of the church on earth. Hardly a gotcha argument.
>>18132361>because they see the church as the physical body of the church on earthfreudian slip?
Folks, I have come to the opinion that Calvinism is based and redpilled.
>>18132341You can’t “get it once and forget it.” Scripture warns believers can fall away. Repent and return. (Heb 6:4–6)
>>18131630>>18132010Based. This is the only proper way to have right-wing pro-west Christianity.
>>18132385We know you do Satan
>>18132417I can’t wait to see your face on judgment day.
>>18132432I take it you also believe in once saved always saved..
>>18132472Absolutely. I believe the Bible.
>>18132481Roman's 2:5-7 makes it crystal clear that judgement unto eternal life or damnation is based on faithful works, not mere faith alone.
>>18132489Great! Those flames will be completely unbearable when you wake up in them. But bear them you will. Forever. But hey at least your “father confessor” has an epic beard, right? xD Unbelievable loser.
>>18132481Do you believe in the holiday of Thanksgiving and that the Pilgrims did literally nothing wrong?
>>18132494I think you’re going to burn in literal fire.
>>18132499Sorry but Romists and Baptists need not expect salvation.
>>18132493right, keep sperging out.
>>18132503Correct, i don’t need to expect it; I already have it. You? Not so much.
>>18132508If you don't practice infant baptism you are mislead by demons. If you don't believe in real presence in the eucharist you are mislead by demons.
>>18131058all of them are retards with no real beliefs.
Who cares? All of them revolves around a cult worshipping a nailed tranny zionist rabbi who called goyim dogs and like to slurp on teenage cocks in public gardens
>>18132493yep, not a single argument.
>>18132555Stop pretending you care about truth. You are just making things worse for yourself.
>>18132489I've heard an evangelical boomer insist that verse just means there will be "ranks" in heaven.
>>18132562truth, that's rich coming from someone who doesn't even know the origins of their "so called" faith.
>>18132554That's why we should honor a man who took dozens of BZCs and stayed straight.
>>18132248>Apostolic TraditionWhat is this? What does it mean?
>>18131312obsessed
>>18132235I didn't know my parents were raised in the church because my dad couldn't get a girlfriend.
>>18131058>Which is most cringe?The Orthodox, far and away. Orthodox converts are toxic to Christianity as a whole. They're an even worse blight on Orthodoxy itself.The Ten Minute Bible Hour is a guy who goes around and asks questions about different denominations and their practices. Not with any agenda, just asking genuine questions about different faiths. He, with the permission of the priest he was with, wore a hat during their tour of the church. The Orthobros absolutely hounded him for months. He says to this day that they are the most vitriolic group he's ever dealt with. It's not an outlying occurrence, anybody who says anything that doesn't align with Orthodoxy, or doesn't perfectly practice Orthodoxy, will get harangued by these people.>Which is most based?None. Don't be a larper. Pursue Christ's Truth with humility and meekness.
>>18132481Then how do you explain the multiple warnings the NT gives about those who fall away? If you're always saved, how do you "fall away" from something you were never a part of?
>>18131058I literally met and dated this type but she left back to nyc. Honestly top tier girl
>>18131058Protestants are pretty cool but the others are the jews of Christianity
>>18131312Wasnt that muslim thing just like a shack within a library outside the vatican? >NOO REEEE so what about airports that have chapels mosques and synagogues?
>>18132493You’re literally enacting the i am silly character. Maybe trying having nuance for once.
I’m sorry but the behavior, mindset and some outright insane events ive witnessed have made me question protestanism and its consequences. I think i may try going to the chapel next Sunday
>>18131058Well, the unbiblicality of your meme picture is so bad it's cringe, but pretty sure there's worse.
>>18133438>so what about airports that have chapels mosques and synagogues?I'm not even Catholic but you've got to be dense to think that public places having different worship rooms is the same as the heart of the Catholic faith building an alter to a different religion on their premises. Islam won't even allow non-Muslims in their holy cities, but the Vatican is giving Muslims a special prayer room to their moon god inside of their HQ? It comes off as weak and pathetic. Like they don't actually believe in their faith enough to draw a hard line for it.
