How is Nordicist historiography so resilient?
>>18175399The "Racial Replacement" in Question:
>>18175399Because it’s true.
>>18175469>Greeks caused the Fall of Rome, which is why the Greek part survived for over 1000 years while the Germanic part fell
>>18175489Italy was a racial hodgepodge after the replacement of the Romans. Eastern part at least had that Greek core.And Greeks were unable to maintain the grandeur and might of Rome even in the East. Also they weren't just replaced with Greeks. We know for a fact lots of slaves were freed over the centuries, and they weren't all Greeks.
They work backwards picking and choosing based traits that they inherited from previous regional powers.
>>18175516>Italy was a racial hodgepodge after the replacement of the Romans>Greeks were unable to maintain the grandeur and might of Rome even in the EastGreeks were the original Romans, lol. Ancient Roman’s from the early Iron Age were mostly R1b-z2103 and J2b2-l283, genes not associated with Villanova or Bell Beakers. Bell Beaker R1b-U152 genes emerge a few hundred years after in the Middle Iron Age around 400 BCE and that event is known as the Invasion of Brennus. The Patrician clans, who claimed descend from Trojan (Greek) elites, still managed to remain in control, so they were not Bell Beakers.>We know for a fact lots of slaves were freed over the centuries, and they weren't all GreeksCope. Most of Rome's slaves were native Italians and other Europeans.>Roman slavery was not based on race. Slaves were drawn from all over Europe and the Mediterranean, including Gaul, Hispania, Germany, Britannia, the Balkans, Greece etc. Generally slaves in Italy were indigenous Italians, with a minority of foreigners (including both slaves and freedmen) born outside of Italy estimated at 5% of the total in the capital, where their number was largest, at its peak. Those from outside of Europe were predominantly of Greek descent, while the Jewish ones never fully assimilated into Roman society, remaining an identifiable minority. The slaves (especially the foreigners) had higher mortality rates and lower birth rates than natives, and were sometimes even subjected to mass expulsions. The average recorded age at death for the slaves of the city of Rome was extraordinarily low: seventeen and a half years (17.2 for males; 17.9 for females). By comparison, life expectancy at birth for the population as a whole was in the mid-twenties (36% percent of men could expect to reach the age of 62 and 27% of women if they succeeded in reaching the age of 10)
>>18175527>The overall impact of slavery on the Italian genetics was insignificant though, because the slaves imported in Italy were native Europeans, and very few if any of them had extra European origin. This has been further confirmed by recent biochemical analysis of 166 skeletons from three non-elite imperial-era cemeteries in the vicinity of Rome (where the bulk of the slaves lived), which shows that only 1 individual definitely came from outside of Europe (North Africa), and another 2 possibly did, but results are inconclusive. n the rest of the Italian peninsula, the amount of non European slaves was definitively much lower than that
>>18175527>>18175528This is how the Romans described the Bell Beaker-derived people Etruscans: >Etruscan children live the way their parents live, often attending drinking parties and having sexual relations with all the women. It is no disgrace for them to do anything in the open, or to be seen having it done to them, for they consider it a native custom.>When they are having sexual relations either with courtesans or within their family, they do as follows: after they have stopped drinking and are about to go to bed, while the lamps are still lit, servants bring in courtesans, or slave girls, or sometimes even their wives. And when they have enjoyed these they bring in little girls, and make love to them.>They are keen on making love to women, but they particularly enjoy little girls and teenagers. The teenagers in Etruria are very good-looking, because they live in luxury and keep their bodies smooth. In fact all the barbarians in the West use pitch to pull out and shave off the hair on their bodies.Theopompus of Chios, 4th cent. BCE Histories Book 43
>>18175533Im gonna COOOOOOOOOOOOOOM
Have you guys ever wondered if like maybe culture isn't actually genetic?
>>18175543No because that would be stupid. Lions have lion culture and wolves have wolf culture and beavers have beaver culture
>>18175543histards don't wonder, they take at face value anything that will patch up their insecurities
>>18175527>Ancient Roman’s from the early Iron Age were mostly R1b-z2103*R1b-L23>Four out of five sampled Latins show Yamnaya-derived R1b-L23 lineages, including three R1b-U152 subclades, and one hg. R1b-Z2103 (in line with the variability found among East Bell Beakers), while one from Ardea shows hg. T1a-L208. A likely Volscian (i.e. Osco-Umbrian-speaking) sample from Boville Ernica also shows hg. R1b-Z2118*, an ‘archaic’ subclade within the P312 tree. These R1b-L23 subclades are also found later during the Imperial period, although in lesser proportion compared to East Mediterranean ones
>>18175543Define culture
Frank has been 'boonked by Italian blogger patriots from 2011https://italiantro.blogspot.com/2011/01/tenney-franks-orientalization-refuted.html?m=1
>>18175399Becoming non white is always the reason. Plato knew it, and everyone who isn't willfully delusional knows it as well.
