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Was he lowkey inspired?
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Ok he wasnt, but its impressive how his view of history is almost Christian
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>>18132805
Inspired by who?
>>18132873
Not it isn't.
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>>18132805
He was probably depressed for most of his life. But nonetheless DoTW was incredibly ambitious in scope
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>>18132805
Crazy he lived long enough to play in Breaking Bad
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>>18132805
Spengler was a diva
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He was the Rudyard Lynch of his time.
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>>18132805
He lowkey was, no cap ong.
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>>18134142
His mom raped him and he got chosen by Odin ?
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>>18134321
Speaking of people, does pic related even read the news? He went on a 3 hours tirade on why he is right while actively contradicting all current event just because "muh liberal order".
I knew neoliberal socialdemocrats (he is one in denial) could be detached from reality but seriously, like what the fuck, it was like his non-proliferation video at a time when one of the few countries which renounced its nukes and the possibility of making them is fighting an existential war against a fucking nuclear armed state.
He basically spent 15 minutes misquoting Spengler, not getting his ideas, pretending culture isn't a determinant factor just because mainstream western culture among the plebs still doesn't like faggots. Like, what the fuck, it's not even he can't make decent videos, he can, it's just he is terrible whenever it comes to anything related to geopolitics.
He is basically lying to himself trying to convince we aren't in spenglerian winter, we may yet extract some juice from the faustian spirit but the overall general trend, typified by Kraut himself, is evident.
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>>18135764
He just likes consuming and regurgitating generic pop his liberal nonsense. Why Nations Fail the youtuber.
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>>18135764
Him and others like him are basically doing what the Ciceros and Brutuses of Rome were doing before and during the rise of Caesar. They clung onto the old order, desparately hoping for a great reformer to save it, even as the population turned against them and embraced the autocratic Caesar.

These people will ultimately be little more than footnotes in history, the bigger threats are the likes of Cato and Pompey, conservatives who are capable enough of recognising their role in their resp. civilisation's destiny and exploiting it for their own benefit, they will be the ones who will fight the hardest to preserve the old system.
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>>18136232
He's just a youtuber. Not comparable to even Cicero. As far as Spengler's Morphology goes, though, comparison to Greece is probably as inaccurate as you can get.
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>>18135941
>>18136232
Oh yeah, I did notice he was adding quite a dosis of hopium to his presentation, Kraut having to point at Costa Rica when trying to refute LATAM democratic success while Cartels keep rampaging across Mexico, Venezuela is under a dictatorship, Peru has switched to its nth presidente in the last 5 years, Brazil put back a convict into power and we all know what his opinion of El Salvador and Argentina presidents may be almost made me chuckle. Whatifautist having a more coherent vision of LATAM just because he lived over there for a while may indicate Kraut hasn't traveled the world much, ok, neither Spengler but Spengler was still capable to figure out the massive utopian bias he got.
Where I think Kraut was right is in how we effectively like to paint maps on specific regions according to our own subjective perceptions.
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>>18136632
Spengler's main strength was that he didn't really do much contemporary Cultural analysis from anywhere that was not Europe, the one place outside of his millieu he talks about is Russia, and those sections are kind of weak. He voraciously consumed all the literature that was availiable to him. Which is the main reason why Egypt, Ancient Greece, and the Middle East are so prominent in his work. To his credit, he spoke very little about Cultures which he felt he did not have a complete enough picture of.
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>>18136711
>the one place outside of his millieu he talks about is Russia, and those sections are kind of weak.

