Alright enough is enough you fucking idiots on this site need to stop dismissing historic reconstructions. The artists that make these are enthusiastic and passionate about history they want to recreate it in an as accurate way as possible they aren't just making shit up only paranoid schizoid brainlets think this. Not to mention that reconstructions are made a lot of the time with the help of archaeologists. They are displayed in museums, on museum or academic websites. This needs to stop "arguments" from incredulity are not arguments if you don't understand how an artist recreated a historic city or how an archaeologist knows what a historic or prehistoric building looks like either provide sources that refute the model/historic building or shut the fuck up and let the adults discuss things.Picrel is medieval Paris.
>>18163313How does this artist know what paris looked like? easy we'll start here.
>>18163313Anyone who dismisses historic reconstructions is not to be taken seriously. The brainless incredulous fucks are basically flat earthers that think if can't see something directly with your own eyes it's not real.
If it's not dug up it's made up. Sorry but not sorry. If you disagree you prefer fantasy over reality. Unfortunately this is quite common today, so westoids invite thirld worlders into their homes to breed their wives and daughters, this is all because of living through fantasies. If you try to shake them out of it they get extremely hostile.
>>18163313>The artists that make these are enthusiastic and passionate about history>le medid you really make those? they are pretty good
>>18163333Whenever you are arguing with someone and they say "hur dat a model, dat a drawing" you are dealing with a mental midget with the developmental maturity of a 3-year-old.
Exceedingly based thread
>>18163313Mesofag, germanfag etc
>>18163338>If it's not dug up it's made up. Sorry but not sorry.You are a low iq mental toddler what are the medieval paintings I just posted? are they made up? is it a conspiracy to hide the shape of the earth? see you are a paranoid schizophrenic with a low iq.
>>18163359>>18163338>If you try to shake them out of it they get extremely hostile.eeeeeeeexactly
>>18163338>Medieval paris is not real because someone made a 3d modelThey aren't sending their best...
>>18163359This is exactly how this artist made the model with these fucking PAINTINGS not his imagination you fucking idiots.
>>18163372there was a grafitti there that said GASTON SHAGS SHEEP but the artist removed it
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>>18163344No I'm having trouble finding the source actually he has a website I remember and he is also an academic I think.
There were satyrs in ancient Greece. Painters wouldn't lie.
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>>18163338Retarded /pol/tranny
>>18163389You are a schizophrenic with a low iq. You are absolutely worthless a tumor, a brainless useless hunk of flesh that is the enemy of reason and knowledge.
>>18163403the problem here is not that you will start believeing in satyrs, but that you'll believe any picture AS LONG AS there are no satyrs in it. and that's retarded. that's 5 year old
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>>18163408Just kill yourself flat earther go back to the moon landing hoax forum.
>>18163416James Mellaart faked the entire Catal Hoyuk map which you'd swallow in a second, hook, line, and sinker.
>>18163408There's no arguing in good faith with putrid incredulous scum like you. Why don't you actually try providing sources that debunk the model? try that instead of using dishonest analogies you rotten piece of dogshit.
>>18163429I don't take schizophrenics seriously like I said you are an enemy of knowledge and reason there is no honest discussion with you worthless losers.
such vitriol! I'd be extra perky if I destroyed someone in a debate.
I sense this is not the first time you encountered criticism. Do tell about other episodes. We have the whole evening. I'll make some cocoa.
>>18163443Because incredulity is infuriating. These "people" are no different to any kind of science denier. Stupidity and ignorance make my blood boil.
>>18163453I guess that's how religious freaks feel when they talk with Dawkins.
>>18163452I'm not meso anon but I always see idiots dismiss reconstructions of Tenochtitlan as well even though there is mountains of evidence showing what it looked like.People dismissing Norse buildings that were built by archaeologists as "muh reconstructions so not real hur" like that's some kind of a win or argument.Picrel you can see a horse gable that the Norse would use as a decorative element on their houses.
>>18163313I've never come across a post that dismisses reconstructions - maybe only really dated ones.>>18163338Please, stop thinking about interracial sex. Your mother really wants grandkids. >>18163356>germanfagI know the Mesoamerican Anon - is there a similar poster about german history?
>>18163580Mesotrash* you meant?>is there a similar poster about german history?Yes, but with some Nordicist bias and anti-italian
>>18163338What is it about history that draws the attention of sex obsessed racist losers like this?
>>18163377this proves that it's all a conspiracy and they're hiding the good stuff. Why don't (((they))) want us shagging sheep???