>>18175399There's nothing resilient since the early romans were more shifted toward spain, not the nordic cuckshed
>>18175642Plato was a 20% steppe swarthoid
>>18175642>Plato describes that Atlanteans fell because their morality and ancestrality were more divine than human (which makes sense since the original Atlanteans were descendants of Atlas's children with human women), but they became more human>wignats think this is somehow an analogy for the mixing of whites and non-whitesThe story of Atlantis was told to Plato by his uncle Critias, who learned it from his grandfather Critias II, who heard it from his cousin Solon, who heard it from the priest Sonchis of Sais. Sonchis, a priest in the temple of Neith, told Solon the tale of a powerful civilization called Atlantis, which was later recorded by Plato in his dialogues Timaeus and Critias. Sonchis told him Sais and Athens share common origin. The chiefly deity of Sais was Neith who, according to Plato, was Athena and she came from Libya. The Persians conquered Egypt after the 26th dynasty and destroyed and looted everything in Sais. Neith was the same as Tanit, the Carthaginian goddess who was venerated all over North Africa. This could mean the Atlantis story, if the Solon tale is true, was imported from the West by the Libyans.>The Twenty-Sixth Dynasty of Egypt, also known as the Saite dynasty after Sais, reigned from 672 to 525 BC and consisted of six pharaohs. Libyans and Persians alternated in rule with the native Egyptians, but traditional conventions continued in the artsAlso, Robert’s father Ben-Hur Sepehr is a Jewish-Iranian film maker who has made several films about the Holocaust. One of the films is entitled ‘The Desperate’. What I find odd is that Robert Sepehr is listed as an executive producer in the credits, and on IMDB he is listed as an associate producer of the film.https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1523347/fullcredits
>>18175684>this is an analogy for the mixing of whites and non-whitesCorrect, and if you weren't being willfully stupid about it to conform to poisonous ideas of blindness being a virtue then it would be obvious to you as well.
>>18175688We Wuz Gods N' Shiet.Aphrodite>Δια (Dia: heavenly/divine/noble)>"Nor will I marry a daughter of Atreus' son, Agamemnon, not if she challenged Aphrodite the Χρυσεη (khryseê: golden) for loveliness...">- The Iliad, Book 9, Line 388Athena>γλαυκώπις (glauk-opis: grey/blue-eyed, owl-eyed)>ἠϋκόμοιο (eukomoio, eukomos: lovely-haired). Every reference to her hair in the Iliad uses this term (Book 6, Lines 92, 273, 303)Apollo>Χρυσοκόμας (khrusokomas: golden-haired)Artemis>Χρυσεοβόστρυχας (khruseovostrychos: golden-locked/curl)>- Euripedes, Phoenissae, Line 191Briseis>Lovely-haired (ήΰκομος, eukomos)Calypso>ευπλοκαμος (euplokamos: well-tressed/braided)Demeter>ξανθή (xanthe: dark-blond/auburn/tawny/fawn/light brunet)>- Homeric Hymn 2, To Demeter, Line 302Dionysus>χρυσόςκόμη (Khrusokome: golden-haired)>- Hesiod, Theogeny 947>"Beautiful were the locks of hair as they waved in the breeze surrounding him. They were the colour of κυάνεαι (kuaneai: dark/black/blue-black).">- Homeric Hymn 7 to Dionysus, Line 4>"...and the withes fell far away from his hands and feet: and he sat with a smile in his κυανέοισι (kuaneoisi: dark/black/blue-black) eyes.">- Homeric Hymn 7 to Dionysus, Line 15>Gold hair (Hesiod) and dark/blue-black hair and eyes (Homeric Hymn)!Euadne>ίόπλοκον (ioplokon: violet) haired>- Pindar, Olympian 6.30Graces>ήϋκομοι (eukomoi, eukomos: lovely-haired)>- Pindar, PythianHades>κυανοχαΐτα (kuanochaita: dark/black/blue-black)>- Homeric Hymn 2, To Demeter, Line 347
>>18175694Hektor>"...and on either side his κυάνεαι (kuaneai: dark/black/blue-black) hair flowed outspread, and all in the dust lay the head that was before so χαρίεν (kharien: graceful)>- The Iliad, Book 22, Line 401Herakles>ξανθούς (xanthous: dark-blond/auburn/tawny/fawn/light brunet)>- Euripedes, Herakles, Line 233Hera>Ox-eyed (βοώπισ πότνια, boopis potnia)>"Hera was smiling with her lips, but above the κυανέησιν (kuanehisin: dark/black/blue-black) brows her forehead was not at peace.">- The Iliad, Book 15, Line 101>"She plaited the καλός (kalos: lovely/virtuous/noble) ambrosial locks that flowed in a stream of φαεινος (phaeinos: benevolent) tresses from her immortal head.">- The Iliad, Book 14, Line 175>"Even as the lord of ήυκόμοιο (eukomoio, eukomos: lovely-haired) Hera lighteneth, what time he maketh ready...">- The Iliad, Book 10, Line 5>"All-powerful Hera drove these daughters in fear from the lovely halls... while still virgins, they entered the sanctuary of the purple-belted goddess, and said that their father far surpassed in wealth the ξανθᾶς (xanthas: dark-blond/auburn/tawny/fawn/light brunet) consort of holy, widely powerful Zeus.'