"Zeus is God the Father, the Perfect Mind, the Monad and Christ is his Son, the (good) Demiurge, the Logos."Origen single-handed btfo anti-pagan christians, anti-christian pagans and maldeist gnostics.
>>18176035Origen is definitely fascinating. He also believed in reincarnation and universal salvation.
>>18176044I wonder how reincarnation and universal salvation works for a christian. I learn about Buddhist teachings reached the Roman Empire, so perhaps many christians were influenced by them.But I don't see how their theology would make sense with those concepts.
>>18176035Based. Greeks invented christianity.
>>18176035He also literally castrated himself on account of Matthew 19:12>For there are some eunuchs, which were so born from their mother's womb: and there are some eunuchs, which were made eunuchs of men: and there be eunuchs, which have made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven's sake. He that is able to receive it, let him receive it.What a deranged troon religion.
>>18176076That claim may have just been slander against him that got repeated.https://medievalhistorygeek.wordpress.com/2014/02/09/did-origen-castrate-himself/>In looking at Origen’s self-distesticulation, which was certainly a no-no for Christians, especially for priests who were expected to be free of blemishes, the discussion has to center upon the possibility that this was an invention of his critics, particularly Demetrius. Eusebius specifically attributes the story getting out to the Alexandrian Bishop who, as he was nearing death, seems to have developed a hatred of Origen.>The problem is, Origen constantly cautions people not to read scriptures literally. He states, many times, that the Bible (he’s also the first person I recall to say the Bible should be considered a single book, not a collection) includes figurative and spiritual, as well as literal, meanings.>In On Prayer, XX.1, Origen writes: "Let us suppose there is a difference between church and synagogue. In its proper sense the church has no spot or wrinkle or any such thing, but is holy and blameless. Into it enters no bastard or eunuch or one castrated …" On prayer was written after Origen had moved to Caesarea. Unlike much of his material, the entire work survives in Greek, meaning it was not changed by Rufinus. Would Origen, by this time certainly aware of Demetrius’ accusation, have written about this and drawn attention to it if he himself had violated this prohibition on castrated people entering the Church?
>>18176035>>18176059I've been thinking about this: what are the chances that the various gospels and books of the New Testament actually came from separate Jesus cults, each led by what would later be named an apostle, and were later collected and united under one common church because of the political necessity for religious centralization?
>>18176035what about the Devil that Jesus clearly spoke of on multiple occasions?
>>18176317The apostles were not important doctrinal, if they existed in some form or another they would have preached that Jesus was the Messiah, like the followers of John the baptist did. They would have lived or preached separate from the Roman Jewish communities. It is only after Paul comes that there is some form of proto-doctrinal unity and theology. >>18176332In early Christianity the devil was not as important or a great antagonizer of God within the world, rather what was emphasized particularly in the Revelation is Jesus eliminating death in the end. Satan, the antichrist and the Apocalypse certainly are imaginative and come from a very creative person and seem to be like a mix of the myth of the Titanomachy mixed with Jewish apocalyptic literature. In the Revelation it is particularly stressed that Rome is the whore of Babylon and Nero is the anti-Christ, so any secular power persecuting Christians could be identified as that.
>>18176378>In early Christianity the devil was not as importantHalf of Jesus miracles are exorcising demons. Mary Magdalene had 7 exorcisms performed on her. What does Origen say on that?
>>18176174There was no slander. Castration was typical of early Christians.Your blog post starts off with outright falsehood: there was no Christian prohibition against castration in the beginning. That only came much later after the legalization of Christianity in Rome when the religion began to be sanitized of its BLM/tranny movement proclivities in order to make it more acceptable to normal people.
>>18176386Demons, not Satan. Demon is basically a term for enemy gods, harmful spirits and entities that inhabit the underworld. Demons as an enemy force of the "good" group of gods have existed since Sumerian times, or demons commanded by some gods like Inanna. The term demon would have been even more complicated by the ancient Greek word of "daemon" which just means inner spirit or "genius". Where the Devil (Diabolos) does appear in the New Testament is with the temptation of Jesus in the desert and in the Gospel of John calls him "Prince of this world" and having no power over him. So clearly a powerful but not equal antagonist.
>>18176076No evidence of this, he surely would've mentioned it himself. Clearly he was so pious it was as though he was castrated
>>18176425>But when the Pharisees heard it, they said, This fellow doth not cast out devils, but by Beelzebub the prince of the devils.25 And Jesus knew their thoughts, and said unto them, Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation; and every city or house divided against itself shall not stand:26 And if Satan cast out Satan, he is divided against himself; how shall then his kingdom stand?you are making stuff up to suit your fantasy
>>18176416>Castration was typical of early Christians.Source?