>>18163989what is it about the real world that you desperately seek refuge in pseudoscientific mirages?
>>18163986>anti-italianNot anti-italian I'm anti-sicilian also sicilians can be fine if they don't act like jeets whining about ebil whitey all the time.
>>18163998you will never have the sexy stubble
>>18163995Did I strike a nerve, anon?
>>18163995>pseudoscientific mirages?>>18163318>>18163333>>18163345>>18163359>>18163365What are those? there's even surviving medieval houses in Paris you dumb fuck. >>18163409 Why are you still going? haven't you been humiliated enough?I don't understand why retards double down like this after they have been exposed for being low iq clowns.
>>18164009what happens if you find two contemporary but contradictory depictions?
>>18164016Ok show me them.Do you think the Medieval Louvre Castle is a mirage? do you also believe the world is flat? Genuine question because you are the type of pea brained maggot that "thinks" like that.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medieval_Louvre_Castle
>>18164025you have no answer because the answer is to go dig for it, and if nothing turns up then it's speculation. no experiment = pseudoscience
>>18163986The posts of MesoAnon are put well together and sourced adequatly.>Yes, but with some Nordicist bias and anti-italianSo ancient germanic history? Well I'm not that interested in this topic anyway so no wonder I didn't come across him.
>>18164016>Pantings are all depicting fantasy guys because greek mythology and stuff durrrrrFucking shitbrained monkey you are.
>>18164042>posts a picture of real wallsyou proved my point megaretard
>>18164034>no experiment = pseudoscienceWhat the fuck do you know about science flat earther? GO BACK TO YOUR CONTAINMENT BOARDS YOU SHITSTAIN >>>/pol/ >>>/x/
>>18164050sorry they banned me on pol
>>18164045Provide a refutation to the reconstructions/historic painting or shut your mouth. There is no good faith discussions with maggots like you because you deny evidence(historic paintings)
you guys are gullible and desperately cling to cultural crutches to cope with the mess that Europe has become
>>18164052You're still going. Do you have self-awareness?
>>18164061>I-its that someone.....with an unfiltered and genuine interest in history?>DUDE EVERYTHING IS POLITICS AND CULTURE WAR ARENT YOU ANGRY YET RACERACERACE SEXSEXSEXKill yourself. You live a miserable life. It would be a liberating experience.
>>18164066do you? a grown up man brooding over old paintings of a bygone world posting anonimously and debating third worlders and in a such uncivilized language. what is art worth when your mouth are so uncouth? a shame
>>18164061>gullibleI have posted historic paintings, buildings >>18163409, actual fucking foundations of a castle >>18164042>>18164050and you a pea-brained conspiratard is calling me gullible? lmao you have absolutely no self-awareness
>>18164074>such uncivilized language.Muh did I hurt your fee fees? willfully ignorant dishonest cretins like are extremely damaging to society you deserve nothing but scorn.
>>18164075>actual fucking foundations of a castleI accept that. good boy.
>>18164084nobody ever elevated himself by such demeanour.
>>18163389With this dumb as fuck "logic" why do you trust anything from history? anything written down for instance? you just pick and choice what to believe like a small child you don't actually care about the facts or the truth.
>>18164100>why do you trust anything from history?I don't trust anything a priori and neither should you, however tempting it might be to reinforce your worldview
>>18164085>I accept that. good boy.You're an imbecile.>>18164088Have a cry you are scum and a hindrance to humanity's search for truth and knowledge.
>>18164106you believing such language makes you cool is why you are gullible. it was sold to you on this site, you didn't do it before
>>18164104You have paranoid schizoid thinking. Evidence is all you need to have trust in something. Why would a medieval artist make this >>18163365up? it's not logical he was just painting from observation all the evidence points to that because we still have a whole myriad of gothic buildings surviving but you are an incredulous paranoid idiot.
>>18164111It doesn't make me cool I just loathe "people" like you, you are ruining this board and historic discourse on the internet.
>>18164119maybe he made a mistake. maybe it was easier to omit something. think.
>>18164122I'm ruining the discourse... Talk about no self awareness.
>>18164126Weren't you the guy that brought up interracial sex?
is this accurate? where do you draw the line between stylized and photographically perfect? the painter might not have even seen the city, but painted from what others told him. or he saw it years ago and painted from memory. there are so many possibilities.
>>18164130interracial sex is a perfectly normal form of sex, nothing wrong there.
