Why were the 1950's so peaceable in the US compared to other eras? Why did many Americans simply lose their desires to kill others during that decade in particular?
>>18169974limited availability of handguns compared to later decades
>>18170003>all of the existing handguns vanished in the 30s>and again in the 90s
>>18169974Everyone had their bellyfull of killing in the 1940s, and came back to high-paying jobs since the workforce had been depleted. The G.I.Bill gave tons of vets cheap housing in the suburbs, and Negroes had yet to get uppity. It was a series of unique circumstances that will like not happen again until after another global war.
>>18169974Combination of all sorts of things. Extremely violent men went to war and either got killed or got their lot of killing. It may be also that there was a fashion for harsher punishment in the judiciary in the late 40's that got violent people out of the streets. The reason it rose from there was kinda the opposite - a generation or lawyers who thought they can be lax became dominant. You can see it if you read the threads one anon makes about serial killers. They had smaller infractions with the law before that. One strangler-rapist even failed his first attempt(both the raping and the strangling) got like 2 years suspended for this and some time later went in a killing spree. Had the judge had a harsher heart and put this retard to jail until his dick stops working and this spree may have not happened.
>>18169974>Only comparable decade was during Clinton’s mass buck breaking.Really makes you think.
>>18170192Serial killer Jerry Brudos kidnapped and sexually abused multiple teenage girls when he was a teenager himself in 1950s. He was just put into light evaluation and surveillance in local looney bin for some months and it was arranged in a way that would not interfere with him graduating high school. It left no record on him, and he could later join the army and served abroad, though he was eventually discharged for turning out to be psychologically unfit for army career.He went on to commit multiple stalking and assault related offenses he was not caught for in his adulthood, which eventually escalated into kidnapping, raping and murdering at least four girls and young women in the late 1960s.
>>18169974>ellis island slumdogs got assimilated into something approaching humanity>nogs under control with the threat of being publicly lynched if they decided to act out>spics shitting themselves with the threat of a second operation wetback if they decided to chimp outits a mystery
>>18170198Homicides have fallen down to close to the 2014 lows in 2024, the cause of the pandemic spike is pretty interesting. >Blaming Clintonhe was around at the end but the rise began in teh 70's and peaked with crack cocaine. Blame Carter if you think it's the democrats.
>>18170268>the cause of the pandemic spike is pretty interesting.nogs chimping out because they thought saint floyd would get them out of jail, or are we really doing the 'mild-mannered accountants and engineers were so bored by the covid lockdowns they started mugging and murdering people' thing
>>18170003>limited availability of handguns compared to later decadesgot a source on that, because there were no federal laws restricting handguns in the 1950s>>18169974good economy, segregation and a bunch of would be retarded criminals had just died in WWII and Korea
>>18170271There was also the anti-Asian black crime spike.
>>18170268he's referring to the 1994 crime bill when he said>clinton buckbreakingbecause it targeted black drug dealers and repeat offenders and surprise surprise, when you put criminals in jail for 30 years over pot they can't murder
>>18170274I still think it's hilarious how that >stop asian hatelasted about a week between that one retard shooting up a bunch of asian whorehouses and then like the next week it came out that 99.999999999999% of interracial crimes against asians were done by blacks and no one ever mentioned asian hate again
>>18170224Don't think I remember him, but that's a good example of it.
>>18170274It was overall crime spike the whole asian stuff was just a diversion.
>>18170280didn't work for drug dealing not sure why you think it somehow lowered homicide rates
>>18170315the crime bill was a massive unmitigated success at reducing crime in everyway. turns out putting criminals in jail reduces crime, who would have thought.also the vast majority of murderers use drugs the only bad part about the 1994 crime bill was the awb. every other part of the bill was great, worked amazing and had zero downside
>>18170229Hoover deported illegals too. The 50's were just the last decade anyone (supreme commander allied forces) had the balls to do it and the cohesiveness of American people to carry out the task.
>>18170315>>18170326It just selected for the lowest intelligence/highest disregard for norms/lack of foresight to be arrested. Those people could also have been most likely to commit spontaneous murder uot of all drug dealers/users.Plus thats when gangsta rap started, imagine how many blacks got busted from listening to that shit.