>>18176442Satan already existed in Ezekiel and in the Old Testament, much of the story and terminology of Revelation and many terms in the New Testament are taken from there:>"Thus says the Lord GOD, "You had the seal of perfection, Full of wisdom and perfect in beauty. 13 "You were in Eden, the garden of God; Every precious stone was your covering: The ruby, the topaz, and the diamond; The beryl, the onyx, and the jasper; The lapis lazuli, the turquoise, and the emerald; And the gold, the workmanship of your settings and sockets, Was in you. On the day that you were created They were prepared. 14 "You were the anointed cherub who covers, And I placed you there. You were on the holy mountain of God; You walked in the midst of the stones of fire. 15 "You were blameless in your ways From the day you were created, Until unrighteousness was found in you. 16 "By the abundance of your trade You were internally filled with violence, And you sinned; Therefore I have cast you as profane From the mountain of God. And I have destroyed you, O covering cherub, From the midst of the stones of fire. 17 "Your heart was lifted up because of your beauty; You corrupted your wisdom by reason of your splendor. I cast you to the ground; I put you before kings, That they may see you." (Ezekiel 28:12-17)Satan and Devil in Christianity are used interchangeably but it is ambiguous in the OT especially in Job if it is the Serpent of the garden or Satan is a term for an Angel of God that is commanded to test Job.
>>18176055If we go by the Orphics, you reincarnated until you got it right by finding transcendence and finally escaped the suffering of the material form and God's kindness was in giving you the tools and guidance to figure out the right path.
>>18176443Example:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valesians>The Valesians were a Christian sect that advocated self-castration.>They were notorious for forcibly castrating travelers whom they encountered and guests who visited them.[2]>They are known chiefly from the Panarion of Epiphanius of Salamis, which describes how disciples of the sect were not allowed to eat meat until they had been castrated, because those who are not castrated might be tempted to lust by eating certain foods.We also have the testimony of Justin Martyr on the matter who described the attempt of a fellow Christian to be castrated but failed because it was against Roman law. Strangely, he doesn't refer to this attempt critically, rather he uses it in the "defense" of Christianity in order to "prove" Christians weren't perverts involved in illicit sexual activities.
>Self castratesWhat did his bulls ever do to offend him?
>>18176378>>18176378>the Revelation it is particularly stressed that Rome is the whore of BabylonWhile Nero indeed is the Antichrist, the Whore of Babylon is actually apostate Jerusalem, prostitute being an often used term in the OT for Israel's faithlessness, for example, Hosea 4:12: "For the spirit of harlotry has caused them to stray, and they have played the harlot against their God."The confusion arises because the Whore rides upon the Beast (Rome), but text explicitly separates the two:>Then the angel said to me: “Why are you astonished? I will explain to you the mystery of the woman and of the beast she rides, which has the seven heads and ten horns... This calls for a mind with wisdom. The seven heads are seven hills on which the woman sits [i.e., Rome]...The beast and the ten horns you saw will hate the prostitute. They will bring her to ruin and leave her naked; they will eat her flesh and burn her with fire.The Beast destroys the Whore. Rome wasn't destroyed in the 1st century, but Jerusalem definitely was.
>>18176486>>18176076That verse from the bible does sure leaves the door open to cut off your own cock and balls for jesus.If you dont know any better, youre mentally ill, or naive, you might do it.Truly sickening disgusting cult who hides behind "love" and ends up with cutting your own cock and balls because sex is bad mmkay?
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>self castrationAll the non white who love God and want to participate in the mission to save the people of God from death should self castrate. Do it for the sake of the heavenly kingdom, as Jesus put it.
>>18176055Because you take Christianity from a superficial, literalist and material perspective. To which even most Christians do not do. Just as the Buddha is not the Tao, and the Tao is not a man.. so, too, the natures of Christ and The Father.
>>18176593I know for a certifiable fact you're that delulu tranny from Australia who spams this site and reddit all the time, so you really have no place making such accusations.
>>18176035> Zeus is God the FatherSomehow I always knew this based on how he’s portrayed in Christian art.
Origen didn't believe in reincarnation, just the pre existence of souls.
>>18176055You make your own hell. Your negative thoughts cause you to reincarnate into a negative life. This lasts "forever" or at least until you align your thoughts with higher and higher goods until you reach the highest good and guess who you reincarnate as then?