>>18133443A beard won’t save you.
>>18133521My man im not even orthodox, youre just embarrassing yourself and not being serious about your own faith.
>>18133499Did you even do proper research about it? It's not even a mosque, it's a literal private space to do whatever lmao. For all the complaints for the Catholic Church, this is probably one of the most trivial IMO
>>18133521>>18133527I'm Baptist and I think OSAS is a joke. Enjoy Hell guy would just rather pretend you're a denomination he doesn't like because in his mind that makes his un-Christian behavior acceptable.
>>18133533Literally pharisee behavior that i only saw on obese manchildren and a 10 year old pentecostal "friend"
>>18133531>it's a literal private space to do whatever lmao. Pic related is from EWTN. Their "fact check" is trying to claim it's okay because it's just for the scholars present in the Vatican Library. So not only did the Vatican open a prayer room for Muslims, Catholics are going out of their way to lie about it to save face. If you regularly have to lie to cover your church's mistakes, maybe your church isn't the true one...
>>18133544>here here pic related just proved what you told me! Literal child
>>18131058>Which is most cringe?Functionally all if they base their aesthetics, theological development, etc, on Twitter, TikTok, or Instagram. >Which is most based?Going outside and being involved in a religious community instead of posting online incessantly. Aside from that the neo-charismatics.
>>18133551>just proved what you told me! No, what you told me was that it was just a room that these guys could do whatever in. What this Catholic news channel is saying, in defense of the prayer room, is that it's a prayer room only for the scholars and that it was only put in at their request. Not at all what you were trying to claim.I'll ask again, do you really think your church is the right one if you have to so regularly lie to cover up its' blatant errors?
>>18131095>Puritanism is bas-ACKOK, Christmas hater.
>>18133558Im not even in the catholic church brah, youre spazzing out over a roomNow lets talk about Witness Lee or mormons or Joel Osteen, or are you going to ignore that ?
>>18133569You sure are hell-bent on defending their honor for somebody who isn't even Catholic. Supposedly. >well what about...If somebody starts defending those tooth and nail I'll call them a retard, too. But at the present moment the only people being blatantly retarded in this thread are you and the "enjoy hell" guy.
>>18133578No, im rather neutral about it and would see the different angles of the issue. >youre just retardedSaid by the autistic zealot who has forgotten about love and just RREEACTS to everything. Let me guess, you also thought you were being persecuted when you government banned therapy conversions for fags? Maybe stop rationalizing your own non-regulated emotional reaction and surrender your pride of understanding. In that way, not only you will seem less of an autist, but will have a better way to communicate. Otherwise youre just a pharisee who is ardently passionate about his bible club
Perhaps it's time to stop taking religious debates on /his/ so seriously
>>18133585>>18133585>im rather neutral about it Yeah, because it's perfectly normal for somebody who's neutral to not only lie about the topic to make one side look better, but to also play dumb when confronted about the lie. Though in your case I'm not entirely sure it was playing.>autistic zealotNow that's the pot calling the kettle black if I ever saw it. You're the one who freaked out when I said this and an airport chapel were a false equivalency. You're the one who said that definitely wasn't what was happening. You're the one who tried to backpedal when the Catholic news agency said that was, in fact, exactly what was happening. You can claim you don't have a dog in this fight, but your behavior proves you're lying.>Maybe stop rationalizing your own yadda yadda yadda psychobabbleWe give the advice we ourselves need. You should probably listen.>pride of understandingYeah, you're obviously that Catholic guy arguing in the other thread. This is just pathetic.