Man you'd think the effects from winning "the war to end all wars" would last longer than a decade eh? The losers must have really had a shitty time.
>>18170003no, you could mail order guns back then, lol. all the way up to '68 : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_Control_Act_of_1968
So if the 50's were so great why did they create a unique decade of counter 50's manchildren?
>>18169974well the USA civil rights act was not passed until 1964 so before that..........
>>18169974You had a large part of the male population who had experienced real war against (almost) peer level nations and knew how fucking awful it actually is. They just wanted to settle down peacefully and breed, enjoying what they had fought for. Then the next generation took over...
>>18170326Not according to Steven Leavitt. Incarceration has diminishing returns.
>>18171083>Steven Leavitt.early life. he also advocates for carbon taxes because he hates white people>Incarceration has diminishing returns.it doesn't. mass incarceration has nothing but benefits and zero drawbacks. there are no evidence or data based arguments against mass incarceration or the nonawb pars of the 1994 crime bill
>>18170229>ellis island slumdogs got assimilated into something approaching humanityIf only that was true.
>>18171092He deals in nothing but data.
>>18171095>early life>carbon taxhe does not. mass incarceration works, mass incarceration doesn't harm any humans
Crime rates are usually directly correlated to economic prosperity. The 50s and 90s had a good economy and low crime, the 70s had a bad economy and high crime.
>>18170268>he was around at the end but the rise began in teh 70's and peaked with crack cocaineThe all-time peak of crime in the US was in 1973-83, by the early 90s crime rates overall had in fact gotten lower. They look higher than the actually were on the charts because of the crack wars but those mainly affected the inner cities and not suburban America.
>>18170060>came back to high-paying jobs since the workforce had been depletedthey doubled the work force with women's imposition on the labor market wtf
>>18169974Crime data for the 50s is a bit questionable because many police departments especially small town or rural ones tended to only keep written records for major crimes such as homicide while not bothering to record burglaries, assaults, public intoxication etc.
>>1817113370s was a paradise compared to today economically and yet now we have lower crime.
>>18171156>70s was a paradise compared to today economically
>>18169974There was a move in the 50s-60s to very soft justice practices as everyone had come to associate executions and mass imprisonment with totalitarian states.
>>18171107Argue with his data then.
>>18171162hes right, it was a shitshow compared to its era but it was still better than today
>>18171226I wouldn't call them very soft but yeah they were more scientific and reform minded. The US had also had a bunch of prison riots early in the 1950s.
>>18169974Organized crime is intrinsically linked to illegal immigration as it's usually the mob that's facilitating the illegal shipment and employment of people for their illegal companies or supplying them to other businesses within full knowledge of the IRS. Organized crime is also intrinsically linked to murder rates. So what you're seeing is the general prosperity created in the post war US was enough to satisfy not only the actual WASP citizens, but all the illegals being shipped into the US. Then immediately as civil rights (welfare and open borders) starts you see the murder rate skyrocket. The drug of choice was cocaine and this was coming fro mall the illegal aliens from latin america. In the 20's it was alcohol as mob run cities full of illegals ran illegal bars called speakeasies which funneled hundreds of millions of dollars into the mob and US party's pockets, so it's probably safe to say US political parties profited off of the trafficking of cocaine into the US as well. On top of this they profited off of all the illegals being shipped into the US during these periods
>>18170060>>18171146jobs were high paying since we bombed every factory in yurop and asia, something we should do again, and the (((global bankers))) responded by pushing for women to enter the workforce to lower wages>>18171237the data shows that mass incarceration lowered the murder rate by half, troon
>>18171162Even the post-COVID inflation bubble got to at most 8%. Things were completely dystopian back then.
