>>216952028Did the ussr puprosefully fuck up ethnic borders within the ssr's out of spite so that if it collapsed it would cause conflict?
they did it because ethnic enclaves don't matter if they're all subject to one federal government in the end"muh trick borders to force us to fight each other" is cope peddled by people who wanted to fight anyway
It was more because the Turkish government intervened with stalin to make more territories be part of Azerbaijan and for Stalin it was just a few useless provinces so he didn’t care.
They didn't fuck up "ethnic borders". In fact they were basically anti-White woke Communists, who endlessly agitated against the equivalent of what modern Communists would call "racism". They always took the side of whoever they perceived as oppressed and usually gave them a generous amount of land and encouraged them to define themselves ethnically. They made White Russia bigger than it usually was. They gave Ukraine Crimea and reversed decades of Russification and even reprimanded Ukrainian Communists, who misinterpreted their orders and wanted to russify Ukraine. So it's really no surprise that the USSR took the side of a Turkic people against a White-adjacent, historically very Christian state and gave them as little territory as possible.
>>18177069Turkics are the white-adjacent population in this case. I don't know why you zoomer mutts keep conflating Christians in every conflict to your side. Nazis made it abundantly clear that Turks are their kin. Caucasians are "lesser whites", and Middle Easterners like Armenians are racial enemies. The drawing of these borders had nothing to do with wokeism or whatever American tranny hysteria you're on. It had everything to do with creating future problems and giving a Russian rump state more opportunities to have some control over the region.
>>18177129I fully expected people to call me a Turk. The fact that you are this offended on the behalf of Turks, makes me think you are brown. The ridiculous idea that Middle Eastern Christians are somehow White, because they are Christian, is as ridiculous as the idea that Turks are White. That's also a complete misunderstanding of what Nazis thought. They didn't think Turks were White. They meant the steppe nomadic Aryan people they are descended from. Not Turk Turks.> The drawing of these borders had nothing to do with wokeismIt was the version of woke back then. The Commies constantly talked about opposing national chauvinism. It's very clear what they meant by that. They didn't want Russian Nationalism to be a unifying factor in the USSR. They encouraged Separatism. They even forced Bulgaria to participate in the absolute LARP that is the Macedonian meme-ethnicity and forced them to give away their territory for a new Macedonian Communist state, but because Yugoslavia distanced themselves from the USSR that never ended up happening. It almost did.
>>18176969Most Armenians came after the establishing of the republics borders. Azerbaijan benefitted by being given special attention by Stalin as they were specifically conquered. Stalin saw every census and came to the correct consensus that the Azeris were far more populous and spreadout than the Armenians, Armenian colonists doesnt change the reality that the southern Caucuses was never the Armenian homeland as Anatolia was.
>>18177129Why flimsily force yourself into believing you belong to a foreigner's race when even if it were true (it isn't), you would still be categorized at the literal bottom of the White totem poll and never be accepted into their party regardless? It's a really pathetic and self-loathing way to be and you know it.
>>18177149The South Caucasus was Armenian but the Safavid and ottoman deportations, depopulation and qizilbash settlement caused many of the provinces to be turkified by the time the Russians arrived in the 1820. Most of what is Azerbaijani too was inhabited by Iranian speaking people who were turkified by the Turkish Shia settlement of the 1500s
>>18176969Why didn't they just transfer the Armenians from Artsakh and the Azeris from Nakhchivan? It's not like the Soviets don't have a track record of forcefully relocating entire ethnic groups.
>>18177145I never called you a Turk. And it's not a complete misunderstanding. Contemporary Islamophobia, immigration hysteria, and insecurity aside, the "turk turks" as you call them were Hitler's favorite soldiers.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azerbaijani_SS_volunteer_formations>It was the version of woke back then. No, it was not. Soviets never sat down and said "well the turks are heckin counter cultchya muslims so they can have this land..". That's just something you made up in your head.