>- Bacchylides, Epinicians, 11Helen>λευκώλενος (leukolenos: white-armed), τανύπεπλος (tanypeplos: long-dressed), καλλίκομος (kallikomos: beautiful-haired)>"...goodly Alexander, lord of ἠϋκόμοιο (eukomoio, eukomos: lovely-haired) Helen...">- The Iliad, Book 7, Line 355>Sappho refers to Helen as xanthe (dark-blond/auburn/tawny/fawn/light brunet)>"But Helen raised no lamentation: shame sat on her κυανέοισιν (kuaneoisin: dark/black/blue-black) eyes, and cast its flush over her lovely cheeks.">- Quintus Smyrnaeus, The Fall of Troy, Book 14, Line 40>ξανθαὶ κόμαι (xanthai komai: dark-blond/auburn/tawny/fawn/light brunet)>- Euripides, Iphigenia in Aulis, Line 681
>>18175696Menelaos>His most defining epithet: ξανθός (Xanthos: dark-blond/auburn/tawny/fawn/light brunet) MenelaosMeleager>ξανθός (xanthos)>- The Iliad, Book 2, Line 642Muses>Ιόπλοκον (Ioplokon: violet) hairOdysseus>ξανθάς (Xanthas: dark-blond/auburn/tawny/fawn/light brunet) hair>- Odyssey, Book 13, Line 399>κυάνεαι (kuaneai: dark/black/blue-black) beard>- Odyssey, Book 16, Line 175>μελαγχροιής (Melagrupos: black skin)>- Odyssey, Books 16, Line 175>Both the beard and complexion were restored to him by Athena, as she had given him back his youthOrestes>"On the alter itself I saw a black-fleeced ram as an offering, and there was blood, not long poured out, and severed locks of ξανθής (xanthos: dark-blond/auburn/tawny/fawn/light brunet) hair. And I wondered, child, who ever dared come to the tomb; for it was no Argive at the least.">- Old Man to Elektra, Euripedes' Elektra, Line 515>Argives can't be xanthos?Poseidon>"I have a certain message for you, dark-haired (κυανοχαΐτα, kuanochaita, dark/black/blue-black), earth-encircler, and came here to bring it to you from Zeus of the Aegis.">- Iris to Poseidon, The Iliad, Book Fifteen, Line 174>"On the other side glorious Hektor ordered the Trojans, and now Poseidon of the dark hair (κυανοχαΐτα, kuanochaita, dark/black/blue-black) and glorious Hektor strained to its deadliest the division of battle...">- The Iliad, Book 14, Line 388Rhadamanthys>xanthosTheseus>μελαν (melan: dark/black) eyes>- Bacchylides, Ode 17, Line 16Thetis>καλλιπλοκάμώ (Kalliplokamo: well-cared for locks)>- The Iliad, Book 18, Line 16Zeus>κυανέησιν (kuanehisin: dark/black/blue-black) eyebrows>- The Iliad, Book 1, Line 528 and Book 17, Line 209
>>18175669They must think Plato had more Steppe than Logkas (40%, which was fucking Proto-Greek), lol.https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2023.06.05.543790v1
>>18175694>We Wuz Gods N' Shiet.Descendants of "gods" to be more precise, and yes that is what "white" people are.
>>18175704Yes, that's why whites worshipped Yahweh. Jews are white o algo.
>>18175711Worship isnt an original aspect of greek, Norse, or Christian religious practices. Worship is correct in Islam, and old jew religion is about following their Law.
>>18175701>muh random whores in a cave with no greek materials where proto greek o algodesperate. You lost.Even Davidski said athenians are pretty much mycenean and cyprian. The cope we're gonna see when that study comes out is gonna be off the charts
>>18175711You don't have to sign your posts.
>>18175413>count: 20lol
because there are a lot of pathetic whites who want to steal the history of others and live vicariously through it
>>18175533My based coomer ancestors ;)T. R1B u152
>>18175724They already have the cope. The Anatolian cope. That is, only the Mycenaeans were really Aryan Greeks, and ceased to be Greek and became "Anatolian-Levantines" through gaining CHG and small amounts of Levant_PPN by mixing with the hellenized Lydians, Carians, Lycians, Phyrgians, and Luwians. Yes it is dishonest and dumb, and would mean practically all Greek philosophers and scientists weren't Greek by that definition, and even the "white" Mycenaeans were closer in FST and clustering to modern Syrian Arabs than Germanic whites anyway. But this is the cope it looks like they have decided to run with.