>>18171258>Even the post-COVID inflation bubble got to at most 8%did they measure inflation the same? because the post coof inflation was intentionally measured wrong. bidenflation was probably closer to like 40% than 8%
a big difference between the 70s and today is that California was the promised land everyone wanted to live in while today everyone wants to get away from there as fast as they can
>>18171267California was never the promised land it was always a tourist trap full of retarded illegals dumped off by the trains and ships. The first thing they did was fill it full of irish illegals to mine gold
>>18171256The data also shows significant diminishing returns in crime reduction. It also shows that Italy's crime rate dropped by like 80% in the same time period even though they actually amnestied some prisoners.
The Rust Belt was kind of inevitably fucked once air conditioning arrived postwar and allowed the South to become habitable and have more than just an agrarian economy.
>>18169974cleaning up junk and abandoned buildings is credited with reducing crime as well as penalizing people who litter. it's generally taken that a clean-looking town will have less crime in it.
>>18171300you mean when the democrat socialists shut down all the factories for polluting
>>18171291>The data also shows significant diminishing returns in crime reduction.nope. the data shows it works super well and is based and good and has zero drawbacksliterally the only argument against mass incarceration is that we should feed prisoners less or not at all
>>18171300that's retarded. the rustbelt is a better location because it has access to major ports, rivers and rail lines.
>>18171308Then argue with his data. That's what shows diminishing returns.
>>18171315it doesn't. his data shows it worked super well and that there were no negatives and that we should be doing it again because the soft on crime shit caused crime to go up again. mass incarceration of black criminals works and works well. there is no data or evidence based argument against it
>>18171319Then why do his reports say otherwise?
>>18171320because both you and him are lying and because he is israeli so he's pro black on white crime
>>18171320His reports don't. His interpretation of his reports does because of his biases.
>>18171323His biases that led him to conclude that rising prison populations were part of what led to crime falling?
>>18171300^This. tf would you want to live in Buffalo or Cleveland for and get buried under snow every winter when you could be in Texas instead?
>>18171334so what you're saying is that northern imperial interests completely ignored environmental factors when building their huge state financed infrastructure projects
>>18170192there is no correlation between penalty and murder. So no lawyers had zero to do with it.
>>18170229wtf are you talking about. Are you proposing the country was more racist in the 1950s and than 1930s.....
>>18169974Segregation
>>18171526I forgot it's warm summers, lead pollution and socioeconomics. Giving slap on the wrist to obviously violent people who were escalating their behaviour was the right choice nobody could've predicted they will eventually kill.
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>>18170003Here is the actual reason, his is a retard board and will spam lead. This is a cancerous retard thread and just a rehashing of every meme reply imaginable.
>>18171092>because he hates white peopleI thought racism was a good thing according to you faggots though
>>18174394anti white racism is bad, you troon
>>18171274California was absolute paradise until at least the 1970s. Beautiful weather, sexy women, and jobs for the intelligent.
>>18175140everybody that's ever gone to california has been a bastard or a fool
>>18174012What is the reason for other non violent crime also following the trend, what about countries outside of the USA where gun crime didn't contribute significantly to their homicide rate?Your idea is incredibly weak, there were plenty of other conflicts explain why post WW2 crime drops off a cliff compared to prior decades?
>>18175231It was all the same everywhere.
>>18175234In some EU countries homicides peaked later, in France and Italy it was the mid and late 90's instead of early 90's like the US. In the UK and Australia it was the early 2000's but they all otherwise follow the general curve.Drug offences peak in the second half of the 2010's and then falling heavily with a rebound at the end of the 2010's that has now fallen off. too
>>18175124>...racism is bad...Based.
>>18175254It looks like the general time frame is pretty consistent, somewhere in the 1990s was the peak and the rates fell by like 30-50%. NTA BTW
>>18175234Hello and welcome to Russia in the 90s
>>18175799which is why only phasing out/banning leaded fuel makes sense as that is the main constant between western countries
>>18175898It's an idiotic reason that correlated with nothing but as you're retarded you'll buy it.
>>18171321Dilate
>>18175898Yeah it's hard to verify but it's a pretty consistently cited variable
>>18175946you're literally the tranny party, troon
>>18175140It wasn't bad all the way to the 2000s. The state was completely fucked by the late 00s recession and never recovered.
>>18175231>people still respond to mark
>>18176017Cope
>>18170003Cool it with haplophobia.