>>18164104So Tacitus's Germania is as historical as lord of the rings?There's a thing called corroborating evidence for instance he mentions a tribe that lives to the far north called the Fenni and describes them as hunter-gatherers living in tents and wearing skins the corroborating evidence is Finns(etymology) and the Sammi, see that's how this works.
>>18164140Just because the names match, and often they match when you want them to match, doesn't mean he described them accurately. No way to check, is there?
>>18164134Omg you are such a fucking imbecile I want to straggle you.>stylized Because this >>18163365 is obviously not stylized anyone with half a brain can see that this picrel is stylised get to it toddler?
>>18164149no, you can't judge how much it is stylized because you don't have the actual photograph. It is just well painted, but that doesn't mean it's accurate. How can you be so blind? An artist skill doesn't mean it's 100% correct. You can paint a dragon accurately.
>>18164139If you want a nice atmosphere for this thread then you should start with yourself.>>18164154So you only trust history up to the year 1800?
>>18164148>No way to check, is there?There is you idiot through archaeology and their modern descendants picrel still living in tents corroborative evidence.Why do you believe this photo is even real? maybe it's staged using actors to make you think the Saami existed it's a part of the Saami conspiracy. Why do you believe in anything? I guarantee you pick and choose what to believe like a small child you don't care about the truth.
>>18164159I take everything with a grain of salt
>>18164164Damn you must be really fun at parties.
>>18164163>There is you idiot through archaeology and their modern descendants picrel still living in tents corroborative evidence.that's right, from ethnology and digging things up. As I said.>>18164163>Why do you believe this photo is even real? maybe it's stagedThere are definitely plenty of staged photos, like the famous one with Inuit who shot a polar bear with a gun and then shot two arrows in his heart to pretend to be a great archer
>>18164154That's what Corroborative evidence is for fuckwit. >Other paintings showing the building>descriptions by eyewitnesses>archaeology >surviving buildings that reflect the same architectural styleIncredulity is NOT an argument, provide a refutation to these painting or fuck off back to >>>/x/ end of discussion I have had it with your stupidity.
>>18164171>that's right, from ethnology and digging things up. As I said.That's not the only way to do science toddler.>There are definitely plenty of staged photos, like the famous one with Inuit who shot a polar bear with a gun and then shot two arrows in his heart to pretend to be a great archerOk so all photos are fake nothing is real the earth is flat so you can kill yourself now and save some oxygen ok?
you went beyond ad absurdum
>>18164184>That's what Corroborative evidence is for fuckwit.many times those pictures were copies, you can see this in many bibles. copies sure do help corroborate
>>18164195I didn't that's where your dumb as fuck "logic" leads to you only trusting physical evidence through excavation even when a painting is fucking physical.You're too dumb to understand what corroborating evidence is. If you don't trust paintings then all of history is fake isn't it?
>>18164199>many times those pictures were copiesBaseless claim. I guarantee you are a christian where's the evidence of your god? dig him up for me.
>>18164214absoluztely not baseless. skim through the bibles, you'll see shameless reproductions of compositions etc.
>>18164210>all of history is fake isn't it?it's as accurate as subjective reports get
>>18164217HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!! I KNEW IT!!See you are a fucking small child mentally, you pick and choose what to believe like a wittle toddler you do not care about facts, history, knowledge or science you are a cancer.Do you also believe the world is flat? answer
>>18164232get a grip man
>>18164217>>18164223Provide a refutation to the paintings or shut the fuck up incredulity is not an argument.
>>18164242posting bad evidence is not an argument either
Anyway, they copied pictures because it was easier that way, of course. I hope you'll get some sleep tonight.
>>18164246>posting bad evidence is not an argument eitherGas lightingProvide a refutation to the paintings or shut the fuck up incredulity is not an argument.
>>18164259Refutation for the paintings or shut the fuck up incredulity is not an argument.
They are paintings.
>>18164269Incredulity is not an argument.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_incredulity
>>18164291eyyy thanks for showing your face man, at least some real chivalry
>>18164300Personal incredulity is not an argument refutation or fuck off >>>/x/
>>18164309you went into a loop man, not unusual after a trauma. I hope you get better
>>18164313Gas lightingRefutation? no?
Sleep tight, don't let the head bugs bite.
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>>18163313You're kinda screaming into the void here, the only people on this board who are autistic about reconstructions do it out of spite for posters they dislike rather than any actual academic concern, you won't make them change their minds with actual arguments
>>18163338tzd