Check his Essay on Russia:
https://besboshnik.wordpress.com/2013/02/09/the-two-faces-of-russia-essay-by-oswald-spengler/
I think he was on to something when he said russians aren't europeans.
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>>18136425
1) Romans had public figures, we have ideologies. Instead of Cicero we have Ciceroism, instead of Gracchi brothers we have Gracchiism.
2) Shitlibs have established really quite an incredible ideological orthodoxy, once you've met one you've met all of them, Kraut is just a talking head, but most shitlibs would agree with what he says.
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>>18137306
His main issue, their main issue is understimating so much cultural background, I won't go as far as defend what he calls cultural determinism as under the right circumstances you can shift certain cultural aspects in a people through generational changes and other means but it's obvious culture is a force to be reckoned with.
A point he may have is to asume people labelled decadent and degenerate will be incapable to put a brutal and grinding fight under the right conditions, let's not pretend the bordello and the brewery as well as fembois weren't common features of many "vigorous cultures", western capability to keep brutalizing and tormenting rogue global south powers with almost impunity should make it clear even during what Spengler calls civilization phase there won't be plenty of will for organized violence and the hands to do it, in fact, inequality and lawlessness can create an ideal background for fanatics and mercs.
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>>18132805
Is Spengler only liked by chuds or is he actually good?
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>>18137415
He's reactionary filth full of himself, perfect for twitter rightoids. Oh, and in case it wasn't obvious yes he's full of shit and talks mostly out of his ass.
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>>18137434
>full of shit
>>18137168
>Identifies the reasons why gommies got btfo in Europe/Near Asia
Seethe, cope and dilate.
Spengler is The Gigachud.
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>>18137452
>Gigachud
>Mischling
Well that checks out at least.
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>>18137415
Chuds don't like him because he hated Hitler's guts and was generally against racism and eurocentrism, he is somewhat popular among the ever so slightly intellectual rightoids thoughverbeit
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>>18137819
And chechen warlords, forgot those
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>>18137415
Irony is he wasnt even a chud himself
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>>18137168
Thanks. Those sections are still somewhat weak. And so is the essay. In discussing Russian Literature he never mentions Pushkin, for example.
It's a lack of information, mostly.
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>>18133330
Underrated
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>>18132805
>lowkey
Stfu stupid zoomie.
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>>18137876
>faustian spirit intensifies
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>>18137863
Though I still he does correctly grasp Russia's difference from Western Europe.
It would be very clownish to imply a country that did nothing but watch placidly during the reformation was 'Western'. Might as well include Brazil and the rest of Latin America. Plus maybe the Philippines, Angola.
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>>18138078
According to Spengler to what civilization LATAM belongs to?
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>>18138344
Organically? None. They are considered to be primitives without culture. They may try to adopt Faustian Civilization (in Spengler's sense of the word; a stiff and dead reproduction of an already completed culture), or may in the future moonlight it.

Spengler never really wrote on them at length, though he did have a close friend who was Latin American. With whom he corresponded often.
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>mfw a warlord reads your works in his free time
Do western politicians do this anymore?
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>>18138930
Does Kadyrov posture as a Spengler reader now?
Or who are you talking about?
>>18138637
I personally suspect the parts about Latin America in Hour of Decision all come directly from Quesada's Mouth. Mentioning Indigenismo in all but name is too specific for some foreigner a continent and a language family away.
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>>18137923
no.
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>>18138992
I just read an article about Spengler written by an argentinian, like most latinos he was emotive, the author put a lot of effort on understanding the personal and social context of Spengler, perhaps the most curious thing of the article is how he praises the poetry in Spengler, latinos being more artisic than technical oriented would praise this aspect of his writtings while anglos would find it somewhat annoying.
>>18138992
Spengler was interested in the new discoveries of the ime done by american researchers on precolombian cultures but he recognized he didn't have enough available information to extensively write about him. I wonder what his reflection would be on the Inca state, he lamented how thes aztec civilization got wiped out but also perceived in Tenochtitlan the beginning of late stage.
Quesada's discussion with Spengler on how the west ends in LATAM in the core of their main cities and the rest is untamed territory is perhaps the most intriguing part, it made me remember the war between the imported maoists trained in Lima's capital and the peruvian farmers, god-fearing, cooperativists not by Marx teaching but by cultural tradition.
What at first glance should have been a natural alliance descended into a bloody conflict which can be seen as a new iteration of western vs native entities.
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>>18138992
>Does Kadyrov posture as a Spengler reader now?
Who knows, they may find Russia being the next thing (tm) as an interesting talking point, however they may identify themselves more as magian.



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