>>18133620LMAO literal schizo running away from his bully behavior. i dont even know which anon youre talking about.not only youve proven to not be serious about faith and rather treat it as a soccer team but also failed to see the hypocrisy within your same logic.If the catholic church has its faults and therefore, from your perspective, not the true church then what is it? If you believe protestantism to be so then explain the three examples that i mentioned.Or dont, youre not serious about this topic and act like a child
>>18132812You have to be trolling lol but just in case your not. Apostolic succession is how every bishop traces his ordination back to the apostles, that’s how the Church stays the same one Christ started. Something your protestant Church lacks
>>18133626> i dont even know which anon youre talking about.Sure. You and pic related just happened to use the same phrase, which are the only two instances of it being used on /his/ besides my reference, within a day of each other, while arguing in defense of Catholicism. Not at all suspicious.>not only youve proven to not be serious about faithAh, you're trying to shift the topic away because you know you've been outed. Same as you've been doing with your blatant lie about the "private space to do whatever lmao." You suddenly don't want to talk about that one anymore, either.>If you believe protestantism to be so then explain the three examples that i mentioned.More whataboutism. A supposedly neutral party doesn't react to a claim with "Well what about x, y, and z?". That's the response of somebody who's invested and really doesn't want to have to address the claim.Man, if I knew outing compulsive liars was this fun I would have finished my psych degree.
>>18133670Thats not whataboutism. I'm just following your logic. Whataboutism would be me telling you how protestant countries have allowed muslims refugees in. Even though it is fallacious, it is a fact, but you wont address that will you? Ahh i see so that based anon bothered you and now youre having a cognitive crisis. If the catholic church isnt the true church then who is it?
>>18133674You don't even deny it. How do you reconcile lying about your faith with trying to claim it's the true church? Certainly lying and saying you're not Catholic when you are is a sin, no?
>>18131058Waifu threads are always made by low-value, low-IQ dysgenic males who have severe psychosis and a debilitating porn addiction which has made them into autogynephilliacs who worship celebrities. Truly, the lowest life form fathomable.
>>18133679Deny what retard? I already told you i dont attend catholic mass and you already made your mind>YES YES YOURE WHAT I SAY YOU ARE>NOO NO I WONT ANSWER FOR MY OWN CHURCH'S FAULTS ITS FALLACIOUS! You keep embarrassing yourself within every minute that im starting to think youre having a real time cognitive crisis due to some anon posting Lorenzo being based about pride about understandingI wouldnt be surprised if you werent very bright either. either midwit or low IQ
>>18133682>I'm not even in the catholic church>I don't attend catholic massI see the word games are in full effect. Again, not how somebody who doesn't have something to hide would respond. Are you Catholic? A simple yes or no will suffice.
>>18133687This is your brain on American protestanism
>>18133690Then just say "I am not Catholic". If you weren't, that's what you would have said a long time ago instead of playing word games trying to not *technically* recant your faith. All you have to say is "No, I'm not Catholic." and you'll prove me wrong, here and now. Just one sentence and you'll prove that I'm a complete schizo. But you won't, because you are.
>>18133700Regardless of the answer your behavior has spoken for itself
>>18133702I've given you the line to instantly win this argument. You won't take it because I'm right and you know it. You're falsely claiming to a be a neutral party to defend Catholicism when you clearly aren't. If you have to knowingly lie for your church to make it appealing, it's a false church. Do you really think Jesus would approve of you sinning for the sake of church PR?
>>18133533You’re literally not a Christian. Enjoy burning.
>>18133626>LMAOYeah, you lost.
Anglicanism is the one true Church.
>>18131058Byzantine women are famous for their lust btw
>>18134275Doesn't this come from seething Arab poet Al-Farazdak?I don't have the whole Syrian Affair translated, but he was definitely seething over Greek chads, here's a sample passage:Fair-haired Greeks have slain us with their swords,And the streams of our blood have flowed like rivers.They have trampled our lands and destroyed our homes,And we have been scattered like dust in the wind.They have attacked us with their spears and shields,And their arrows have pierced our flesh like thorns.They have brought fire and death to our towns,And we have been left with nothing but our sorrows.Oh, how we long for the days of our glory,When our heroes were strong and our armies invincible.But now we are weak and our enemies are many,And we have been defeated by fair-haired Greek warriors.
>>18134461The days of Dhiraar, the Naked Warrior, the DEATH of the pale faced ones will come again Honky
>>18133709He clearly rejected Jesus a long time ago.
>>18131058They are all cringe, but the puritans are the worst.